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[Darth Vengeant]

Arsenal0602 wrote...

aquamutt wrote...

Darth Vengeant wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

@Darth Vengeant don't give me this completionist garbage.


If you really care to get 100%, you'll get friends or deal with some random people for a Co-Op achievements.

To YOU it is garbage, to others it is not. That is my point. Making it fair for EVERYONE. Some people enojy it, you obviously dont care. But, why ruin others enjoyment just because YOU dont care? See my point?

So, your saying I should be forced to socialize with people I do not want to deal with inorder to earn the 100% in a game? I think not. News flash. Not everyone is Mr Social. Not everyone enjoys having to deal with others all the time. Some people, which this may suprise you, are quite anti-social. It is called being an Introvert. It does't mean there is something wrong with us either. Introverts are very creative and artistic. We enjoy the quite of solitude and doing things on our own. We are all different people.

your the type of person EA loves

The type that sits and plays the same game over and over rather then buying a new EA game every time it is released.

That seems like a poor buisness choice.

Thats not me. I buy and play many games, on both PS3 and X360 for that matter.

Modifié par Darth Vengeant, 11 octobre 2011 - 08:05 .

[Darkeus]

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

If you don't like co-op, then don't play co-op.

I don't understand what the issue is here?

Worry about a watered down Single Player Experience and the fact that optional is a funny word, espcially when it looks to not be as optional as the PR faq says.

You have no proof of that.

Nor is there really that much proof to the contrary.  So looks like an impasse.

[aquamutt]

Arsenal0602 wrote...

aquamutt wrote...

Darth Vengeant wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

@Darth Vengeant don't give me this completionist garbage.


If you really care to get 100%, you'll get friends or deal with some random people for a Co-Op achievements.

To YOU it is garbage, to others it is not. That is my point. Making it fair for EVERYONE. Some people enojy it, you obviously dont care. But, why ruin others enjoyment just because YOU dont care? See my point?

So, your saying I should be forced to socialize with people I do not want to deal with inorder to earn the 100% in a game? I think not. News flash. Not everyone is Mr Social. Not everyone enjoys having to deal with others all the time. Some people, which this may suprise you, are quite anti-social. It is called being an Introvert. It does't mean there is something wrong with us either. Introverts are very creative and artistic. We enjoy the quite of solitude and doing things on our own. We are all different people.

your the type of person EA loves

The type that sits and plays the same game over and over rather then buying a new EA game every time it is released.

That seems like a poor buisness choice.

not if milk them with dlc and with that completest attitude they'll jump all over it

[Dark_Caduceus]

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

If you don't like co-op, then don't play co-op.

I don't understand what the issue is here?

Worry about a watered down Single Player Experience and the fact that optional is a funny word, espcially when it looks to not be as optional as the PR faq says.

True.

Agreed.

[shep82]

Pythonicus wrote...

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

roflchoppaz wrote...

Playing MP gives you something of a boost to your playthrough, it does nothing but boost that "galaxy readiness' meter thing. You can max it out even without MP if you played all the cards right.

Why don't you get it, dudes? You lose nothing, they gain nothing. It's gonna be the same ending. It's equal.

We lose single player missions which could have been done with the time/money.

This x1000
I don't want MP I won't play the MP. But I want to play as much ME3 as possible. Any mission that is MP could have been a SP mission instead.

Incorrect. The CO-Op portion was done by a seperate team with seperate resorces without that team and co-op we would get the exact same game.

[Cainne Chapel]

Pythonicus wrote...

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

roflchoppaz wrote...

Playing MP gives you something of a boost to your playthrough, it does nothing but boost that "galaxy readiness' meter thing. You can max it out even without MP if you played all the cards right.

Why don't you get it, dudes? You lose nothing, they gain nothing. It's gonna be the same ending. It's equal.

We lose single player missions which could have been done with the time/money.

This x1000
I don't want MP I won't play the MP. But I want to play as much ME3 as possible. Any mission that is MP could have been a SP mission instead.

How do you figure? if the SP is equal to or longer than ME2... what are we missing out by the added benefit of a CooP mode? Thats designed by a different studio, solely for inclusion?  Heck I personally wont play MP much as I dont play MP very much lately anyway, but i'm not gonna gripe about an added feature to the game.  It'd be like complaining that resources for kinect support took away from SP as well....which i dont see being the case. As the cost/benefit ration usually doesn't play out like that.

[shep82]

Darkeus wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

If you don't like co-op, then don't play co-op.

I don't understand what the issue is here?

Worry about a watered down Single Player Experience and the fact that optional is a funny word, espcially when it looks to not be as optional as the PR faq says.

You have no proof of that.

Nor is there really that much proof to the contrary.  So looks like an impasse.

From what has been revealed there is plenty of proof that the singleplayer won't be affected you just choose to not believe it.

[Darth Vengeant]

aquamutt wrote...

Arsenal0602 wrote...

aquamutt wrote...

Darth Vengeant wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

@Darth Vengeant don't give me this completionist garbage.


If you really care to get 100%, you'll get friends or deal with some random people for a Co-Op achievements.

To YOU it is garbage, to others it is not. That is my point. Making it fair for EVERYONE. Some people enojy it, you obviously dont care. But, why ruin others enjoyment just because YOU dont care? See my point?

So, your saying I should be forced to socialize with people I do not want to deal with inorder to earn the 100% in a game? I think not. News flash. Not everyone is Mr Social. Not everyone enjoys having to deal with others all the time. Some people, which this may suprise you, are quite anti-social. It is called being an Introvert. It does't mean there is something wrong with us either. Introverts are very creative and artistic. We enjoy the quite of solitude and doing things on our own. We are all different people.

your the type of person EA loves

The type that sits and plays the same game over and over rather then buying a new EA game every time it is released.

That seems like a poor buisness choice.

not if milk them with dlc and with that completest attitude they'll jump all over it

Some people wait a year or until all the DLC is released and buy the GOTY or Ultimate Edtions. I am one of them. I wont be nickle and dimed to death by DLC prices.

[Arsenal0602]

Mesina2 wrote...

Darth Vengeant wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

@Darth Vengeant don't give me this completionist garbage.


If you really care to get 100%, you'll get friends or deal with some random people for a Co-Op achievements.

To YOU it is garbage, to others it is not. That is my point. Making it fair for EVERYONE. Some people enojy it, you obviously dont care. But, why ruin others enjoyment just because YOU dont care? See my point?

So, your saying I should be forced to socialize with people I do not want to deal with inorder to earn the 100% in a game? I think not. News flash. Not everyone is Mr Social. Not everyone enjoys having to deal with others all the time. Some people, which this may suprise you, are quite anti-social. It is called being an Introvert. It does't mean there is something wrong with us either. Introverts are very creative and artistic. We enjoy the quite of solitude and doing things on our own. We are all different people.

What kinda bull is this?

Being anti-social is not a good thing for anyone.


Besides, you being here replying to me is a social activity.
If you can bother to reply to me and so with the other I think you can easly do a Co-Op with other people as well.

Besides, Bioware never did any insane achievement like Ubisoft and games like Mass Effect don't have hard to do achievements.

You are mixing up being anti-social and having a social phobia, being anti-social is fine and healthy as long as it is nothing extreme and does not cause yourself or others harm.   But that is not the point.

And you are correct about the past Achievements in Mass Effect, my issue is that adding MP achievements is going to alienate some players, and players that hae an intrest in and alway go for the 100% may not be able to at this point because of it. 

[shep82]

Cainne Chapel wrote...

Pythonicus wrote...

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

roflchoppaz wrote...

Playing MP gives you something of a boost to your playthrough, it does nothing but boost that "galaxy readiness' meter thing. You can max it out even without MP if you played all the cards right.

Why don't you get it, dudes? You lose nothing, they gain nothing. It's gonna be the same ending. It's equal.

We lose single player missions which could have been done with the time/money.

This x1000
I don't want MP I won't play the MP. But I want to play as much ME3 as possible. Any mission that is MP could have been a SP mission instead.

How do you figure? if the SP is equal to or longer than ME2... what are we missing out by the added benefit of a CooP mode? Thats designed by a different studio, solely for inclusion?  Heck I personally wont play MP much as I dont play MP very much lately anyway, but i'm not gonna gripe about an added feature to the game.  It'd be like complaining that resources for kinect support took away from SP as well....which i dont see being the case. As the cost/benefit ration usually doesn't play out like that.

Bolded for truth.

[Dark_Caduceus]

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

If you don't like co-op, then don't play co-op.

I don't understand what the issue is here?

Worry about a watered down Single Player Experience and the fact that optional is a funny word, espcially when it looks to not be as optional as the PR faq says.

You have no proof of that.

Nor is there really that much proof to the contrary.  So looks like an impasse.

From what has been revealed there is plenty of proof that the singleplayer will be affected you just choose to not believe it.

Yeah, wake up man.

[Cainne Chapel]

[/quote]

Worry about a watered down Single Player Experience and the fact that optional is a funny word, espcially when it looks to not be as optional as the PR faq says.

[/quote]

The PR faq says "alternative" means of advancement... do you not know what that means?

if SP is same or longer than ME2 or ME1.... then how would we be watered down?  Devs have already stated the main portion of the game is equal length to ME2, so i dont see what were losing here.

[Melra]

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

If you don't like co-op, then don't play co-op.

I don't understand what the issue is here?

Worry about a watered down Single Player Experience and the fact that optional is a funny word, espcially when it looks to not be as optional as the PR faq says.

You have no proof of that.

Nor is there really that much proof to the contrary.  So looks like an impasse.

From what has been revealed there is plenty of proof that the singleplayer won't be affected you just choose to not believe it.

It can't really be called proof, if you can so easily choose whether to believe it or not.

[Darkeus]

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

If you don't like co-op, then don't play co-op.

I don't understand what the issue is here?

Worry about a watered down Single Player Experience and the fact that optional is a funny word, espcially when it looks to not be as optional as the PR faq says.

You have no proof of that.

Nor is there really that much proof to the contrary.  So looks like an impasse.

From what has been revealed there is plenty of proof that the singleplayer won't be affected you just choose to not believe it.

What was released is a PR faq rushed out because there was tremendous outrage going on.  You believe everything you read?  Especially in those circumstances where opinion is swinging against the person writing?

[Darth Vengeant]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Let's please cut out the name calling and insults. We can disagree with each other without being childish about it.

And people wonder why I am anti-social?. You just prived part of why. People cant remain civil for some reason.

[shep82]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

If you don't like co-op, then don't play co-op.

I don't understand what the issue is here?

Worry about a watered down Single Player Experience and the fact that optional is a funny word, espcially when it looks to not be as optional as the PR faq says.

You have no proof of that.

Nor is there really that much proof to the contrary.  So looks like an impasse.

From what has been revealed there is plenty of proof that the singleplayer will be affected you just choose to not believe it.

Yeah, wake up man.

Wake up from what exactly? Because I have faith in Bioware and you don't?

[Iakus]

Darkeus wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

If you don't like co-op, then don't play co-op.

I don't understand what the issue is here?

Worry about a watered down Single Player Experience and the fact that optional is a funny word, espcially when it looks to not be as optional as the PR faq says.

As  far  as  I'm  concerned,  if  it's not on a separate disk marked "multiplayer" or a Day 1 dlc i can choose not to install, it's not optional enough.

[Darkeus]

There is a thing called blind faith....

[Dark_Caduceus]

Darth Vengeant wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Let's please cut out the name calling and insults. We can disagree with each other without being childish about it.

And people wonder why I am anti-social? I hate friends, they're useless.

Ummmm, friends are kidna nice to have man.

Modifié par Dark_Caduceus, 11 octobre 2011 - 08:11 .

[shep82]

Darkeus wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

If you don't like co-op, then don't play co-op.

I don't understand what the issue is here?

Worry about a watered down Single Player Experience and the fact that optional is a funny word, espcially when it looks to not be as optional as the PR faq says.

You have no proof of that.

Nor is there really that much proof to the contrary.  So looks like an impasse.

From what has been revealed there is plenty of proof that the singleplayer won't be affected you just choose to not believe it.

What was released is a PR faq rushed out because there was tremendous outrage going on.  You believe everything you read?  Especially in those circumstances where opinion is swinging against the person writing?

No but I trust in Bioware they have yet to do anything to loose that trust.

[Pythonicus]

shep82 wrote...

Pythonicus wrote...

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

roflchoppaz wrote...

Playing MP gives you something of a boost to your playthrough, it does nothing but boost that "galaxy readiness' meter thing. You can max it out even without MP if you played all the cards right.

Why don't you get it, dudes? You lose nothing, they gain nothing. It's gonna be the same ending. It's equal.

We lose single player missions which could have been done with the time/money.

This x1000
I don't want MP I won't play the MP. But I want to play as much ME3 as possible. Any mission that is MP could have been a SP mission instead.

Incorrect. The CO-Op portion was done by a seperate team with seperate resorces without that team and co-op we would get the exact same game.

Doesn't matter it still could have been single player content instead. That second team could have been working on SP content instead.
More SP>any CO-OP

[Darkeus]

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

If you don't like co-op, then don't play co-op.

I don't understand what the issue is here?

Worry about a watered down Single Player Experience and the fact that optional is a funny word, espcially when it looks to not be as optional as the PR faq says.

You have no proof of that.

Nor is there really that much proof to the contrary.  So looks like an impasse.

From what has been revealed there is plenty of proof that the singleplayer won't be affected you just choose to not believe it.

What was released is a PR faq rushed out because there was tremendous outrage going on.  You believe everything you read?  Especially in those circumstances where opinion is swinging against the person writing?

No but I trust in Bioware they have yet to do anything to loose that trust.

Dragon Age 2.

The increasing influence of EA in their game development.

Those two make me worry enough thank you....

[DarthSliver]

Mesina2 wrote...

Darth Vengeant wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

@Darth Vengeant don't give me this completionist garbage.


If you really care to get 100%, you'll get friends or deal with some random people for a Co-Op achievements.

To YOU it is garbage, to others it is not. That is my point. Making it fair for EVERYONE. Some people enojy it, you obviously dont care. But, why ruin others enjoyment just because YOU dont care? See my point?

So, your saying I should be forced to socialize with people I do not want to deal with inorder to earn the 100% in a game? I think not. News flash. Not everyone is Mr Social. Not everyone enjoys having to deal with others all the time. Some people, which this may suprise you, are quite anti-social. It is called being an Introvert. It does't mean there is something wrong with us either. Introverts are very creative and artistic. We enjoy the quite of solitude and doing things on our own. We are all different people.

What kinda bull is this?

Being anti-social is not a good thing for anyone.


Besides, you being here replying to me is a social activity.
If you can bother to reply to me and so with the other I think you can easly do a Co-Op with other people as well.

Besides, Bioware never did any insane achievement like Ubisoft and games like Mass Effect don't have hard to do achievements.

I agree being Anti-Social is bad. Once you start its hard to change your ways from being Anti-social but its worth it onces you take the time to change.  I will admit i am mainly anti-social and ive been working at not being one but its hard to change my ways in that. You know what they say about bad habits, they are the hardest to break and thats because it seems so much easier to just stay in the shell you created for yourself. 

MP achievements are usually hard to get but since this MP is just Co-Op its not going to be hard for you to get, all you need to do is find someone to play with through the whole thing and you should get all the achievements. There is a chance there might be one to beat Co-Op on insane but general Co-Op achievements are easy to get unlike competitive MP.

[Dark_Caduceus]

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

If you don't like co-op, then don't play co-op.

I don't understand what the issue is here?

Worry about a watered down Single Player Experience and the fact that optional is a funny word, espcially when it looks to not be as optional as the PR faq says.

You have no proof of that.

Nor is there really that much proof to the contrary.  So looks like an impasse.

From what has been revealed there is plenty of proof that the singleplayer won't be affected you just choose to not believe it.

What was released is a PR faq rushed out because there was tremendous outrage going on.  You believe everything you read?  Especially in those circumstances where opinion is swinging against the person writing?

No I don't trust in Bioware they have yet to do anything to gain that trust.

Yes they have.

[bigheadzach]

Darth Vengeant wrote...

To YOU it is garbage, to others it is not. That is my point. Making it fair for EVERYONE. Some people enojy it, you obviously dont care. But, why ruin others enjoyment just because YOU dont care? See my point?

So, your saying I should be forced to socialize with people I do not want to deal with inorder to earn the 100% in a game? I think not. News flash. Not everyone is Mr Social. Not everyone enjoys having to deal with others all the time. Some people, which this may suprise you, are quite anti-social. It is called being an Introvert. It does't mean there is something wrong with us either. Introverts are very creative and artistic. We enjoy the quiet of solitude and doing things on our own. We are all different people.

But why are you insisting I can't have my MP fun along with your SP fun? Why is it so deafeningly abhorrent that ME3 has content that AIN'T ALL ABOUT YOU?