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[Orthor91]

Personally. I'll wait for more information, but what I'm hoping is that it doesn't take away any dialogue and missions and just adds to an invisible "readiness level" that must reach a certain level to get the optimal ending.
*MAYBE KINDA SPOILERS FOR ME 2*
Kinda like the hold the line section of the final mission in mass effect two. you need a certain invisible defense score along with loyalty to pass without killing someone. By itself leaving people like grunt tends to do it, but when you also got the merc through dlc, You were a whole hell of a lot more likely to be fine. if its something in the background like that defense score, I'm good.

[xSTONEYx187x]

TobyHasEyes wrote...

masterkajo wrote...

xSTONEYx187x wrote...

xSTONEYx187x wrote...

Another question, would it make sense to play the co-op before jumping straight into the SP campaign? How else would you up your "Galactic Readiness"? Play a bit of SP, when you reach a certain point, jump into MP?

I'm confused? :S

Anyone got any input regarding this? 

Really interested in this especially concerning spoilers about SP. Since MP apparently lets you experience big battles from SP from a different point of view and influence SP it would only make sense if you play them parallel to the SP.
But what if you choose to play it beforehand?`Won't this spoil some big battles for SP?

 Also makes you wonder if you do really great, immense success in co-op, but pretty poor SP, does it even out?

 Would love more detail as it seems a strange system to me.. co-op can make an impact, but don't worry you won't miss the impact if you don't play the co-op

I really can't wrap my head around how they will get it to work. 

Let's say in the I'm on Sur'Kesh with Shep and his crew, doing a mission, rescuing the Krogan female, and their is an option to help out MP wise, do I quit and then play the co-op, do whatever you have do do, then reload my SP campaign? 

This really needs to be addressed, hopefully we hear something soon. 

[mauro2222]

aquamutt wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

aquamutt wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

So... If I not play Co-op, I miss content?

your going to miss out on content no matter what you do every choice you make does this

Well, one thing is choosing a different path inside the singleplayer experience, the other is missing content for not playing a complete and different gameplay or gametype.

dlc does somthin similar yet the majority is fine with it and it's optional mp anyway

I see your point, but what I need to know is that if, for example, one mission involves saving someone that then appears in the singleplayer. That is missing content.

Modifié par mauro2222, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:15 .

[Geth_Prime]

@Dragonloordz That is fair enough, but it came across as a little ungracious. I based that info on what BioWare have already said.

http://masseffectclu...ature-262865365

Take a look at this, if you like.

(By the way, my apologies to all for being unable to quote or use working links, I am currently using a mobile device.)

[Geth_Prime]

@Orthor91

http://masseffectclu...ature-262865365

Read this if you like, I think the "invisible level" thing is what BW are doing.

[someguy1231]

Mark my words: when ME3 is released, every slightest bug, flaw, or shortcoming that MP-haters perceive in the game will be blamed on the decision to include multiplayer. Nevermind that there are countless low-quality games with no multiplayer. Nevermind that there have been plenty of games that were originally SP only and successfully made the jump to MP (Uncharted 2, Portal 2, AC Brotherhood). Nevermind that DA2 was a disappointment but had no multiplayer. Nevermind that more developers on a game does not automatically result in a better game. Nope, from now on, any problems in ME3 are solely the result of including multiplayer. <_<

Modifié par someguy1231, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:13 .

[Kidd]

Marionetten wrote...

Yes. Multiplayer having any effect whatsoever on singleplayer is an unacceptable development to me. For me it's more about the principles and making a stance against this kind of development.

That just sounds so incredibly drama queen no matter how I try reading it. Could you please try to explain it further? I mean, if you don't like your multiplayer influencing your single player, then don't play it. Before this announcement you were going to finish your single player campaign without any multiplayer on the side anyway, right?

I would totally understand your point if they required people to play multiplayer or gave unique single player content to those who do so, but from what it sounds like it's more akin to skipping loyalty missions - if you want to. Even if you were to play the multiplayer, I'm sure they won't remove the ability to play all the missions from your game.

What exactly is changed about your game experience by the addition of this new feature, which was developed by another set of developers who wouldn't otherwise have touched ME3 anyway? Personally I applaud BioWare on what sounds to be like a great new feature. Had not expected to be this pleasantly surprised going into this thread! ^^

[Geth_Prime]

@someguy1231 Well said, my friend. Calling this community harsh is an understatement.

[Dragoonlordz]

Geth_Prime wrote...

@Dragonloordz That is fair enough, but it came across as a little ungracious. I based that info on what BioWare have already said.

http://masseffectclu...ature-262865365

Take a look at this, if you like.

(By the way, my apologies to all for being unable to quote or use working links, I am currently using a mobile device.)

Yes I already read that which is the first post in the thread. Sorry if seems ungracious, I am just more direct and to point type of person without pleasantries as personal habit. The initial post in the thread and therefore that link which says the same thing unfortuantly does not give me the answers I am specifically asking for and is far to open to interpretation than I deem viable to gain my answers.

[tariq071]

Camronnba wrote...

Will be cancelling my pre-order on my way home from work. Might still buy it but will not spend 60 dollars on it. I was once so hyped about ME3 and now I can happily wait till the game is 20 bucks to play it

Same here, with exception that after DA II i didn't trust them enough to pre-order anything(as it appears rightly so),but i was ready to pay full price on release date.

Since i don't give a dime for co-op or MP in any game(actually i deplore that type of gaming), i have no intention of supporting that idea whatsoever and will wait for heavy discount, and only if i am not forced to play co-op or MP dump in order "to affect" SP campaign.

What ever happened with "we learned from our mistakes with DA II"?

When they stop making games the way their accountants want them , then i will think about it.

Modifié par tariq071, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:17 .

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

Amaterasuomikami wrote...
Well, yes. If there is a mode in any game that you do not play, you are missing content. But I think you're confusing the singleplayer content with co-op. There are two different teams working on this, so I doubt Bioware decided to cut some singleplayer content out and stick it in co-op. You're not losing content, just deciding not to play an optional extra.

You doubt it, I don't.
Plus money and time have been spent on these, when they could have been spend on single player.

[Rovay]

Marionetten wrote...

Rovay wrote...

Just wondering... You have read the next parts of his post and understood them, right?

Yes. Multiplayer having any effect whatsoever on singleplayer is an unacceptable development to me. For me it's more about the principles and making a stance against this kind of development.

Oh, fine then. Personaly I find this kind of a stance a bit weird, but I can see where you're coming from. Have fun playing other games then.

[dreman9999]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Geth_Prime wrote...

@Dragonloordz That is fair enough, but it came across as a little ungracious. I based that info on what BioWare have already said.

http://masseffectclu...ature-262865365

Take a look at this, if you like.

(By the way, my apologies to all for being unable to quote or use working links, I am currently using a mobile device.)

Yes I already read that which is the first post in the thread. Sorry if seems ungracious, I am just more direct and to point type of person without pleasantries as personal habit. The initial post in the thread and therefore that link which says the same thing unfortuantly does not give me the answers I am specifically asking for and is far to open to interpretation than I deem viable to gain my answers.

The anwser you want are major detail to the game it self. It's more of a wait and watch salution. As much as you  say not enough is said to say hpw the mp is, to assume the worst has no grounds.

[roflchoppaz]

Playing MP gives you something of a boost to your playthrough, it does nothing but boost that "galaxy readiness' meter thing. You can max it out even without MP if you played all the cards right.

Why don't you get it, dudes? You lose nothing, they gain nothing. It's gonna be the same ending. It's equal.

[RGC_Ines]

As long as Shepard/companions/SP NPCs lives and mission don't depend on the fact if I played MP or not Im fine with it. But for sure I will be furious if someone in my SP game will die, or I will lost some races, planets or chance for winning a battle etc only becouse I dislike MP.

[Tamahome560]

roflchoppaz wrote...

Playing MP gives you something of a boost to your playthrough, it does nothing but boost that "galaxy readiness' meter thing. You can max it out even without MP if you played all the cards right.

Why don't you get it, dudes? You lose nothing, they gain nothing. It's gonna be the same ending. It's equal.

*hits rofl* Punchies!

Modifié par Tamahome560, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:23 .

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

roflchoppaz wrote...

Playing MP gives you something of a boost to your playthrough, it does nothing but boost that "galaxy readiness' meter thing. You can max it out even without MP if you played all the cards right.

Why don't you get it, dudes? You lose nothing, they gain nothing. It's gonna be the same ending. It's equal.

We lose single player missions which could have been done with the time/money.

[Dragoonlordz]

dreman9999 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Geth_Prime wrote...

@Dragonloordz That is fair enough, but it came across as a little ungracious. I based that info on what BioWare have already said.

http://masseffectclu...ature-262865365

Take a look at this, if you like.

(By the way, my apologies to all for being unable to quote or use working links, I am currently using a mobile device.)

Yes I already read that which is the first post in the thread. Sorry if seems ungracious, I am just more direct and to point type of person without pleasantries as personal habit. The initial post in the thread and therefore that link which says the same thing unfortuantly does not give me the answers I am specifically asking for and is far to open to interpretation than I deem viable to gain my answers.

The anwser you want are major detail to the game it self. It's more of a wait and watch salution. As much as you  say not enough is said to say hpw the mp is, to assume the worst has no grounds.

It is not assuming at all, neither the worst or as others are doing the best either. It's merely saying I am waiting for actual facts regarding what I am asking, not relying on other peoples interpretation or reading between the lines of what so far has been said. The details are what matters.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Rovay wrote...

Marionetten wrote...

Rovay wrote...

Just wondering... You have read the next parts of his post and understood them, right?

Yes. Multiplayer having any effect whatsoever on singleplayer is an unacceptable development to me. For me it's more about the principles and making a stance against this kind of development.

Oh, fine then. Personaly I find this kind of a stance a bit weird, but I can see where you're coming from. Have fun playing other games then.

I agree with Marionetten.  This grubbing compulsion to cram MP into every game possible so that they can drag in the casual gaming crowd isn't doing anything good for the actual quality of the games.  Personally, I like to avoid the stereotypical dudebro middle-school / frat-house HALO gamers.

What the hell is wrong with having a game that doesn't involve playing with other people? 

[roflchoppaz]

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

roflchoppaz wrote...

Playing MP gives you something of a boost to your playthrough, it does nothing but boost that "galaxy readiness' meter thing. You can max it out even without MP if you played all the cards right.

Why don't you get it, dudes? You lose nothing, they gain nothing. It's gonna be the same ending. It's equal.

We lose single player missions which could have been done with the time/money.

It's all just points. I'm pretty sure the game progression won't be GR meter-tied. It'll be mission complete-tied instead.
Like the Plot missions in ME2.

Time, sure, but isn't that the point of games? Waste time?

[Giantdeathrobot]

Multiplayer is being developped by Bioware Montréal, NOT Bioware Edmonton who is the ''proper'' Bioware, untainted by the blight of being able, just able, to have fun with others *shudders*. It is more than likely that additional ressources have been unlocked to do this, and why the game was delayed in the first place (that's how the industry works). So, it is highly improbable that content was somehow ''stripped'' from the main campaign to go into the co-op.

I mean, I understand the concern, but basic research shows that said concern is probably not founded (we can't be sure until the game hits, of course).

And yes, I agree that any and all faults will be blamed on multiplayer immediately by these forums. Bah.

[Maslab]

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

roflchoppaz wrote...

Playing MP gives you something of a boost to your playthrough, it does nothing but boost that "galaxy readiness' meter thing. You can max it out even without MP if you played all the cards right.

Why don't you get it, dudes? You lose nothing, they gain nothing. It's gonna be the same ending. It's equal.

We lose single player missions which could have been done with the time/money.

Oh come off it.  The only reason I never completely one-hundred percented ME1 was because of the sheer mind-crushing amount of missions available.  Yes, Mass Effect is an amazing game, but there comes a point where you have to say "enough is enough.  We're starting to get too much."

That said, I do hope that ME3 is longer than ME2 was.

[roflchoppaz]

Tamahome560 wrote...

roflchoppaz wrote...

Playing MP gives you something of a boost to your playthrough, it does nothing but boost that "galaxy readiness' meter thing. You can max it out even without MP if you played all the cards right.

Why don't you get it, dudes? You lose nothing, they gain nothing. It's gonna be the same ending. It's equal.

*hits rofl* Punchies!

Oh you!

[Orthor91]

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

roflchoppaz wrote...

Playing MP gives you something of a boost to your playthrough, it does nothing but boost that "galaxy readiness' meter thing. You can max it out even without MP if you played all the cards right.

Why don't you get it, dudes? You lose nothing, they gain nothing. It's gonna be the same ending. It's equal.

We lose single player missions which could have been done with the time/money.

thats assuming they would have added more. More likely they would have just released the game on time instead of pushing it so far back. Bioware and EA have quite alot of money right now. If they feel that there was a part of singleplayer that could/should be in the game. It'll be in there.

[Marionetten]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

That just sounds so incredibly drama queen no matter how I try reading it. Could you please try to explain it further? I mean, if you don't like your multiplayer influencing your single player, then don't play it. Before this announcement you were going to finish your single player campaign without any multiplayer on the side anyway, right?

I fail to see how voting with my wallet is acting like a drama queen or how it's difficult to understand why I'd reject the idea of multiplayer influencing singleplayer when I don't want multiplayer in the game at all. Tone down on the fanboyism a little.

Modifié par Marionetten, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:35 .