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[Vnnk]

Mako Zalos wrote...

So only six races we can be in CoOp. Well we know five what do you think the sixth will be.

Quarian I hopes. If so im gonna be an Quarrian Adept.

[Mako Zalos]

alex90c wrote...

Mako Zalos wrote...

So only six races we can be in CoOp. Well we know five what do you think the sixth will be.

humans
asari
krogan
turian
salarian
drell

there we go

Oh yeah humans. Forgot about them that sucks I was hoping we could also be at least Quarians, and Batarians, but hey there's always future DLC.

[Ancient Metal]

Mass Effect 3 is officially one of the biggest letdowns in the history of gaming.

[Someone With Mass]

Ancient Metal wrote...

Mass Effect 3 is officially one of the biggest letdowns in the history of gaming.

Keep telling yourself that while I'll enjoy a game for what it was always meant to be. Fun.

[JeffZero]

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/124225369959182336

"For best ending play multiplayer?"

"It's an alternative- possible to get best #ME3 ending through SP alone."

So does "best" not mean "the best" unless we've traveled a particular distance across the UK now as well?

[JeffZero]

Ancient Metal wrote...

Mass Effect 3 is officially one of the biggest letdowns in the history of gaming.

Cool. I'm glad you've moved on already. Seeya.

[FugitiveMind]

Usual disclaimers, this is OPINION

For those that need reference: 2min mark of video:
"Because it has been an integrated design effort, we've created something that is a cohesive experience between multiplayer and single player."
Definition 2 speaks volumes

Cohesive
adjective
1. characterized by or causing cohesion: a cohesive agent.
2. cohering or tending to cohere; well-integrated; unified

So far all that keep harping on "You don't have to play the MP to get the optimal ending" FINE. There's 1 ending you're guaranteed to get by avoiding MP. Of course optimal doesn't mean the same thing to everyone, so who's to say that's really true.

For those of us that play these games as a WHOLE EXPERIENCE, we're boned. The majority of us junkies don't play this game once for the "optimal" ending. We play it repeatedly to experience every facet the game has to offer. It's why people are still playing the first two games now, long after the bloopdie-bloop achievement popped up saying you completed the game (and in ME2 saved everyone for you optimal fiends). It's why people have 5-10 Shepards ready to import.

Hair after 1min:
"ME1 & 2 were about Commander Shepard and his small crew, this is really the beginning, middle, and end of the whole galactic war"

Of course now people have 5-10 Shepards to import only to find out that the game is no longer about Shepard. In order to distract people from this, you get shiny skins of different races to fight in. You're still random soldier 11876, but ooooooh it's a krogan. Otherwise read "Not Shepard". Your 80+ hours of time and emotional investment mean squat while you have to spend integrated and unified time fragging cerberus with PotMonkey420, xXxX1447SnIpErXxXx, and Zephiiiiroth (but at least you're a Turian while you do it) in order to see and experience the game in its entirety.

Scream "You don't have to play it" all you want: Cohesive... Integrated... Unified... If you want to see and experience the game as a whole yes you do

Now believe it or not, I'm not against MP. I think that all these MP ideas are good, and could make for an enjoyable experience. JUST NOT HERE. I'm on the Mass Effect train because I want to finish the story of my Shepard(s) in the plethora of ways I have set them all up by the way I've had them behave through multiple games, not so I can have them shunted aside by infinite cerberus slaughter mode, or have it affected by my indavertant playing of a map as Asari Commando 6791.

[didymos1120]

Ancient Metal wrote...

Mass Effect 3 is officially one of the biggest letdowns in the history of gaming.

Um...so I take it you are the official who certified its letdown status?  What does that entail, exactly?  Like, getting your notary's license or something? 

Modifié par didymos1120, 12 octobre 2011 - 09:43 .

[darthnick427]

 I'm just wondering if someone can answer me this: when doing multiplayer, are you doing missions that Shepard could be doing? and if so does that mean if you do the mission in multiplayer, can Shepard not do them in single player now?

Basically I'm asking: If I play multiplayer am I taking missions out of Shepard's story?

Because if I am taking missions out of Shepard's story, that's annoying. Shepard can do that himself. If the missions are exclusive to multiplayer but help your single player story that's awesome.

[JeffZero]

I definitely didn't taken Hudson's PR about how the first two games are about Shepard and his small crew while the third is a huge war to mean that suddenly the main thrust of the game would not longer be about Shepard. What exactly were you hoping for in ME3, another (relatively) small-scale encounter?

[spirosz]

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/124225369959182336
"For best ending play multiplayer?"

"It's an alternative - possible to get best #ME3 ending through SP alone."



I wish I could make the font bigger on the bolded part. 

[jds1bio]

So I watched the video.

"If you haven't played a game in the Mass Effect series before, Mass Effect 3 is really a great place to start."

Having played ME1 or ME2, I don't see how this is possible - UNLESS the ME newbie is invited to play co-op by a ME veteran, and assist the ME veteran in bolstering the veteran's single-player "readyness" level.  That could work.

Otherwise, still curious about the multiplayer add-ons.  The FAQ reads more like a list of principles rather than a list of gameplay features.  Having to support four platforms of multiplayer out of the box is a tall order, will each platform get full support?

People working until the wee hours of the morning because they are "excited" - is that really it?  Is there room for rest so that the next great ideas have a chance to germinate, and is there enough energy left to pay proper attention to single-player?

How much will ME3 cost to the player after all is said and done?  Story DLC, weapon DLC, costume DLC, and now multiplayer DLC - and will all this end up being a better experience, and easier on the wallet, than The Old Republic?

As for the host of the video - ditch the virtual set and surround yourself with gamers or local college students, like Mario Lopez does on Extra - it will increase both your stud and street cred at the same time.

[JeffZero]

darthnick427 wrote...

 I'm just wondering if someone can answer me this: when doing multiplayer, are you doing missions that Shepard could be doing? and if so does that mean if you do the mission in multiplayer, can Shepard not do them in single player now?

Basically I'm asking: If I play multiplayer am I taking missions out of Shepard's story?

Because if I am taking missions out of Shepard's story, that's annoying. Shepard can do that himself. If the missions are exclusive to multiplayer but help your single player story that's awesome.

They're exclusive, although I'd say most of them will probably be maps based on locations Shepard has trekked. We've been told you'll often be part of a Special Forces squadron 'a heartbeat behind Shepard'. It's also been stated that while Shepard may be the one to liberate various quadrants of the galaxy, the co-op campaign involves defending those places from the ever-looming threat of the ongoing war.

[Illusive]

darthnick427 wrote...

 I'm just wondering if someone can answer me this: when doing multiplayer, are you doing missions that Shepard could be doing? and if so does that mean if you do the mission in multiplayer, can Shepard not do them in single player now?

Basically I'm asking: If I play multiplayer am I taking missions out of Shepard's story?

Because if I am taking missions out of Shepard's story, that's annoying. Shepard can do that himself. If the missions are exclusive to multiplayer but help your single player story that's awesome.

No, neither Shepard nor the squadmates will even be seen in the GAW mode. You take control of generic soldiers in the conflicts. The missions are exclusive to MP (or solo), and can help your single player Shepard if you wish it.

[JeffZero]

@jds1bio

It's a buzz term. "This is a great place to begin!" and its previously-used, more-ridiculous cousin, "this is the best place to begin!" are going to get flung around in marketing all the way through to March because this is an industry and success is often measured by how much better your sales are than the last time. If Hudson kept saying "this is a terrible place to begin!" he'd be out of a job.

[JD196]

darthnick427 wrote...

 I'm just wondering if someone can answer me this: when doing multiplayer, are you doing missions that Shepard could be doing? and if so does that mean if you do the mission in multiplayer, can Shepard not do them in single player now?

Basically I'm asking: If I play multiplayer am I taking missions out of Shepard's story?

Because if I am taking missions out of Shepard's story, that's annoying. Shepard can do that himself. If the missions are exclusive to multiplayer but help your single player story that's awesome.

Exclusive missions I believe. Shepard fights the big story based missions. Multiplayer is the no less important to the war but not as story driven missions.  

[darthnick427]

JeffZero wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

 I'm just wondering if someone can answer me this: when doing multiplayer, are you doing missions that Shepard could be doing? and if so does that mean if you do the mission in multiplayer, can Shepard not do them in single player now?

Basically I'm asking: If I play multiplayer am I taking missions out of Shepard's story?

Because if I am taking missions out of Shepard's story, that's annoying. Shepard can do that himself. If the missions are exclusive to multiplayer but help your single player story that's awesome.

They're exclusive, although I'd say most of them will probably be maps based on locations Shepard has trekked. We've been told you'll often be part of a Special Forces squadron 'a heartbeat behind Shepard'. It's also been stated that while Shepard may be the one to liberate various quadrants of the galaxy, the co-op campaign involves defending those places from the ever-looming threat of the ongoing war.

Thanks dude! I'm now offically psyched for multiplayer!!! Time for my Turian Vanguard to kick some ass!! or maybe he'll be an engineer.....or a soldier....or a Krogan...Damn it too many options!! All hail Bioware. Only they could make multiplayer for mass effect awesome.

[Someone With Mass]

JeffZero wrote...

@jds1bio

It's a buzz term. "This is a great place to begin!" and its previously-used, more-ridiculous cousin, "this is the best place to begin!" are going to get flung around in marketing all the way through to March because this is an industry and success is often measured by how much better your sales are than the last time. If Hudson kept saying "this is a terrible place to begin!" he'd be out of a job.

It's also a way to convince some people to buy the other games as well, as most people that started with ME2 did.

[Killjoy Cutter]

JD196 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

That's a very fine line to cut. 

How so?

It would take a very deft touch and great care to have MP greatly enhance the SP campaign, but not have the SP campaign affected by the MP.  

[Thompson family]

spiros9110 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/124225369959182336
"For best ending play multiplayer?"

"It's an alternative - possible to get best #ME3 ending through SP alone."



I wish I could make the font bigger on the bolded part. 

spiro9110 is right. See here, buried deep in this article:

"Of
course, as noted before, how well you do in the multiplayer can go
toward your progression in the single-player, which offers an
alternative for gamers looking to save the galaxy without having to
perform every little task as Shepard." [emphasis added]

If you are a completionist single-player like me and want to do a bunch of little side quests to improve your chances, you'll do fine. If you want to skip the errand-running and go to combat, now you can play it your way too.

If this can go split-screen on Xbox 360, I might even get another Xbox 360 for this and play with my son. He's got all the button-mashing skills we need.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Mako Zalos wrote...

alex90c wrote...

Mako Zalos wrote...

So only six races we can be in CoOp. Well we know five what do you think the sixth will be.

humans
asari
krogan
turian
salarian
drell

there we go

Oh yeah humans. Forgot about them that sucks I was hoping we could also be at least Quarians, and Batarians, but hey there's always future DLC.

Funny that they'd go with Drell over Quarians...   Not that I think that Drell are a bad idea, but the Quarians are a lot more pivotal and iconic to the ME setting. 

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 12 octobre 2011 - 10:03 .

[TheGreenAlloy]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Ancient Metal wrote...

Mass Effect 3 is officially one of the biggest letdowns in the history of gaming.

Keep telling yourself that while I'll enjoy a game for what it was always meant to be. Fun.

[jds1bio]

Thompson family wrote...

spiros9110 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/124225369959182336
"For best ending play multiplayer?"

"It's an alternative - possible to get best #ME3 ending through SP alone."



I wish I could make the font bigger on the bolded part. 

spiro9110 is right. See here, buried deep in this article:

"Of
course, as noted before, how well you do in the multiplayer can go
toward your progression in the single-player, which offers an
alternative for gamers looking to save the galaxy without having to
perform every little task as Shepard." [emphasis added]

If you are a completionist single-player like me and want to do a bunch of little side quests to improve your chances, you'll do fine. If you want to skip the errand-running and go to combat, now you can play it your way too.

If this can go split-screen on Xbox 360, I might even get another Xbox 360 for this and play with my son. He's got all the button-mashing skills we need.

Yeah, this sounds to me like some gamers didn't do all the recruit/loyalty missions in ME2, and won't want to in ME3 either, but would rather grind it out some other way and still get all the ship/weapon/readiness upgrades.

[TheGreenAlloy]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Mako Zalos wrote...

alex90c wrote...

Mako Zalos wrote...

So only six races we can be in CoOp. Well we know five what do you think the sixth will be.

humans
asari
krogan
turian
salarian
drell

there we go

Oh yeah humans. Forgot about them that sucks I was hoping we could also be at least Quarians, and Batarians, but hey there's always future DLC.

Funny that they'd go with Drell over Quarians...   Not that I think that Drell are a bad idea, but the Quarians are a lot more pivotal and iconic to the ME setting. 

Source, Alex?

[RamirezWolfen]

TheGreenAlloy wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Ancient Metal wrote...

Mass Effect 3 is officially one of the biggest letdowns in the history of gaming.

Keep telling yourself that while I'll enjoy a game for what it was always meant to be. Fun.

WIN