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[Lunatic LK47]

YouthCultureForever wrote...
Have you considered the Uncharted example?

Uh, Uncharted is the RARE EXCEPTION, but problem is, those are too far and too few between.

[YouthCultureForever]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

YouthCultureForever wrote...
Have you considered the Uncharted example?

Uh, Uncharted is the RARE EXCEPTION, but problem is, those are too far and too few between.

You don't think Bioware can accomplish what Naughty Dog did?

[Lunatic LK47]

YouthCultureForever wrote...

You don't think Bioware can accomplish what Naughty Dog did?

Thing is, I want nothing more than a perfect single-player experience, without having to think about multiplayer.  I'm sick of 90% of the entire video game market as it is.  Only have Batman: Arkham City and Saints Row 3 worth looking forward to. Problem I'm having with the co-op is it might make all of my investment in the earlier games be for nothing (i.e. Cameos and emails as my rewards for doing my side-missions), just because of the sudden implementation of co-op.  Game might have potential, but it could equally bomb if execution goes wrong.

[111987]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

YouthCultureForever wrote...

You don't think Bioware can accomplish what Naughty Dog did?

Thing is, I want nothing more than a perfect single-player experience, without having to think about multiplayer.  I'm sick of 90% of the entire video game market as it is.  Only have Batman: Arkham City and Saints Row 3 worth looking forward to. Problem I'm having with the co-op is it might make all of my investment in the earlier games be for nothing (i.e. Cameos and emails as my rewards for doing my side-missions), just because of the sudden implementation of co-op.  Game might have potential, but it could equally bomb if execution goes wrong.

Mass Effect 2 only had small cameos, and emails...and it didn't have multiplayer...

Not sure what you are arguing here.

[Lunatic LK47]

111987 wrote...

Mass Effect 2 only had small cameos, and emails...and it didn't have multiplayer...

Not sure what you are arguing here.

Uh, how about the fact that Hudson promised "We'd cut loose with all of the variables?" What's to say the implementation of co-op didn't half-ass this department?

[111987]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

111987 wrote...

Mass Effect 2 only had small cameos, and emails...and it didn't have multiplayer...

Not sure what you are arguing here.

Uh, how about the fact that Hudson promised "We'd cut loose with all of the variables?" What's to say the implementation of co-op didn't half-ass this department?

You didn't respond to the point of my post; Mass Effect 2, without co-op, only had crappy cameos and emails.

IF Mass Effect 3 does the same thing in regards to past choices, you can't say it was the fault of co-op because Mass Effect 2 directly contradicts that idea.

[Lunatic LK47]

111987 wrote...

You didn't respond to the point of my post; Mass Effect 2, without co-op, only had crappy cameos and emails.

Uh, I'm ****ing aware of that.  ME3 is the final stop, and I want the consequences to be FULL FORCE FOR ME3.

[YouthCultureForever]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

YouthCultureForever wrote...

You don't think Bioware can accomplish what Naughty Dog did?

Thing is, I want nothing more than a perfect single-player experience, without having to think about multiplayer.  I'm sick of 90% of the entire video game market as it is.  Only have Batman: Arkham City and Saints Row 3 worth looking forward to. Problem I'm having with the co-op is it might make all of my investment in the earlier games be for nothing (i.e. Cameos and emails as my rewards for doing my side-missions), just because of the sudden implementation of co-op.  Game might have potential, but it could equally bomb if execution goes wrong.

Bioware is putting SP first, they've confirmed it. MP is extremely basic as far as MPs go. And this is the end of the trilogy, they're going to tie up loose ends. There isn't anything inherently bad about MP, the issues you have with it sound like problems with so-so developers. The ME3 demo looks amazing, I don't see any problems with this game so far. It looks a hundred times better than ME2. What indicates that the addition of MP will cause this game to bomb?

[111987]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

111987 wrote...

You didn't respond to the point of my post; Mass Effect 2, without co-op, only had crappy cameos and emails.

Uh, I'm ****ing aware of that.  ME3 is the final stop, and I want the consequences to be FULL FORCE FOR ME3.

Then wait for the game to come out, and find out how big choice ends up being, before you judge. And no, your past experience does not determine conclusively that ME3 will suck because of co-op, just like how my examples in the OP don't determine that it will be any good. What you should be taking from this is that you should keep an open mind and reserve judgement.

[Lunatic LK47]

YouthCultureForever wrote...

Bioware is putting SP first, they've confirmed it. MP is extremely basic as far as MPs go. And this is the end of the trilogy, they're going to tie up loose ends. There isn't anything inherently bad about MP, the issues you have with it sound like problems with so-so developers.

Problem I'm having is, BioWare is not immune to that. They've had a shaky record recently (i.e. Ranging from Dragon Age-related DLC to Dragon Age 2), and Hudson has a lot riding on this. Problem I'm having is 9/10 times, multiplayer frequently DOES downgrade single-player one way or another. My biggest fear for ME3 is it might not be the best it could be just because the funding went to multiplayer, and as far as I know, the majority of this board never asked for multiplayer.  I already saw this with Medal of Honor (i.e. Two separate studios, DICE focused on multiplayer, and that game still sucked, where I just wanted to know the story behind the War in Afghanistan and expected more than a 5 hour campaign.)  

[Lunatic LK47]

[quote]111987 wrote...
Uh, I'm ****ing aware of that.  ME3 is the final stop, and I want the consequences to be FULL FORCE FOR ME3.
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Then wait for the game to come out, and find out how big choice ends up being, before you judge. And no, your past experience does not determine conclusively that ME3 will suck because of co-op, just like how my examples in the OP don't determine that it will be any good. What you should be taking from this is that you should keep an open mind and reserve judgement.[/quote]

Uh, my judgment for Treyarch's Call of Duty games served me right (i.e. Read: World at War and Black Ops still have **** campaigns compared to Infinity Ward). BioWare isn't immune to screwing up, especially with the mixed reception regarding Dragon Age, and the last thing I want is ME3 not reaching the "perfect game" status just because A UNIVERSALLLY DREADED CO-OP WAS IMPLEMENTED.

[Stanley Woo]

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