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Stanley Woo wrote...

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I guess they are too busy fixing SWtoR rather than fixing a 4 months old breaking game bug.

SWTOR is developed by BioWare Austin. Any fixes to that game would be developed by our austin studio. Dragon AGe II was developed by BioWare Edmonton. Any fixes to that game would be developed by us. We are working on a patch. We have not announced an ETA.

But we have looked in on this thread from time to time to try and get more information and reliable reproduction steps for the corrupt save game issue.


Thank you for finally giving us word on it.  Its appreciated, at least by me.  I'll be patiently waiting.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

Mayplay56 wrote...

I guess they are too busy fixing SWtoR rather than fixing a 4 months old breaking game bug.

SWTOR is developed by BioWare Austin. Any fixes to that game would be developed by our austin studio. Dragon AGe II was developed by BioWare Edmonton. Any fixes to that game would be developed by us. We are working on a patch. We have not announced an ETA.

But we have looked in on this thread from time to time to try and get more information and reliable reproduction steps for the corrupt save game issue.


It's nice to hear from a Bioware employee on the subject again.  It's encouraging to get an update every so often, even if the updates don't say much.  It helps you feel a little less forgotten. ;)

Like I said in an earlier post it's not the lack of a fix yet that was the most aggrivating it was wondering if the issue was still being addressed.  Anyway I appreciate you chiming in and giving us a brief update.  Dragon Age 2 was my favorite game last year (never understood the hate) and I thought both of the DLCs were fantastic.  Really want to play them again.

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Just came back to the forum after not checking it in a couple months and Im glad im not the only one with this issue...I was bumming pretty hard bc I thought I messed up my save data by backing it up on to an external HD, and have been dreading playing through all 3 characters again from scratch.

I was able to play MotA all the way through on all 3 hawke characters and all 3 are corrupted....not sure if it happened all at once or after each was completed.

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have patients, they said they are working on it, so I trust them.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

Mayplay56 wrote...

I guess they are too busy fixing SWtoR rather than fixing a 4 months old breaking game bug.

SWTOR is developed by BioWare Austin. Any fixes to that game would be developed by our austin studio. Dragon AGe II was developed by BioWare Edmonton. Any fixes to that game would be developed by us. We are working on a patch. We have not announced an ETA.

But we have looked in on this thread from time to time to try and get more information and reliable reproduction steps for the corrupt save game issue.


Don't suppose you could be a bit more informative with how it's going? Like is it a tough bug, but strides are being made even if it's a slow process? Or is it like trying to go through a dozen brick walls protecting two dozen reinforced steel walls using only your head as a means to break through? 

In that it's painful, not much progress will be made, and you're going need a few bottles of whiskey just to forget about it all.

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Just Checking in, any progress at all? Anything would be good.

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Kothos Kor-Torn wrote...

Just Checking in, any progress at all? Anything would be good.

Bioware responded a few days ago that they are still working on a patch but the eta is unknown atm.

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Finally had the problem crop up on my non-login non-pk1154 user ID.

Played MotA in Act II with Aveline and Isabela.

Played Legacy just before the end of Act III with (Circle) Bethany and left the Bloodline staff with her at end.

The Last Straw, Hawke, siding with the mages, gets file corruption in the Templar Hall saves with or without Bethany in the party.

Curiously, the last checkpoint save claims only corruption, while the earlier autosave claims that DLC content is missing (which is not the case).

With a Warden sibling, eliminating them from the final party seemed to solve the problem. Not so this time.

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Hmmm...same Hawke mentioned just above, ran through The Last Straw as a Templar supporter who spurned Circle Bethany. No corruption.

This isn't what I'd planned for this character, so I may try doing a whole lot of Act III over and either not take Bethany through Legacy or be sure to strip her of all DLC content before going back to Kirkwall.

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Hi everyone.

Some news: after investigating and monitoring the MotA save game corruption issue, we’ve decided that the best way to proceed is to remove that particular autosave. We’ll let you know when the fix is ready for release.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

Hi everyone.

Some news: after investigating and monitoring the MotA save game corruption issue, we’ve decided that the best way to proceed is to remove that particular autosave. We’ll let you know when the fix is ready for release.


Which autosave?  Because I have no issues with the saves IN the dlc, its afterwords when I reach the end of the game and am at the gallows right before entering templar hall, when your party gathers before fighting the boss fight there, that triggers every save from then on to corrupt.  Is it that autosave or is it one in the dlcs?   Have you tracked it to a specific save? 

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Stanley Woo wrote...

Hi everyone.

Some news: after investigating and monitoring the MotA save game corruption issue, we’ve decided that the best way to proceed is to remove that particular autosave. We’ll let you know when the fix is ready for release.


The update is appreciated. Know this: Fix the corruption bug, and I *will* purchase MotA. I enjoy the Dragon Age universe, and would love to have all of the DLC content that's available for Dragon Age II. All I'm missing is MotA and the second items pack (which I will also purchase upon MotA being fixed).

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Stanley Woo wrote...

Hi everyone.

Some news: after investigating and monitoring the MotA save game corruption issue, we’ve decided that the best way to proceed is to remove that particular autosave. We’ll let you know when the fix is ready for release.


Well, that brings to mind the old joke:
Patient: It hurts when I do this.
Doctor: Then don't do that!

Obviously, there is something 'special' going on in those last couple of end-of-act autosaves (else why would they be tagged as 'checkpoint' saves when you examine them in the PS3 menu).  Once you get one of the corrupt autosaves, your manual saves are also corrupt.  If these 'checkpoint' autosaves aren't made, then the manual ones will not be corrupt?

Here's the situation with the most recent Hawke I was fooling around with:
MotA, in Act II, with Aveline and Isabela
Legacy in Act III, just before The Final Straw
Bethany in the Circle.

Take Bethany through Legacy,  backing the mages. Auto and manual save corruption, with or without her in the active party. (I had left the Mage Pack accessories on her in Act I, but stripped all DLC items at the end of Legacy.) The post-campaign save is loadable, though, as are saves made afterward at the Black Emporium.

Take Bethany through Legacy, no corruption if backing the templars and allowing Bethany to be killed.

Don't take Bethany through Legacy, put her in the final party backing mages, no corruption.

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pk1154 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Hi everyone.

Some news: after investigating and monitoring the MotA save game corruption issue, we’ve decided that the best way to proceed is to remove that particular autosave. We’ll let you know when the fix is ready for release.


Well, that brings to mind the old joke:
Patient: It hurts when I do this.
Doctor: Then don't do that!

Obviously, there is something 'special' going on in those last couple of end-of-act autosaves (else why would they be tagged as 'checkpoint' saves when you examine them in the PS3 menu).  Once you get one of the corrupt autosaves, your manual saves are also corrupt.  If these 'checkpoint' autosaves aren't made, then the manual ones will not be corrupt?

Here's the situation with the most recent Hawke I was fooling around with:
MotA, in Act II, with Aveline and Isabela
Legacy in Act III, just before The Final Straw
Bethany in the Circle.

Take Bethany through Legacy,  backing the mages. Auto and manual save corruption, with or without her in the active party. (I had left the Mage Pack accessories on her in Act I, but stripped all DLC items at the end of Legacy.) The post-campaign save is loadable, though, as are saves made afterward at the Black Emporium.

Take Bethany through Legacy, no corruption if backing the templars and allowing Bethany to be killed.

Don't take Bethany through Legacy, put her in the final party backing mages, no corruption.



Did you have autosave enabled for all of these?  I'm thinking of trying to go through the endgame with autosave disabled and seeing if it makes a difference on mine since I'm really curious as to which autosave points they're talking about removing and whether those ones being removed will helpe everyone with the issue. I'd rather not replay Legacy and MotA again unless its confirmed to work for everyone.  Hopefully their fix will work.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

Hi everyone.

Some news: after investigating and monitoring the MotA save game corruption issue, we’ve decided that the best way to proceed is to remove that particular autosave. We’ll let you know when the fix is ready for release.

A fix would be much appreciated, as I'd love to go back and finish it officially.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

Hi everyone.

Some news: after investigating and monitoring the MotA save game corruption issue, we’ve decided that the best way to proceed is to remove that particular autosave. We’ll let you know when the fix is ready for release.


This may be a dumb question...but I assume once the save data file is corrupt it cannot become un-corrupted right? I saved all my games right after completing MoTA (which I had already beaten the game before this) and deleted the autosaved files to save space.

Just want to know if I should just delete them all and start fresh...would rather not though Image IPB

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Snake241079 wrote...

pk1154 wrote...

Obviously, there is something 'special' going on in those last couple of end-of-act autosaves (else why would they be tagged as 'checkpoint' saves when you examine them in the PS3 menu).  Once you get one of the corrupt autosaves, your manual saves are also corrupt.  If these 'checkpoint' autosaves aren't made, then the manual ones will not be corrupt?

Here's the situation with the most recent Hawke I was fooling around with:
MotA, in Act II, with Aveline and Isabela
Legacy in Act III, just before The Final Straw
Bethany in the Circle.

Take Bethany through Legacy,  backing the mages. Auto and manual save corruption, with or without her in the active party. (I had left the Mage Pack accessories on her in Act I, but stripped all DLC items at the end of Legacy.) The post-campaign save is loadable, though, as are saves made afterward at the Black Emporium.

Take Bethany through Legacy, no corruption if backing the templars and allowing Bethany to be killed.

Don't take Bethany through Legacy, put her in the final party backing mages, no corruption.


Did you have autosave enabled for all of these?  I'm thinking of trying to go through the endgame with autosave disabled and seeing if it makes a difference on mine since I'm really curious as to which autosave points they're talking about removing and whether those ones being removed will helpe everyone with the issue. I'd rather not replay Legacy and MotA again unless its confirmed to work for everyone.  Hopefully their fix will work.


Yes, I have autosaves enabled.  But I know there is something unique about the end-of-Act autosaves (and the Year Seven autosave, as well).  You may not be able to prevent them simply by disabling autosaves.  If you examine them using the PS3 Saved Data Utility, you will see that these end-of-Act autosaves are labeled as "[character] (Autosave) - Checkpoint" where a "normal" autosave is simply "[character] (Autosave)".

What's surprising (to me) is that these "checkpoint" autosaves being corrupted affects subsequent manual saves made prior to the end of the game, but not the automatic Post Campaign save!

I'm thinking that these "checkpoint" autosaves are the ones that the patch will eliminate.

Whatever is going on is the result of some mis-match between various DLC content that involves the Hawke siblings (but may also depend on the hardware/firmware of your PS3 and your own habits concerning inventory management). 

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Here is my corruption story

I finished MOTA at the end of act 1 without problem. At the end of act 2 I started playing Legacy and everything was fine until I reached the tower base.EVERY manual and auto-save after the tower base was automatically getting corrupted.I got tier and decide to beat the main game first and Legacy after so with a previous save I returned to Hawke state using the statue in Legacy.

Everything was fine until I reached the Towel hall or whatever the name is just before the fight with Mederith in the final quest.Doesn't matter what I do every save gets corrupted just like in Legacy tower base.

After 50 hours playing the game I wont start from the beginning this doesn't suppose to happen , I gained the full friendship of all my companions (excluding Sebastian but he doesn't matter to me anyway) and completed the full romance with Merril. All I can do now is wait for a damn patch , if they make a patch -_-.

Just in case this helps, when Carver left me in Act 1 he was equipped with dlc items but I never used him not even in Legacy .

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JEC94 wrote...

Here is my corruption story

I finished MOTA at the end of act 1 without problem. At the end of act 2 I started playing Legacy and everything was fine until I reached the tower base.EVERY manual and auto-save after the tower base was automatically getting corrupted.I got tier and decide to beat the main game first and Legacy after so with a previous save I returned to Hawke state using the statue in Legacy.

Everything was fine until I reached the Towel hall or whatever the name is just before the fight with Mederith in the final quest.Doesn't matter what I do every save gets corrupted just like in Legacy tower base.


I'm guessing that autosave at the tower base is one of those 'special' checkpoint saves...


After 50 hours playing the game I wont start from the beginning this doesn't suppose to happen , I gained the full friendship of all my companions (excluding Sebastian but he doesn't matter to me anyway) and completed the full romance with Merril. All I can do now is wait for a damn patch , if they make a patch -_-.


Did you manage to play through to the end?  I've noticed that the Post-campaign save is fine for me, even though all of the checkpoint and manual saves are corrupted.  (You may get a message about missing DLC content; ignore that and try loading again.)  Play on casual and cautiously (so you don't need a reload).

Just in case this helps, when Carver left me in Act 1 he was equipped with dlc items but I never used him not even in Legacy .


That's probably where the problem originates.  It just dawned on me that all my trouble-free games are all ones where I'd completed Act I before I'd bought any of the DLC item packs.

I've started another play-through where I've carefully stripped Hawke's sibling before the end of Act I.  (Previously, I'd let them walk off with their special accessories.)  This may make a difference (I won't hold my breath). I was interested in cooperating with Mother Petrice (never made that choice before) so two birds, one stone.  And I've been quite sick recently, so plenty of time to fool around with a game that I'm comfortable with.  (Not ready to start something new.)

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pk1154 wrote...

JEC94 wrote...

Here is my corruption story

I finished MOTA at the end of act 1 without problem. At the end of act 2 I started playing Legacy and everything was fine until I reached the tower base.EVERY manual and auto-save after the tower base was automatically getting corrupted.I got tier and decide to beat the main game first and Legacy after so with a previous save I returned to Hawke state using the statue in Legacy.

Everything was fine until I reached the Towel hall or whatever the name is just before the fight with Mederith in the final quest.Doesn't matter what I do every save gets corrupted just like in Legacy tower base.


I'm guessing that autosave at the tower base is one of those 'special' checkpoint saves...




After 50 hours playing the game I wont start from the beginning this doesn't suppose to happen , I gained the full friendship of all my companions (excluding Sebastian but he doesn't matter to me anyway) and completed the full romance with Merril. All I can do now is wait for a damn patch , if they make a patch -_-.


Did you manage to play through to the end?  I've noticed that the Post-campaign save is fine for me, even though all of the checkpoint and manual saves are corrupted.  (You may get a message about missing DLC content; ignore that and try loading again.)  Play on casual and cautiously (so you don't need a reload).



Just in case this helps, when Carver left me in Act 1 he was equipped with dlc items but I never used him not even in Legacy .


That's probably where the problem originates.  It just dawned on me that all my trouble-free games are all ones where I'd completed Act I before I'd bought any of the DLC item packs.

I've started another play-through where I've carefully stripped Hawke's sibling before the end of Act I.  (Previously, I'd let them walk off with their special accessories.)  This may make a difference (I won't hold my breath). I was interested in cooperating with Mother Petrice (never made that choice before) so two birds, one stone.  And I've been quite sick recently, so plenty of time to fool around with a game that I'm comfortable with.  (Not ready to start something new.)





I stripped Bethany at the end of Act 1 of all the dlc items, all items in general really, and I still got the corruption at the end of the game.  I stripped her at the end of Legacy and didn't use her again and still got the corruption at the end.  There has got to be a certain thing triggering it that is so stupidly obvious or very hard to notice that we're missing that causes it.    Hopefully them removing certain save points fixes it, but I'm not holding my breath.

And another thing is that my post campaign save is corrupted every time unlike yours, so somehow you just got lucky with something you did earlier in the game that prevented it from corrupting for you.. Makes me really wonder what it could possibly be since most people can't get the post campaign save to work either.

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I can't imagine what is causing this bug. I've somehow managed to avoid it on all three of my playthroughs so far. I can give what I did though, if it helps you figure out what key factor you're missing.
(I had autosave enabled on all of these)
On my first game, I completed core game before dlc was released. When the item pack came out I equipped the items on all my party members including Bethany. I went through legacy post game with Bethany with dlc armors and such. I upgraded my party when item pack 2 came out. When Mark of the Assassin came out, I didn't use Bethany because of Tallis taking a slot. This save came out fine.
On my second game, I also completed before dlc came out. I completed both dlcs without carver. Still using item packs.
On my third game, I started it before dlc released and quit halfway. I equipped item packs as I got them and did the two dlcs right before the last straw. I didn't use bethany for either dlc. Finished game fine without any corruption.

Just throwing it out there, but maybe it has to do with whether you started your game before or after the dlc was downloaded. All three of my saves were before. Although, I never completed another save after that, so I'm just guessing.

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I had all 3 saves completed before the DLC came out...then proceeded to complete all 3 MoTA games with autosave enabled. Once completed I saved the game over my original save (when back at the Hawke Estate) then deleted the autosave file from my PS3 as to leave only the one save file per character. went back a month later and all 3 were corrupted so I am not sure when or what caused this

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Sorry to beat a dead horse but...

I have Dragon Age II and all the DLC besides Mark of the Assassin. I have completed Legacy as a Mage, and I brought Carver with me. I don't recall if he has any DLC items on him...what are my chances of winding up with a corrupted save?

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TommyBrownell wrote...

Sorry to beat a dead horse but...

I have Dragon Age II and all the DLC besides Mark of the Assassin. I have completed Legacy as a Mage, and I brought Carver with me. I don't recall if he has any DLC items on him...what are my chances of winding up with a corrupted save?


Honestly no one really knows but I'd bet you have  good chance if you brought any DLC items from either of the two dlc weapon packs on him and were to play MotA.  Though no one is sure that the dlc items are the cause.  I removed all the dlc items from Bethany at the end of Legacy and I still get the corruption.  If you avoid MotA until the patch is released and can be confirmed to fix the issue then you probably won't get it at all though.

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Ah, yeah, that's what I meant..MotA DOES seem to be the common thread, yes? So if I just don't buy it (until Bioware hopefully fixes it), I should be good? Sorry for not being more clear...=P

Which sucks, as (not surprisingly) I'm a pretty big Bioware and Dragon Age fan.