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Why hasn't Commander Shepard been indoctrinated?


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SandTrout

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Twistedfaith wrote...

There is a possible link between element-zero and the Reapers. So, what happens when Shepard blows one of them sky-high with an artillery strike -on- a planet? Everything dies if it contains a substancial ammount. - I cannot recall the name of the planet that was ruined by eezo, but yes, there has been a couple...Which, my fellow BSN'rs, is what the Reapers want. Destruction.

I have already debunked, rather thoroughly, the theory that the Earth would become uninhabitable due to eezo from dead Reapers. evidence does not support the theory and the calculated worst case scenarios is a brief slump in human population growth that will probably still remain possitive growth.

Also, the planet you're thinking of is Eingana, and not everything died there. There was an "extincition event" on the planet of unelaborated magnitude after an orbital battle between two species, but most of the ecosystem survived and many of the fauna now exhibit biotic tendencies.

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CptBomBom00

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But what if whole Earth is indoctrinated? what then?

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SandTrout wrote...

Timeframes don't match for known indoctrination patterns.

Even Grayson, who was directly injected with Reaper nanobots, resisted Indoctrination for several days, pushing a week, I think, before he was broken out.

Shepard never spent a significant amount of time continuously near indoctrinating technology until Arrival, and then it was, at most, about 2 days, which isn't enough to indoctrinate most people properly.

We are seriously talking about a cumulative total of maybe 3 days (outside estimate) of non-continuous exposure to a process that can take weeks to have a noticeable effect. No excuse is needed to explain why Shepard is not indoctrinated. They would need some sort of extra explanation if Shepard was indoctrinated (IE: Sovereign pieces used in Lazarus).


I could probably elaborate myself, but Sandtrout and others already explained it quite well.

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Another_Golden_Dragon

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As for Indoctrination Resistance: Shepard hasn't been near anything for a long enough time for anything to affect him/her more than a few impulses, which even today IRL Soldiers are trained to overcome. Shepard's brain would then heal itself after a few hours, thereby when the next time (s)he gets near something that can indoctrinate, the amount of time needed to indoctrinate Shepard has been pretty much reset.

Machines can not be indoctrinated in the same way that organics can. True. But Sovreign could have re-programed several hundred Geth. Proof: Legion's Loyalty Mission. I couldn't have been the only one to have listened to Legion, could I?

Indoctrination Devices: The field they generate may be proportional to their size. IE: the Indoctrination Devices from Arrival and the N7 side missions might have needed maybe 5-7 days to indoctrinate someone fully (and perhaps half again to turn someone into a Husk), but the Reaper IFF may need several months of being physically held by a person to even begin. And something the size of a golf ball might not even be able to affect a humanoid.

Cerberus rebuilt Shepard: Possible that shepard could be indoctrinated by that reaper tech (if it was used), but unlikely. TIM kept insisting that shepard be brought back EXACTLY as before. And if there were something, do you REALLY think that C-SEC captain that helps Shepard would really have done that? By-passing the year or more to re-instate credintials is one thing, but knowingly allowing someone with a control chip in the brain is something else. And Two Loyalty missions wouldn't be doable. Possible, but not likely.

Cerberus Hunting Shepard: Yes, of course they are going to! At the end of ME 2 you betray Cerberus in one of two ways: either by trying to take over or by getting kicked out. TIM is very mad about it either way. Not to mention a few other ways that you can betray them... (Uploading sentitive data to Allaince Command, shutting down Project Overlord ring bells? )