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[Tamahome560]

roflchoppaz wrote...

Tamahome560 wrote...

roflchoppaz wrote...

Playing MP gives you something of a boost to your playthrough, it does nothing but boost that "galaxy readiness' meter thing. You can max it out even without MP if you played all the cards right.

Why don't you get it, dudes? You lose nothing, they gain nothing. It's gonna be the same ending. It's equal.

*hits rofl* Punchies!

Oh you!

Rigby you do not know the power of Death block of death!

Anyway I'm okay with the MP and the way they are implementing it, looking forward to playing with my awesome friends =D

[Mr. Monorail]

This actually sounds quite interesting, I look forward to hearing more. Although, it sounds like I might be forced to make a tough decision... Will I play as my favourite race (Quarian) or do I choose another race so I can play as my favourite class (Vanguard)? I'm pretty sure Quarians will not be able to play as Vanguards. But then again, Soldiers are also good... Oh, but Turians are pretty cool as well. Ah, decisions.

Modifié par Mr. Monorail, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:37 .

[shepskisaac]

Orthor91 wrote...

thats assuming they would have added more. More likely they would have just released the game on time instead of pushing it so far back. Bioware and EA have quite alot of money right now. If they feel that there was a part of singleplayer that could/should be in the game. It'll be in there.

Or they would've deleayed it anyway and release with the same amount of content in SP as it will happen. Before any "we need to shoe in that MP!!!" reason for delay, there was the matter of polishing SP and most importantly uber-packed Holiday season with titles of which all outsold previous ME games and of course TOR & BF3's release dates.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:35 .

[Doug4130]

Marionetten wrote...

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

That just sounds so incredibly drama queen no matter how I try
reading it. Could you please try to explain it further? I mean, if you
don't like your multiplayer influencing your single player, then don't
play it. Before this announcement you were going to finish your single
player campaign without any multiplayer on the side anyway, right?

I fail to see how voting with my wallet is acting like a drama queen or how it's difficult to understand why I'd reject the idea of multiplayer influencing singleplayer when I don't want multiplayer in the game at all. Tone down on the fanboyism a little.

Because whether it affects it or not is completely your choice.  Nothing is being forced on you at all, in the slightest.  You can pretend that multiplayer is not there, never click it once, and it will not affect your experience in any way shape or form.  You don't want multiplayer?  Don't play it then.  People who do want it will play it.  Everybody gets to do it the way they want to.  

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

At least if you don't want to play MP but want the bonus inside, you can always leech three other players into doing the work for you.
Still, ME3 single player have to be perfect before they spend the money anywhere else.

[ccracer]

I'm very happy that this is finally added to the ME universe. This allows so much more play time.
TYVM BioWare

[Orthor91]

IsaacShep wrote...
Or they would've deleayed it anyway and release with the same amount of content in SP as it will happen. Before any "we need to shoe in that MP!!!" reason for delay, there was the matter of polishing SP and most importantly uber-packed Holiday season with titles of which all outsold previous ME games and of course TOR & BF3's release dates.

And can see where you coming from with that. But i still my point still stands that i believe money and time is not an issue. Bioware seems to be taking the "it will release when its ready" approach. if that means waiting for the people who made the first two awesome games and are confident that they can give me a third with an extra feature that is great but not absolutley needed, then I trust that they'll deliver something worth my time and money.

[Kasai666]

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

At least if you don't want to play MP but want the bonus inside, you can always leech three other players into doing the work for you.
Still, ME3 single player have to be perfect before they spend the money anywhere else.

Two different studios are working on this game. One is doing the multiplayer while the other is doing the SP. Plus, you can only pack so much awesome into a game. 

[Clonedzero]

unnecessary and unwanted by the core fanbase.
bioware is slipping. this was a terrible reason to delay the game.
sure some people will enjoy it, but honestly, come on....

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

Doug4130 wrote...
Because whether it affects it or not is completely your choice.  Nothing is being forced on you at all, in the slightest.  You can pretend that multiplayer is not there, never click it once, and it will not affect your experience in any way shape or form.  You don't want multiplayer?  Don't play it then.  People who do want it will play it.  Everybody gets to do it the way they want to.  

I want to have more single player experience with the money spend on multplayer, can I have it?

[staindgrey]

tariq071 wrote...

Camronnba wrote...

Will be cancelling my pre-order on my way home from work. Might still buy it but will not spend 60 dollars on it. I was once so hyped about ME3 and now I can happily wait till the game is 20 bucks to play it

Same here, with exception that after DA II i didn't trust them enough to pre-order anything(as it appears rightly so),but i was ready to pay full price on release date.

Since i don't give a dime for co-op or MP in any game(actually i deplore that type of gaming), i have no intention of supporting that idea whatsoever and will wait for heavy discount, and only if i am not forced to play co-op or MP dump in order "to affect" SP campaign.

What ever happened with "we learned from our mistakes with DA II"?

When they stop making games the way their accountants want them , then i will think about it.

"Deploring" comment aside, how would any mistake in DA2 have anything to do with including multiplayer? Because multiplayer was a huuuuge mistake in DA2 and all. 

[Marionetten]

Doug4130 wrote...

Because whether it affects it or not is completely your choice.  Nothing is being forced on you at all, in the slightest. You can pretend that multiplayer is not there, never click it once, and it will not affect your experience in any way shape or form.  You don't want multiplayer?  Don't play it then.  People who do want it will play it.  Everybody gets to do it the way they want to.

This is the same argument which has been applied to DLC and all other questionable features time and time again. It doesn't work. If this goes in and Mass Effect 3 ends up being a huge success BioWare is going to continue with it. It will lead to BioWare titles becoming more and more online centric which is what I view as an unacceptable development. It wouldn't be as bad if the multiplayer component was completely separate with no bearing on the campaign whatsoever. Think Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn. Unfortunately that isn't the case. They're intentionally connecting the two and in my eyes that is a very troubling development.

If you want more of this stuff then by all means buy the game and support it. I won't as I don't. What is so exceedingly difficult to comprehend in that?

Modifié par Marionetten, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:43 .

[Virtuous Lumox]

For the 4-player co-op do you have to have 4 players? Is it possible to play the co-op with just myself and one other player?

Also, as far as the other Galaxy at War platforms and interfaces, I hope you (BioWare) realize that there are other mobile platforms besides iPhone (iPad, iPod) and Android. Here's hoping you don't leave Windows Phone 7 out of the mobile strategy.

[Severyx]

I like the way BioWare is handling this. They have my trust in this sketchy situation.

[KBomb]

I am trying to remain open-minded and objective to this news. I have to admit though, I am not happy. Between this announcement and some bits and pieces I have heard about companions, I can’t shake the feeling of disappointment. It’s like being a kid and finding out Santa isn’t real.

[Doug4130]

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

Doug4130 wrote...
Because whether it affects it or not is completely your choice.  Nothing is being forced on you at all, in the slightest.  You can pretend that multiplayer is not there, never click it once, and it will not affect your experience in any way shape or form.  You don't want multiplayer?  Don't play it then.  People who do want it will play it.  Everybody gets to do it the way they want to.  

I want to have more single player experience with the money spend on multplayer, can I have it?

no, because the money wouldn't have been there in the first place.  

You're assuming that they were alotted a certain amount of money on it all and chose to spend however much on multiplayer.  That's not how it works.  Do you think that they had Kinect support in from the start?  No, Microsoft gave Bioware money for them to support it in their game.  Probably lots of it.  With regards to multiplayer, EA hired a completely seperate bioware studio (Bioware Montreal) so as to not take development time away from the team working on the core game (Bioware Edmonton) to do the multiplayer component of it.  

Modifié par Doug4130, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:48 .

[Maslab]

KBomb wrote...

I am trying to remain open-minded and objective to this news. I have to admit though, I am not happy. Between this announcement and some bits and pieces I have heard about companions, I can’t shake the feeling of disappointment. It’s like being a kid and finding out Santa isn’t real.

I dunno what that's like.  I never believed in Santa.

I, frankly, quite like this idea.  And if I get to play as a Hanar or Elcor, I will never criticize it.

[Fenderbaum]

Success in multi-player will have a direct impact on the outcome of the single player campaign, giving players an alternative method of achieving ultimate victory against the greatest threat mankind – and the entire galaxy – has ever faced.

Hmmmmmmm......

[Doug4130]

Marionetten wrote...

If you want more of this stuff then by all means buy the game and support it. I won't as I don't. What is so exceedingly difficult to comprehend in that?

I get that, but it just seems like such a trivial thing to warrant not finishing the mass effect story since it's a completely optional feature that only affects you if you let it.

[Marionetten]

Doug4130 wrote...

I get that, but it just seems like such a trivial thing to warrant not finishing the mass effect story since it's a completely optional feature that only affects you if you let it.

I'm really not seeing how adding in multiplayer is trivial. It's a pretty big deal. Giving Shepard a new hairstyle would have been trivial but knowing BSN it would probably have created an even bigger uproar.

[Fenderbaum]

Doug4130 wrote...

Marionetten wrote...

If you want more of this stuff then by all means buy the game and support it. I won't as I don't. What is so exceedingly difficult to comprehend in that?

I get that, but it just seems like such a trivial thing to warrant not finishing the mass effect story since it's a completely optional feature that only affects you if you let it.

This quote from Chris would suggest otherwise....

Success in multi-player will have a direct impact on the outcome of the single player campaign, giving players an alternative method of achieving ultimate victory against the greatest threat mankind – and the entire galaxy – has ever faced.

[Kidd]

Marionetten wrote...

If this goes in and Mass Effect 3 ends up being a huge success BioWare is going to continue with it. It will lead to BioWare titles becoming more and more online centric which is what I view as an unacceptable development. It wouldn't be as bad if the multiplayer component was completely separate with no bearing on the campaign whatsoever

The snowball effect is a logical fallacy though. But I do agree with you that the day multiplayer starts taking resources away from single player the way you're probably imagining the future atm, I'll be right there with you. As will most people, I believe.

Right now though, it's just like if you were walking down to the local ICA to buy a can of soda. As you hand the can to the cashier, the person there says "you can have a milk too if you want it btw, free of charge". Saying "I don't drink milk though, so I won't buy your soda", you leave the supermarket without soda and milk completely. What was the point? You could've had the soda you wanted, you could've left the milk at the counter never to feel that bovine taint on your tongue.

Sorry for calling you a drama queen btw, it was a bit too strong a wording. You get to call me drama queen once for free right back at me, I swear =)

Marionetten wrote...

Think Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn. Unfortunately that isn't the case. They're intentionally connecting the two and in my eyes that is a very troubling development.

BG2 multiplayer was strongly connected to the campaign though. It -was- the campaign and other people could join and leave your campaign as they wished to (and you as a host allowed to). Just like with ME3 though, you could hit the Single player button and never look at the Multiplayer button and enjoy yourself completely offline without any online features finding its way into your world.

EDIT: BG2 multiplayer was the bomb btw. Please give us multiplayer just like it for DA3, Bioware. I wanna control my friends' companions on their quests for glory =)

Modifié par KiddDaBeauty, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:56 .

[Tim French]

As this is optional and has a different studio working on it, so the main story will not be effected by it (other then in a minor way if I am reading it correctly), as I am taking it as you get somany items from playing the MP, but I can see the same items being found gained in side missions etc in the main story. With that being my theory I don't care that much about the issue.

However as I am a crazy person, I hope there is no achievements for doing all missions in 4 player co-op, as I can get a team up to 3 with my friends, but the fourth is tricky and I want to keep my 100% streak alive. That is my only issue.

[Orthor91]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...



Right now though, it's just like if you were walking down to the local ICA to buy a can of soda. As you hand the can to the cashier, the person there says "you can have a milk too if you want it btw, free of charge". Saying "I don't drink milk though, so I won't buy your soda", you leave the supermarket without soda and milk completely. What was the point? You could've had the soda you wanted, you could've left the milk at the counter never to feel that bovine taint on your tongue.

Best explanation win.