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N7Infernox wrote...

One thing i don't get is why people with negative/ whiny remarks thinks anyone else gives a hoot. I guess misery just loves company.

That, or there's just a lot of trolls.


^ Well, we know there's at least one troll... 

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 12 octobre 2011 - 10:35 .


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Lunatic LK47 wrote...

Calling it: Life span is 2 MONTHS.


What's the point of this?  I mean, if you just so happened to have guessed correctly come the day, what does it avail you?  Not like you predicted the existence of Pluto based on orbital perturbations. You just threw out a nice round number that countless others have also "called" on some internet forum.

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Still awaiting any form of answer about my question.

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Gatt9 wrote...

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I'm not sure if BioWare is a developer who developes for players like myself anymore. This game seems specifically designed for the immature teenage crowd.


Immature is an overgeneralized value statement. But it is true that they have to add features for the younger crowd. As the pool of older gamers gets smaller, and production costs go up, theyhave to do this to hang around. And study after study shows that - in aggregate - younger players greatly value multiplayer.

The challenge is for BioWare to introduce this feature without alienating the single player crowd (and from what they have been saying at GDC Online this week, they are very aware of the pitfalls of alienating the evangelistic fans). But too many people are acting like this is squaring the circle and that it can never be done.


The problem is,  this is an EA mandated feature so that they can force used game buyers to pay them for an online pass.  Generally speaking,  when a suit forces a feature on you,  it does not end well.  I'm not seeing a reason for this to be any different.

Also,  statistically,  the younger crowd is the minority,  the average gamer has been over 30 for at least a decade,  and currently is over 35.  So designing to teenagers is shooting yourself in the foot.


I'd like a source for this, please. I think I know what study you're referring to here but I also recall quite a bit of red tape attached to it.

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

N7Infernox wrote...

One thing i don't get is why people with negative/ whiny remarks thinks anyone else gives a hoot. I guess misery just loves company.

That, or there's just a lot of trolls.


^ Well, we know there's at least one troll... 


Trolls are people who post inflammatory remarks to get a reaction out of others.

How was that inflammatory?

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I posted earlier about MP and the single player, i was inferring based on previous co-op and single player games. You guys said I don't know how to read, you obviously don't know how to think. With the story telling of bioware and the huge universe that is mass effect, you don't think these fully customizable characters are going to be in anyway related to the plot? If your only reason is because Casey Hudson didn't say it was look at ME3s MP; he said there wouldn't be MP. The alliance is the only possible lead to having such diverse characters with powers (specters).
So please stop talking like such arrogant ****s who know everything and are intellectually superior to everyone here. We're not stupid we all play Bioware not Cod we aren't idiots and this isn't facebook so stop yelling.

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First we got presenter that patented words "awesome" and "button" in most laughable way on internet, and managed to present himself in not very, uhm,bright  light with "no one cares about 30,000 books in DAO".


That's entirely not relevant to the actual content.  I mean, unless you're just saying you'd prefer someone else, but it doesn't really seem like you're saying that.  You instead seem to be going for some sort of guilt-by-association-with-the-awesome-button thing.

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RamirezWolfen wrote...

Trolls are people who post inflammatory remarks to get a reaction out of others.

How was that inflammatory?


INCORRECT! As Killjoy will likely agree, trolls are people who have opinions you don't like.

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I have a feeling EA made it become a feature as well. It was also definitely the reason for the delay.

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So from what I gathered there are 6 races available in GaW (heard it in an interview)
1. Turians
2. Salarians
3. Krogan
4. Humans
5. Asari
6. Drell (while we haven't seen them, Casey said that you can)

But come on, where's the Geth love, Bioware? :crying:

Modifié par SkywardDescent, 12 octobre 2011 - 10:43 .


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jake112296 wrote...

I posted earlier about MP and the single player, i was inferring based on previous co-op and single player games. You guys said I don't know how to read, you obviously don't know how to think. With the story telling of bioware and the huge universe that is mass effect, you don't think these fully customizable characters are going to be in anyway related to the plot? If your only reason is because Casey Hudson didn't say it was look at ME3s MP; he said there wouldn't be MP. The alliance is the only possible lead to having such diverse characters with powers (specters).
So please stop talking like such arrogant ****s who know everything and are intellectually superior to everyone here. We're not stupid we all play Bioware not Cod we aren't idiots and this isn't facebook so stop yelling.


I'm sorry, what?

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Ancient Metal wrote...

I have a feeling EA made it become a feature as well. It was also definitely the reason for the delay.


Bioware said it wasn't the reason.

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DaringMoosejaw wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

Trolls are people who post inflammatory remarks to get a reaction out of others.

How was that inflammatory?


INCORRECT! As Killjoy will likely agree, trolls are people who have opinions you don't like.


That should be the new definition.

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Gatt9 wrote...

Also,  statistically,  the younger crowd is the minority,  the average gamer has been over 30 for at least a decade,  and currently is over 35.  So designing to teenagers is shooting yourself in the foot.


That number is on the consoles. It is very different in PC land. I do outreach with middle schoolers and a lot of them are gamers online (though their favorite game is MineCraft).

But the bigger problem is that the average you are citing is now higher than it was when the X Box first launched. And that is precisely the problem.

Plus those numbers get skewed by things like sports gamers, which might as well be a hobby with no overlap with BioWare.

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MP is going to be on ME3 so stop whining about it. Let's discuss the details of it and how we it will intertwine with the universe, because Hudson was very vague in the interview.

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RamirezWolfen wrote...

Ancient Metal wrote...

I have a feeling EA made it become a feature as well. It was also definitely the reason for the delay.


Bioware said it wasn't the reason.


I wouldn't bother.

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jake112296 wrote...

I posted earlier about MP and the single player, i was inferring based on previous co-op and single player games. You guys said I don't know how to read, you obviously don't know how to think. With the story telling of bioware and the huge universe that is mass effect, you don't think these fully customizable characters are going to be in anyway related to the plot? If your only reason is because Casey Hudson didn't say it was look at ME3s MP; he said there wouldn't be MP. The alliance is the only possible lead to having such diverse characters with powers (specters).
So please stop talking like such arrogant ****s who know everything and are intellectually superior to everyone here. We're not stupid we all play Bioware not Cod we aren't idiots and this isn't facebook so stop yelling.


Carry on.

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Ancient Metal wrote...

I have a feeling EA made it become a feature as well. It was also definitely the reason for the delay.


Care to show any reliable proof for that statement? Because people have tweeted about how the delay was not because of the multiplayer (four months won't matter that much) since it was developed by a different studio.

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ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

Geez, the sense of entitlement of people on game specific forums.  For most people, co-op is the only kind of multiplayer they wanted in Mass Effect, at least for the Shepard trilogy. 

And even if it was competitive multiplayer, it's optional.  Don't like it, don't touch it.  Why people let personal preferences get in the way of providing more options for people to be entertained by a product meant to entertain is beyond me.  Fandom is ridiculous.

Personally, co-op is what I wanted if Bioware was going to do it, and now that I know they are, I'm hyped.  The core team isn't bogged down with multiplayer, they have EA behind them to instruct them in maintaining the online experience so it doesn't devolve into a buggy mess like Metal Gear Solid 4's multiplayer unfortunately became, and it's entirely optional with some ramifications on the single player mode if you bother to invest in co-op to make your life easier.

It's really a win/win, especially since the main team isn't taking resources away from single player for cooperative play.


So multiplayer takes up no room on the disks?  Nothing got excised from the single player campaign to make room for it?  If there had been a delay in MP that kept it out of ME3 would the single player game still have shipped as-is?

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I imagine the lack of quarians and geth in the MP is due to a choice you're going to have to make in the SP. It's quite possible one or the other is going to want nothing to do with you if the Tali/Legion setup at the end of ME2 is any indication.

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looks promising i am sure there will be more videos and a few changes yet we still have time before release, so stop fighting before Chris or another Dev have to lock the thread. I mean really people we are all adults or should be acting like it.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Ancient Metal wrote...

I have a feeling EA made it become a feature as well. It was also definitely the reason for the delay.


Care to show any reliable proof for that statement? Because people have tweeted about how the delay was not because of the multiplayer (four months won't matter that much) since it was developed by a different studio.


He isn't going to provide proof, he's just going to tell you it's 'obvious' and proceed to post various forms of disgruntlement here and in other threads until he gets bored and leaves.

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didymos1120 wrote...

tariq071 wrote...

First we got presenter that patented words "awesome" and "button" in most laughable way on internet, and managed to present himself in not very, uhm,bright  light with "no one cares about 30,000 books in DAO".


That's entirely not relevant to the actual content.  I mean, unless you're just saying you'd prefer someone else, but it doesn't really seem like you're saying that.  You instead seem to be going for some sort of guilt-by-association-with-the-awesome-button thing.


I do expect someone with certain level of credibility and/or knowledge of the topic to show me the case,so i can actually trust the presentation, true. But that's not main topic here and won't be bothered to elaborate on it further.

In any case i will refer to my last post about no one would have any issue with Co-op /MP ifd they didn't entangle additional complications in it.I don't think it's right in so many ways.But again, it's just my opinion.

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Can someone give me the linke where it's stated that the 6 species are asari, turian, krogan, salarian, drell and humans? I read an article about MP, but I didn't find anything about the species.
While I'm not going to play it (I prefer Krogan, Turian and Salarian), I don't understand why Bioware would choose drells over quarians. They have even both the female and male model made, while they should make the drell female model (if they'll even do that).


It's in the latest BioWare Pulse episode, I think.


Really? The one with Casey Hudson interview? I watched, but I don't remember that he said something about the species we can choose. I'm going to watch it again.