When I said that people are weak, I know I sounded harsh. But in my view, we start out with a degree of weakness. I believe strength is earned, gained. It is earned through determination, through trials and fire. It starts with believing you are strong and making choices, but you won't be able to prove that until you start making choices for yourself, and actually work to get it.
In BOTH societies, Andrastrian and Qunari, people seek to have choices made for them so that they can avoid the pain of making possible mistakes, and deal with the responsibility and consequences of their chosen actions. I think it all boils down to fear of mistakes.
Andrastrians feel safe by letting a omnipresent, all seeing, Maker be the leader of their fates. Basically letting this Maker choose and decide their ultimate fates.
But I feel the Qunari are far more guilty at this.Tamasraans make all the significant choices for you. Not just your ultimate fate. They even plan and choose what you are meant to do before you were born.Speak with Sten if you can't take my word for it. Yes, the priestesses have the decency to evaluate you to see if their breeding program is successful for what they intended. If they see you are more apt for a different role, they set you up in it.
Here's the part where you get to say "Look Mom! No Choices!" as go down riding the bicycle down the road we call life:
It's still the Tamasraans' choice to place you where you go. They place you according to your aptitude... not your interest. Why do you think some Qunari would become unhappy with their roles and go Tal-Vashoth if they actually had the ability to choose? They really don't. What you are good at isn't always the same as what you like to do.
For example: I'm good at math, but I hate it. Let's pretend I'm a Qunari too. If they need someone to fill a role that requires high aptitude in math more than someone to fill an artistic role, what makes you think they won't go with the more efficient choice? The Qunari are all about efficiency, even more than happiness.
"Happiness is fleeting, only duty endures". -Sten
And the Qun places the society above the individual for the sake of the people as a whole. Duty to the people is far more important than an individual's happiness. They will do what they think is right for the good of the whole, which is above the happiness of one individual. Sincerely, I can't blame them. It does sound selfish that someone would not take a much needed role that they are good at just because he/she doesn't like it. I guess I would be selfish in that regard. I will not sacrifice my own happiness just to meet their standards of what they think is right for the society. I believe I have the right to choose how I can be useful for them.
How would you feel if you lived under the Qun and you were given a role that suits your aptitude but not your tastes? And that the role you would rather do is already covered and does not need more people in it?
I would just leave. Don't care if that brands me as Tal-Vashoth.
Remember: In Qunari society, Society >> Individual.
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As for how I feel about Tallis... Which is the true topic of this thread. Forgive me for deviating from it a little....
Tallis is sorta ok for me. She feels more like a semi recent convert, which is why she might seem as the most normal Qunari you could meet as TheGunslinger said. She is funny, I give you that. But she suffered a little from the one track mind syndrome most other DAII characters suffer. She took Fenris anti-mage opinions, took Anders' anti-Chantry system opinions, and found a way to summarize them both: Humans are evil. Great! Tallis is perfect for all classes! Because you will always be human, no matter the class!
Joking aside, one track minds make my eye twitch a little. I love Anders, I liked Fenris too. I wanted to slap them both. My thoughts were like this: "Shut up! Why can't you be like Sten and complain less?!" And about Merril. Yes, she seemed one track minded too, about that evil mirror thing. But since she wasn't as loud spoken about her problems as Fenris and Anders, I could tolerate her better.
Can I have Sten back? Too bad the devs told us that he was severely re educated when he came back to the Qunari lands. So his changed perceptions are most likely brainwashed out of his system.
Back to Tallis, I have problems separating Tallis from Felicia Day, knowing she was written by Felicia Day. It seems like role playing with Miss Day in a Dragon Age RP. Also having an actress become the poster face of your product is just a marketing ploy. For some reason, this turns me off. And I did like Felicia Day when she starred in her own show 'The Guild'. But it just doesn't feel right to me when she does it in someone else's story. I feel like she basically wrote fanfiction and was famous enough to have the devs write it into the game. Way to show off....Sorry, Ethereal, but I have issues with separating these two, and that takes away the feel of real Dragon Age writing for me. I know my opinion of Tallis/Felicia Day may sound silly to you, seeing how much you actually love them both.
On the physical, design. I have to hand it to them, making her look like Felicia Day while retaining the elven traits of the DAII design. Superb! I like how the Devs have basically proven that elves are still beautiful. That the new design didn't make them ugly. I would like to see more individualized, "original" (well, not really original considering they basically took Felicia's face and elvenized it, lol) designs like her. To see more variety in the character design. Hopefully for DAIII they will add different models for Kossith!
Anyways, I think I'll just leave it at that. If anyone wishes to continue sharing thoughts with me, I think its best to do so through PMs so I won't hijack this thread anymore.
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when did they say this? aww poor sten. 
