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[Simulacrum]

Simply put, I'm pissed. I'm pissed that I'm having so much trouble with dragon bosses that I hear people have beaten on the first try. Yeah right, and they are probably playing the most overpowered class, did research on the best party makeup, etc. and exploit that.

It comes down to this. I don't particularly enjoy doing extensive research on how to play the game the first time through. I just want to enjoy it. I've played enough RPGS and games in general to know my way around things. I'm not ignorant by any means. However, when I simply "can't" beat a boss, literally can't, there is a problem. I have my duel-wielding warrior, Alistar, Morrigan, and Wynne facing the High Dragon. I heal as best as I can but they all die, with little damage done to the thing. Why is this? I use my buffs, I heal constantly, I move my characters around in strategic positions (though it does little good), all spit back in my face. My characters are all around level 12, by the way. I hear someone beat Flemith as a level 8? What the **** is going on here?

The makers should've realized that most people will be picking up this game, making a class that appeals to them, and putting points and skills wherever seems most fun/interesting. If that actually hinders your playthrough of the game, that is simply bad design. I've never thought about simply quitting a game because of being fed up when I've put so much time in to it already. I never thought I would say it, but I'm disappointed with a Bioware game.

These forums are terrible too.

Rant over.

Modifié par Simulacrum, 22 novembre 2009 - 11:56 .

[Spaceweed10]

The reasons these forums are cr*p, is because of QQ threads like this.

I beat Flemeth first try with Wynne, Shale , Alistair, and my Rogue on 'Hard'.

It took a lot a micro management, but was a blast.

L2P and stop whining like a little girl.

Edit:  My bad, you are talking about the 'High Dragon' whilst doing the 'Ashes of Andraste' quest?  Wow, that is a piece of p!ss due to the fact you have Morrigan in your party <she can't fight Flemeth>.

Wth are you playing at?  Are both your arms broken? 

Modifié par Spaceweed10, 22 novembre 2009 - 12:05 .

[Zenthar Aseth]

Try again later..

[orpheus333]

Yeah return to the peak later and deal with it.

[Murkeli]

It took me three tries to kill Flemeth and three to kill the High Dragon on hard. My party was Wynne, Morrigan, Shale and me as a rogue, and no, I didn't research anything.



Melee can't really do anything against dragons so your best bet is to bring atleast three ranged classes. It's not that hard.

[Raint]

people just need to think when they play, thats all

[Hyunsai]

Funny thing is some guys find the random pack of wolves harder than any dragons in the game.

[Vizkos]

Lower the difficulty if its too hard.  Highten it if its too easy.  Simple really.

Modifié par Prosthetics511, 22 novembre 2009 - 12:06 .

[Simulacrum]

Spaceweed10 wrote...

The reasons these forums are cr*p, is because of QQ threads like this.

I beat Flemeth first try with Wynne, Shale , Alistair, and my Rogue on 'Hard'.

It took a lot a micro management, but was a blast.

L2P and stop whining like a little girl.

Define "alot of micro management" to me. What exactly did you do to beat her? I can't even out-heal the High Dragons damage with two mages.

I think my point stands as valid, regardless. The difficulty needs to be addressed. I downloaded the patch as well.

[Simulacrum]

All you guys do is kite the thing, don't you?

[Zenthar Aseth]

You just need to play more until you get the hang of the game's combat.

[Naminator236]

Dude I know how you feel!



I tried and tried to kill them before I read up on the strategy, and I just could not. I could not even get the ****ing thing down to 90% hp even though I was blowing through pots like a mad man.



After I read how to kill those things I did them both on by first try without even a sweat. If you want me to tell you how to do it then says it. If you would like to figure it out by yourself, then more power to ya.

[spscarter]

Dude, if you're having problems with a "duel wield" warrior and two mages in your party, you honestly might as well uninstall this game right now.

[Vizkos]

LOL my bad, I figured this thread was the typical "wha this game is too easy" thread. Maybe its the tiredness talking considering its 5 am here.



Regardless, lower the difficulty if its too hard. A little person isn't meant to take on a huge beast and expect an easy road anyway.

[billbro]

I've been playing the game on normal and apart from Gaxkang I don't think any boss has been particularly challenging. I suppose one of the bosses in Brecilian Forest was a bit tough at Level 7 too.

I hope you realise that if you can't beat a boss in this game you should move on and come back as it is not game breaking. With that said, most bosses don't even require you to pot if you micromanage well, the more challenging ones will require you to chug a few and that is about it.

Modifié par billbro, 22 novembre 2009 - 12:15 .

[Mistersunshine]

Drink lots of health potions, and if you have anyone who can use bombs, those help too.

[slaveydavey]

I've yet to encounter a dragon. I'm scared already :-p

[Rayne Myria Solo]

this thread is a massive spoiler, and should not be in the general discussion (No Spoilers allowed) section of the forums...



That is all.

[Simulacrum]

spscarter wrote...

Dude, if you're having problems with a "duel wield" warrior and two mages in your party, you honestly might as well uninstall this game right now.

Oh please, enlighten me on how to play the game.

I'm finding it funny that nobody here is explaining at all on how they accomplish it. I figure you all just kite, as if that should be considered as a real win.

Modifié par Simulacrum, 22 novembre 2009 - 12:14 .

[Killyox the Defender]

Simulacrum wrote...

Simply put, I'm pissed. I'm pissed that I'm having so much trouble with dragon bosses that I hear people have beaten on the first try. Yeah right, and they are probably playing the most overpowered class, did research on the best party makeup, etc. and exploit that.

It comes down to this. I don't particularly enjoy doing extensive research on how to play the game the first time through. I just want to enjoy it. I've played enough RPGS and games in general to know my way around things. I'm not ignorant by any means. However, when I simply "can't" beat a boss, literally can't, there is a problem. I have my duel-wielding warrior, Alistar, Morrigan, and Wynne facing the High Dragon. I heal as best as I can but they all die, with little damage done to the thing. Why is this? I use my buffs, I heal constantly, I move my characters around in strategic positions (though it does little good), all spit back in my face. My characters are all around level 12, by the way. I hear someone beat Flemith as a level 8? What the **** is going on here?

The makers should've realized that most people will be picking up this game, making a class that appeals to them, and putting points and skills wherever seems most fun/interesting. If that actually hinders your playthrough of the game, that is simply bad design. I've never thought about simply quitting a game because of being fed up when I've put so much time in to it already. I never thought I would say it, but I'm disappointed with a Bioware game.

These forums are terrible too.

Rant over.

Stop being BAD, VERY BAD

i sarted the game at HARD on my first walkthrough and switched a lot of times to nightmare. Played 1 rogue [me] wynne alisair and leliana. Did ZERO reasearch. The reason i didnt suck as much as you is quite simple probably. This isnt my first RPG and unlike most 2000+ kids i havent started RPGs from oblivion but baldurs gate ID PS:T etc.

Use your brain instead of crying like a little girl. Game is actually quite easy regardless of difficulty.

[Zenthar Aseth]

... what's there to explain?



How I did it? I soloed both dragons in melee.

[Spaceweed10]

Simulacrum wrote...

Spaceweed10 wrote...

The reasons these forums are cr*p, is because of QQ threads like this.

I beat Flemeth first try with Wynne, Shale , Alistair, and my Rogue on 'Hard'.

It took a lot a micro management, but was a blast.

L2P and stop whining like a little girl.

Define "alot of micro management" to me. What exactly did you do to beat her? I can't even out-heal the High Dragons damage with two mages.

I think my point stands as valid, regardless. The difficulty needs to be addressed. I downloaded the patch as well.

Wynne's 'Regeneration' is probably the best pound for pound heal in the game.  I have Wynne programmed to regen Alistair @ 75% and heal him @ 50%.

Have Morrigan close by to hit the Dragon with 'Cone of Cold' if Alistair takes spike damage, which gives the regen time to take effect.

I also have Alistair programmed to take a healh pot if hit hits >25%.  Have Alistair also take a fire resist pot at the start of the fight.

Dude, you just have to put a bit of thought into the game, and use the tools provided for you.  If you feel so inclined, you can even cheese it with Morrigan, but it isn't necessary.  This particular spell I'm talking about I use as her own lifesaver, as it can trivialise the game if used on your tank...

[hexaligned]

Simulacrum wrote...

spscarter wrote...

Dude, if you're having problems with a "duel wield" warrior and two mages in your party, you honestly might as well uninstall this game right now.

Oh please, enlighten me on how to play the game.

I'm finding it funny that nobody here is explaining at all on how they accomplish it. I figure you all just kite, as if that should be considered as a real fight.

No, they are quite right, you don't even need A mage to beat him, let alone two.  If you can't faceroll the game with two mages in your parties, I really don't know what to tell ya.

[Killyox the Defender]

Simulacrum wrote...

spscarter wrote...

Dude, if you're having problems with a "duel wield" warrior and two mages in your party, you honestly might as well uninstall this game right now.

Oh please, enlighten me on how to play the game.

I'm finding it funny that nobody here is explaining at all on how they accomplish it. I figure you all just kite, as if that should be considered as a real win.

The reason why no1 tells you HOW to do certain fights is because:

1) this is NO SPOILER forums and thus revealing any info about game fights etc is forbiden in this section
2) a lot of fights require different strategy
3) different setups use different srategies but you can beat the game with all possible setups

[Spaceweed10]

Simulacrum wrote...

All you guys do is kite the thing, don't you?

Kiting is for noobs - I haven't kited a single mob in the entire game.  It isn't necessary.