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[AdmiralCheez]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

The article is based on info from a forumite, claiming to have an advanced copy of a December issue magazine.
I'd rate that info as less reliable than a $2 Rolex.

I saw the scans.  It's legit.

[Leonia]

But to be fair, OXM has been wrong before.

[AdmiralCheez]

leonia42 wrote...

But to be fair, OXM has been wrong before.

Here's hoping, right?

Eh, whatever.  For the time being, major buzzkill.

[Bogsnot1]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...

The article is based on info from a forumite, claiming to have an advanced copy of a December issue magazine.
I'd rate that info as less reliable than a $2 Rolex.

I saw the scans.  It's legit.

Fair enough. I'll still be waiting for Bioware confirmation for any ofthe info before I update the FAQ thread though.

[Cutlass Jack]

happy_daiz wrote...
Asari commando? Yes, please.  

Well all asari go commando or so I hear.

[TexasToast712]

 Umm.....cry more? Play an Asari or a Human.

[SilentNukee]

111987 wrote...

stickskills.com/2011/10/11/mass-effect-3-multiplayer-details-revealed/

• Each class that you select from will allow you to select from a
  variety of races.  Ranging from the likes of a Krogan to a Drell, you’ll
  have a good bit of variety to choose from.  Yes, a drell, the same race
  as Thane from Mass Effect 2 (we’re excited).
• As you can probably figure, each class will allow you to possess
  “specific abilities” as well as the ability to upgrade a few.  Krogan
  soldiers were described as being able to use a charge attack to known
  down enemies, along with Soldiers being able to use the Omni-blade for a
  few rather lethal attacks.  For those wondering, you’ll also be able to
  choose your gender when choosing any class.

 I creamed my pants. 

[SilentNukee]

jreezy wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...

111987 wrote...

stickskills.com/2011/10/11/mass-effect-3-multiplayer-details-revealed/

• Each class that you select from will allow you to select from a
  variety of races.  Ranging from the likes of a Krogan to a Drell, you’ll
  have a good bit of variety to choose from.  Yes, a drell, the same race
  as Thane from Mass Effect 2 (we’re excited).
• As you can probably figure, each class will allow you to possess
  “specific abilities” as well as the ability to upgrade a few.  Krogan
  soldiers were described as being able to use a charge attack to known
  down enemies, along with Soldiers being able to use the Omni-blade for a
  few rather lethal attacks.  For those wondering, you’ll also be able to
  choose your gender when choosing any class.

 I creamed my pants. 

People say stuff like that here to show enthusiasm? And here I thought BSN had more class.

I sophisticatedly ejaculated natural lubrication from my genital area.

[Gladegunner]

SilentNukee wrote...

[*]I sophisticatedly ejaculated natural lubrication from my genital area.

Now that was classy.

[SilentNukee]

Gladegunner wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...

[*]I sophisticatedly ejaculated natural lubrication from my genital area.

Now that was classy.

[*]I thought so. 

[Leonia]

That was about my reaction as well but it seems we may be counting our chickens before they've hatched..

[Bekkael]

The first couple pages of this thread made me go then . I will now settle down into cautious optimism, and hope multiple races will have male and female to choose from. Nothing against Asari, but I was hoping for something more exotic...like a FemKrogan.

It's going to be a long wait until March.

[lovgreno]

Hathur wrote...
But what happens when you start throwing female characters into a Macho multiplayer game? Does that change things for men in the sense it is less appropriate or desireable for them? (I would love to hear input from the men on this, if you don't mind. Honestly curious).

With the right artists and writers a female can be badass enough to fit into the most macho game. I am certain that most male players like variation even if they may not personaly feel like playing a femaleish bunch of polygons. I think that both male AND female players likes to play around with the character creator to see what male AND female characters they can create. Anything that challenges the imagination and creativity of the player is often a popular part of a game.

So yes, I think slightly altering the male models of for example turians to make a female version could be a relatively easy way to include some variety in the game. And since more than half of us potential buyers are female I also think it may also generate profit.

Personaly I realy want to see a female turian badass delivering pain and chaos to the reapers...

[Han Shot First]

Estelindis wrote...

Given that many describe asari as not being truly female (in spite clearly have many feminine features), I'll be interested to see if we actually have the choice of playing non-asari female characters at all. As others have said, turians and quarians would make the most sense from a lore perspective.

The comment about the Asari not being truly female was from an interview by Casey Hudson, when IIRC he was defending Bioware not including same sex romances in ME2. If I remember right the point he was making was that Bioware didn't really have same sex romances in Mass Effect 1 either, because as an Asari Liara was neither truly male or female.

But, his comment conflicts with what we actually see and read in the game. The Asari are female by every definition of the term. They have breasts and since they give birth to young, female reproductive organs. They have bone and muscle structure similar to human females, female voice actors, and refer to themselves or other Asari as "she" and "her," or "mother" and "daughter." Their elders are called matriarchs and their deity is a godess. Even the codex refers to them as an "all female race."

In short, Casey Hudson may be a Bioware employee but in that instance he was dead wrong. When a dev's comments conflict with in game lore, the in game lore trumps dev comments in the hierarchy of canon IMO. The Asari are a mono-gendered species, and that gender is female.

But getting back on topic, if there are other female characters beyond humans and Asari, I agree that the Turians and Quarians make the most sense. Salarian and Krogan females are rare.

[SkittlesKat96]

They should put the female races in the game but they aren't...at least not in ME 3 from what we've heard.

Maybe they'll surprise us and tell us otherwise though. I doubt it since they've made it clear they aren't adding them...

[sorentoft]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Was it confirmed?!!!

BEST. GAME. EVER!

Like, 75% confirmed.  It didn't say "female turians" but it did say "all the genders, all the classes."

"Ooops, we forgot to mention you can only be human, krogan and asari."

Modifié par sorentoft, 12 octobre 2011 - 09:27 .

[Estelindis]

Han Shot First wrote...

The comment about the Asari not being truly female was from an interview by Casey Hudson, when IIRC he was defending Bioware not including same sex romances in ME2. If I remember right the point he was making was that Bioware didn't really have same sex romances in Mass Effect 1 either, because as an Asari Liara was neither truly male or female.

But, his comment conflicts with what we actually see and read in the game. The Asari are female by every definition of the term. They have breasts and since they give birth to young, female reproductive organs. They have bone and muscle structure similar to human females, female voice actors, and refer to themselves or other Asari as "she" and "her," or "mother" and "daughter." Their elders are called matriarchs and their deity is a godess. Even the codex refers to them as an "all female race."

In short, Casey Hudson may be a Bioware employee but in that instance he was dead wrong. When a dev's comments conflict with in game lore, the in game lore trumps dev comments in the hierarchy of canon IMO. The Asari are a mono-gendered species, and that gender is female.

But getting back on topic, if there are other female characters beyond humans and Asari, I agree that the Turians and Quarians make the most sense. Salarian and Krogan females are rare.

I didn't want to get into an argument about asari gender, since I actually agree with you; I was just pointing out a consistency problem on Bioware's part.  I also agree that it makes little sense to see salarian and krogan females on the battlefield.  :-)

[Eudaemonium]

Hathur wrote...
But what happens when you start throwing female characters into a Macho multiplayer game? Does that change things for men in the sense it is less appropriate or desireable for them? (I would love to hear input from the men on this, if you don't mind. Honestly curious).

I remember many years ago [when I was 8 - so about 19 years ago] I used to play Golden Axe on the MegaDrive (Genesis, if you're American). In that game you had 3 characters to choose from: the Barbarian, the Amazon, and the Dwarf (because 'Dwarf' was totally a class back then). It was only two-player, but I always used to get stuck playing the Amazon or the Dwarf, because literally everyone else who played (who were all male) would only ever play the Barbarian. I confess to feeling resentful at the time, 'How come they always get to be the manly guy and I don't?'. It was a concession I made in order to have gaming company. Ironic, really, because the Amazon and Dwarf are pretty-much better characters.

Anyway, my point was that as a young boy it felt emasculating to always be pushed into one of the 'lesser' roles. The Barbarian was centre-stage on the box, and was always the first one on the character select screen. He was like 'the main guy'. This was almost certainly a result of institutionalised sexism and other forms of prejudice, which I thankfully wised up to as I got older. I'm not sure exactly when my mentality started to shift. By the time my friends had me playing Streets of Rage 2 (woefully late) I was almost-always playing Blaze (the girl) over the other 3 playable characters. Once I started playing games with selectable gender, I 90% of the time choose female avatars (Baldur's Gate was the first, with Elmina the Half-Elven Fighter-Mage). I can almost guarantee that if I ever play Gears of War 3, I'll almost certainly be playing the girl (though I won't, since I don't own an X-Box). I have friends who will sometimes role female characters in order to look at them, but I tend to role them because I prefer playing as them, which is quite a different reason. A lot of my friends treat it as a quirk of my personality.

Anyway, my initial point was that to myself at a young age, being forced into a female role was something I disliked, found emasculating, etcetera. However, I outgrew it - something I don't believe a lot of men are actually taught to do. For a lot of men, being forced (I think force might actually be quite key here, more than we might think) to 'be the woman' is always experienced as a fundamentally emasculating experience. A lot of this might have to do with the kind of sexism endemic to a lot of gaming culture (and society more generally), coupled with the (not entirely separate) desire to impress one's peers in a competetive environment (and co-op is still competetive to a degree).

Amusingly, if my friend and I play Golden Axe now, he plays the Amazon and I play the Dwarf.

[Merchant2006]

You gotta remember that female salarians are ... well... the ratio for m:f most likely is 20:1. Or higher for M's. As for Krogan females, hurrrdurrrr considering the fact that we hardly see Krogan Females and that they have a different role in Krogan society i.e. BABBIE PRODUTION then I'm not considering all Krogan females to be front line warriors as they are valued beyond anything by the Krogans.

Female Turians and Humans? Why not. As for Asari, they don't count as they herpderphavenogender. Which is a load of nonsense as they make good sandwiches.

I'm sorry... sorry. I'll make my own sandwiches. I take that back.

[didymos1120]

Merchant2006 wrote...

You gotta remember that female salarians are ... well... the ratio for m:f most likely is 20:1.

Per the Codex, 90% of salarians are male.

[Bugsie]

NO FEMALE VORCHA?? WE KNOW BSN'S TRICKS!! WE RAGE QUIT!! WE LEAVE!!!

[Tonymac]

Sorry, you can't leave us buggy!

[Sebby]

Buggirl70 wrote...

NO FEMALE VORCHA?? WE KNOW BSN'S TRICKS!! WE RAGE QUIT!! WE LEAVE!!!

Female Biotic Vorcha would be epic beyond words.

[Zanallen]

Seboist wrote...

Female Biotic Vorcha would be epic beyond words.

Biotic vorcha/volus hybrid.