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[tez19]

I have always been a fan of Bioware's games and Mass Effect 1 and 2 are my favourite story driven games of all time, Dragon Age: Origins is not far behind.
With the extreme disappointment which was Dragon Age 2 (to completely change and redesign the game, combat, graphics, story i.e nothing to do with wardens) i was left disappointed by the game and did not expect such a mediocre game from Bioware, I put it down to a hiccup.
Now with the news of kinect and multiplayer in Mass Effect 3 i believe my fears are being confirmed that Bioware has stopped being the story driven RPG developers i use to love. I do not believe it is EA that has turned Bioware into this, i believe Bioware have just become greedy and want a larger slice of the market and a wider audience (they were quoted on saying they want the COD audience) but by doing this they seem to be completely alienating and betraying the fans that made them what they are today and the fans who have followed them for years.
I now believe Bioware is a good developer, not a godlike developer who make games they believe in and love. They are now making games for money and profit like many other good developers do. Bioware seem to no longer be in the elite of development studios.
I am sure Mass Effect 3 will be a good game as was Dragon Age 2, but by standards Bioware set, good is a severe disappointment from this once great studio. Thank god we still have Bethesda.

[Gibb_Shepard]

tez19 wrote...

I have always been a fan of Bioware's games and Mass Effect 1 and 2 are my favourite story driven games of all time, Dragon Age: Origins is not far behind.
With the extreme disappointment which was Dragon Age 2 (to completely change and redesign the game, combat, graphics, story i.e nothing to do with wardens) i was left disappointed by the game and did not expect such a mediocre game from Bioware, I put it down to a hiccup.
Now with the news of kinect and multiplayer in Mass Effect 3 i believe my fears are being confirmed that Bioware has stopped being the story driven RPG developers i use to love. I do not believe it is EA that has turned Bioware into this, i believe Bioware have just become greedy and want a larger slice of the market and a wider audience (they were quoted on saying they want the COD audience) but by doing this they seem to be completely alienating and betraying the fans that made them what they are today and the fans who have followed them for years.
I now believe Bioware is a good developer, not a godlike developer who make games they believe in and love. They are now making games for money and profit like many other good developers do. Bioware seem to no longer be in the elite of development studios.
I am sure Mass Effect 3 will be a good game as was Dragon Age 2, but by standards Bioware set, good is a severe disappointment from this once great studio. Thank god we still have CDProject.

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[SNascimento]

No.
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There is not nearly enough evidence to claim that.
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Although I have to say that after they did to Revan I'll never see Bioware with the same eyes.

[Savber100]

Lets see the facts over the past 2 1/2 yrs.

One mediocre game. (Dragon Age 2)

One supposedly bad game that has not even been released. (Mass Effect 3)

vs

Dragon Age: Origins
Mass Effect 2

I think I'm still confident of Bioware's ability despite their move to a broader audience.

Also why do people keep saying that the addition of MP equal bad singleplayer? Have none of you guys played Uncharted 2 or Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood? Did Dead Space 2 really sucked in SP?

Honestly, we're getting more value for our money...

And why do people keep assuming that no MP equals better SP? EA would NEVER had given Bioware the extra cash if they weren't making MP so that kinda makes the point that SP will be worse because of MP kinda moot.

Haha, Bethesda? You gotta be kidding!

CDPR is the current king right now. But who knows? Maybe after 11 or so games and a decade later, they would change too.

Modifié par Savber100, 11 octobre 2011 - 02:05 .

[General User]

Between DA:O and the Mass Effect series, Bioware has some serious good credits in my book and I'm willing to give them a chance on just about anything. DAII might just be a fluke, no one bats 1000.

Maybe ME3 will be great, maybe it will fall flat on its face. If it does fail, maybe it will be because Bioware tried to reach out to too large an audience, and maybe it will be because of something else.

Only time will tell.

[Kentuckan]

Developer adds something new to time tested formula, Developers are now ruined forever.

I don't mean to rag on you or anything but you should really adopt a wait and see attitude before you assume Bioware has gone off the deep end.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Are you kidding? The multiplayer has character customization, different races, level progression, weapons modding, and ties into the story. How is that not an RPG? All it's missing is the dialogue. Stop whining over this, you do realize this isn't Bioware's first go at multiplayer right?

-Polite

[Xilizhra]

Since I think DA2 was better than DAO in several ways... no, I'm not terribly afraid of this.

[CroGamer002]

Eh, Dragon Age 2 has identical gameplay as Origins.

Only difference is that animations are faster and enemy spawn most of the time( not counting DLC's).

[spirosz]

yeahh buddy!

[Bogsnot1]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Are you kidding? The multiplayer has character customization, different races, level progression, weapons modding, and ties into the story. How is that not an RPG? All it's missing is the dialogue. Stop whining over this, you do realize this isn't Bioware's first go at multiplayer right?

-Polite

This.

You could even argue that they are going back to their roots, which is, you know, how they became so well respected in the first place.

[happy_daiz]

'Tis strange to judge a game before it even comes out. I have faith that BioWare knows what they're doing. I'm on the fence about the co-op/multiplayer business, but I'll reserve my judgement until I've actually tried it out.

And...in before lock.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 11 octobre 2011 - 02:18 .

[DaringMoosejaw]

Looks like the hipsters are abandoning ship, which can only mean great things are coming. Unlike rats, they jump overboard when it STOPS sinking.

Modifié par DaringMoosejaw, 11 octobre 2011 - 02:19 .

[Sanunes]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Are you kidding? The multiplayer has character customization, different races, level progression, weapons modding, and ties into the story. How is that not an RPG? All it's missing is the dialogue. Stop whining over this, you do realize this isn't Bioware's first go at multiplayer right?

-Polite

I agree with Polite.

[Siven80]

Talk about over reacting

Jeez, just because you dont like some things it doesnt mean bioware have lost it. if anything, you are the one losing it.

[slimgrin]

I do think kinect and the like is a waste of their time, but I'm not going to condemn them for making one bad game. Mass Effect has a different team and imo a more talented team at that. If they can deliver with both single player and co-op, the game will be a massive success.

[Blooddrunk1004]

How about you judge the game after you played it?
And stop bringing DA2 into this. DA2 had alot more short development cycle. Different teams are working on SP and MP. Not to mention if multiplayer will be succesfull and awesome we might get the same quality we recieved in Read Dead Redemption.
P.S Baldur's Gate and NWN also had multiplayer, i admit i didn't want MP in ME3 but since they announced it im not gono whine like 80% of people here does im gono continue supporting them and hope they will make it epic and fun.

Modifié par Blooddrunk1004, 11 octobre 2011 - 02:25 .

[xSTONEYx187x]

This is their most ambitious game to date, they are evolving.

[Gibb_Shepard]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Are you kidding? The multiplayer has character customization, different races, level progression, weapons modding, 

-Polite

All of that is present in your average Call of duty multiplayer. If they weren't included, BW would be lagging behind.

[AdmiralCheez]

I don't know. ME3 sounds too huge to be real at this point. If they pull it off--and if SWTOR is a success--this could be the peak of their greatness.

And then hopefully they'll have the confidence and resources to actually finish DA3 before releasing it, keeping the rest of us busy with new content for Mass 3 and The Old Republic while they don't rush things.

[Pepper4]

Not this thread again!

[tez19]

Kentuckan wrote...

Developer adds something new to time tested formula, Developers are now ruined forever.

I don't mean to rag on you or anything but you should really adopt a wait and see attitude before you assume Bioware has gone off the deep end.

I did this with Dragon Age 2 if anybody remembers me, i even defended Bioware's decisions and stood up against the haters(getting banned by EA) but was left severely disappointed and grudgingly in agreement with the naysayers. My faith in Bioware has wavered since then.

[JoshieoPandar]

DA2 was pressured into being developed within a year. Yeah, it wasn't Origins-standard, but it was still decent as its own game. Still, give ME3 a chance, it'll be everyone's last game with Shepard before his/her trilogy ends. Anyone who's played ME deserves to see the conclusion of their own Shepard's story. Please take Bethesda worshiping to their forums, I ain't bashing them, but the way you're comparing them are apples and oranges. I'm a TES fan myself, got skyrim on preorder. One bad game does not justify the future to come, though.

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Are you kidding? The multiplayer has character customization, different races, level progression, weapons modding, and ties into the story. How is that not an RPG? All it's missing is the dialogue. Stop whining over this, you do realize this isn't Bioware's first go at multiplayer right?

-Polite

This. There were multiple ways of them implementing their multiplayer feature. I'm glad they took a decent route for it involving it being standalone, and completely optional along with key aspects of the gameplay, rpg elements, character customization etc, maybe minus the dialogue and decisions. Kickback with a few mates over vent/skype, or a LAN party, and enjoy some coop in an awesome IP.

[KenKenpachi]

No more like a Developer, that has alot of CRPGers from a bygone era who like to stay just to **** on its forums.