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[Sajuro]

Hathur wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

United_Strafes wrote...

How sexist! Not including fictional female alien races, they should be ashamed!

Well, considering they're ignoring their own lore because females of the othe races aren't "sexy" in the typical sense...

... Yep.  Sexism.  Perhaps not intentionally, but the "no boobs, no dice" rule gets on my nerves.

Experienced somethin sort of related to this last week at work while visiting the break room... A couple of the guys where I work were huddled around their Xbox360 playing some Co-op Gears of War 3. Figured I'd watch them play a bit since I'm just a pc gamer and I was curious about the game.

Anyhow, they were playing sometype of co-op and one of the players could (or had to? not sure) play as a female character in the game.... they literally start arguing (at first playfully) about who should / had to play as the 'chick'... they were, for all intents and purposes, arguing who was the less "manly man" to determine who was stuck playing as the female character.

They finally decided Daniel was 'stuck' with playing the female character..... but suddenly throws a tirade right there, says "F-- this, I'm not playing as some girl. Amy can take my spot," then he shoves the controller in my hand and storms out of the room, LOL. 

I declined to play (dont know how to play with a game controller) but I was rather taken aback by his reaction to the idea of having to play as a female character (I still don't even know if it was optional or mandatory to play as a female character)... it seemed to be offending his very "manhood" to suggest he play a female character in the game.

To my point though... do you think this attitude amongst (some) men might have something to do with why Bioware may not give the option to choose gender in multiplayer (severely restrict) from a strictly cost / benefit perspective?

I have little experience interacting with / observing male gamers unfortunately so I'm not sure how prevalent this notion of playing as a female being undesireable / unwanted may be amongst them. Yet perhaps Bioware believes a majority of men don't / won't play a female so it isn't really worthwhile to spend additional time & resources providing more flexible options when it comes to species + gender options.

I dunno... just tossing around stuff that's rolling around in my brain over here.

That is not the norm at all, I'm sure plenty male gamers make female characters just so they can dress them up or look at their back all day, not that I'm one of those guys, nope I just do it for the characterization

[Gladegunner]

Personally, because Jennifer Hale is a great voice actress and its worth playing through the game (like 3 times) as a female. lol.

[SPACE_GREASER]

the female turians will be too busy calibrating me ...a sandwich!!! :)ahahahahahahhhaaaaa!!!!!

Modifié par neo7732, 12 octobre 2011 - 03:21 .

[Estelindis]

I tend to suspect that "all genders, all classes" probably means that one can play an asari of any class. Here's hoping that other female aliens become available, though.

[Hathur]

Saaziel wrote...

To bring it back to Mass effect , i think i never finished my Femshep run because of the Batarian recruiter on Omega for Archangel. Funny how a lot of female gamers thought it was a nice touch to differentiate them from Menshep. My reaction was : "Who you calling sweet cakes four eyes ? I ought to gauge them out of your skull with a spoon!"

I thought it might be annoying to get hit on virtually as well.

I can't speak for how that scene makes guys feels (in your case it sounds like it was an uncomfortable moment) but when I encountered it for the first time, I was delighted... it made me feel just a little empowered as a woman since my Shepard was able to stand up for herself in such an imposing (and humorous) manner and basically put the Batarian in his place (I speak to the: "Show me yours toughguy, I bet mine's bigger" line, of course).

In real life I'd never have the courage to respond that way to a guy if he said something like that to me... I'd just walk / run away without a word since I'd be too afraid of being beaten to a bloody pulp if I challenged him the way femshep does (I know, I know.. I'm a spineless coward... but I can't help it lol).... and unlike femshep who's pretty big for a female (she's just a touch shorter than the male Shepard), I'm just a piny mouse in comparison 

Another great example was dealing with Harkin in ME1 at the bar when looking for Garrus.... when my femshep told him: "I'd rather drink a cup of acid after chewing on a razor blade," after he told her to "sit your sweet little ass down," I was just giddy with how that ended... again (or rather, for the first time) she put a pig in his place and it felt great for me personally, since Shep was doing all the awesome stuff I could never have the courage / ability to do if it were me.

Although If you want to see an example where this backfired for me, I'll bring up Saints Row 2... this 1 scene unnerved me immensely at the time and I didn't sleep well at all that night... it was so brutally violent on my character and I couldn't help putting myself in her shoes, being the one getting nearly beaten to death (basically was watching my character endure one of my own worst personal fears)... if you're curious about the scene, you can see it here at the 22:00 mark

Overall I really like how Bioware treated the rare few incidents where Shepard's gender is a potential cause of confrontation, it was handled well in my opinion.
... And now I'll shutup... I'm just rambling on and on, no doubt boring people to death by now. 

Modifié par Hathur, 12 octobre 2011 - 03:24 .

[GodWood]

Hathur wrote...
Although If you want to see an example where this backfired for me, I'll bring up Saints Row 2... this 1 scene unnerved me immensely at the time and I didn't sleep well at all that night... it was so brutally violent on my character and I couldn't help putting myself in her shoes, being the one getting nearly beaten to death (basically was watching my character endure one of my own worst personal fears)... if you're curious about the scene, you can see it here at the 22:00 mark

Hmm, the tone of that scene is quite different with a female PC.

To be fair though, the b*tch did murder his gf.

[Jean]

Hathur wrote...


What happens if you start throwing female characters into their CODs multiplayer, their Halo multiplayer or their Mass Effect 3 co-op multiplayer.... is it somehow perceived as not acceptable to play the female character since their fellow men will snicker at them for being the "girl" ?

You can be a female in Halo Reach campaign and multiplayer and there are female characters in the series (Cortana, Kat, Miranda, Doctor Halsey)

Either way, female on xbox live, you're going to get swarmed by males.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

stickskills.com/2011/10/11/mass-effect-3-multiplayer-details-revealed/

This says you'll be able to choose male or female for any race

[Siansonea]

I want to play as an asari anyway, so I am rather unscrewed by the disparity in available species per gender—IF there still is one. In fact, if they do fill in the gaps, and we get female krogan, turians, salarians, and drell, then we ladies will have MORE options than the boys, since there aren't any male asari out there.

[JamieCOTC]

*For those wondering, you’ll also be able to choose your gender when choosing any class.
http://stickskills.c...tails-revealed/

edit: ninja'd

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 12 octobre 2011 - 04:20 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Siansonea II wrote...

I want to play as an asari anyway, so I am rather unscrewed by the disparity in available species per gender—IF there still is one. In fact, if they do fill in the gaps, and we get female krogan, turians, salarians, and drell, then we ladies will have MORE options than the boys, since there aren't any male asari out there.

Actually, I doubt there will be salarian males, so it might strike even.

Unless you want to see the mayor of Tupariville quashing opposition with Heavy Election Campaign.

[realguile]

GMagnum wrote...

yea they are but they're in the kitchen feeding da soldiers who go out and fight

lol

it'd be kind of cool if in between missions you had a socom 2 type mission breifing with female krogan fring up some eggs and bacon for the troops.

[didymos1120]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Actually, I doubt there will be salarian males, so it might strike even.

Why?  Not like they don't have models already.

[Inquisitor Recon]

didymos1120 wrote...
Why?  Not like they don't have models already.

I think she meant females.

[didymos1120]

ReconTeam wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
Why?  Not like they don't have models already.

I think she meant females.

OK, that makes much more sense.

[AdmiralCheez]

didymos1120 wrote...

OK, that makes much more sense.

I derped.

So, reading the article.  Apparently it doesn't matter, since you only select gender as a human :c

[Leonia]

Only as human?!

You humans are all racist AND sexist.

[Sajuro]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

OK, that makes much more sense.

I derped.

So, reading the article.  Apparently it doesn't matter, since you only select gender as a human :c

Sad Panda

[Inquisitor Recon]

Only as human or only humans have the option for both genders?

It will be a damn shame if I can't smash stuff as a krogan or turian.

[AdmiralCheez]

ReconTeam wrote...

Only as human or only humans have the option for both genders?

It will be a damn shame if I can't smash stuff as a krogan or turian.

The way the article phrased it, it looks like you can only select gender as a human.  For everyone else, it's a no go.

[Bogsnot1]

The article is based on info from a forumite, claiming to have an advanced copy of a December issue magazine.
I'd rate that info as less reliable than a $2 Rolex.

[Dominus]

Well....that blows. Nothing is necessarily final(yet), so it may or may not change along the course of development. I'll take what I can get...but yeah, that's too bad. :/