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[JeffZero]

jake112296 wrote...

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Ah, I'll take a look when I get the chance.

[RamirezWolfen]

JeffZero wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

Ancient Metal wrote...

I have a feeling EA made it become a feature as well. It was also definitely the reason for the delay.

Bioware said it wasn't the reason.

I wouldn't bother.

At this point, you're right.

[didymos1120]

Ancient Metal wrote...

I have a feeling EA made it become a feature as well. It was also definitely the reason for the delay.

Why do so many assume there must always be one true and single reason behind, well, just about anything?  Especially when we're talking about the actions of a large corporate bureaucracy.

[Vayrand]

I was skeptical at first about multiplayer, after all they could have just made a separate multiplayer co-op game in a form like Borderlands, one that I would have most likely pre-ordered right away.

As long as it stays optional and something you can do for fun or whatever other reasons, that's fine. What I want to know and some here is, would I be missing out on any potential important cut scenes or story/background info if I choose not to play the multiplayer mode in full. I'm a completionist nut and I wouldnt like having to play multiplayer to get 100% for my playthroughs.

I'm hoping AI bots will be available as well, when you can't get enough friends to join or when you just want to have fun on your own for a while. Would be nice when I play at the odd times where I don't have to pester my friends who have the game to get on to play with me =P

I highly doubt BioWare would remove the multiplayer functions at this stage, so the best thing we all can do now is just provide some ideas and try to make the co-op as good as it can be. Anyway looking forward to what other new info they toss out to us between now and the next few months =D

*apologies in advance if I anger or offend anyone*

Modifié par Vayrand, 12 octobre 2011 - 10:53 .

[The Elder King]

SkywardDescent wrote...

So from what I gathered there are 6 races available in GaW (heard it in an interview)
1. Turians
2. Salarians
3. Krogan
4. Humans
5. Asari
6. Drell (while we haven't seen them, Casey said that you can)

But come on, where's the Geth love, Bioware?

I could've undestand the lack of Geth, since they have different model for different classes, and because they can't bring biotic classes (though I'd love to play as a Geth), but I don't get why dey don't use Quarians.

[JeffZero]

iakus wrote...

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

Geez, the sense of entitlement of people on game specific forums.  For most people, co-op is the only kind of multiplayer they wanted in Mass Effect, at least for the Shepard trilogy. 

And even if it was competitive multiplayer, it's optional.  Don't like it, don't touch it.  Why people let personal preferences get in the way of providing more options for people to be entertained by a product meant to entertain is beyond me.  Fandom is ridiculous.

Personally, co-op is what I wanted if Bioware was going to do it, and now that I know they are, I'm hyped.  The core team isn't bogged down with multiplayer, they have EA behind them to instruct them in maintaining the online experience so it doesn't devolve into a buggy mess like Metal Gear Solid 4's multiplayer unfortunately became, and it's entirely optional with some ramifications on the single player mode if you bother to invest in co-op to make your life easier.

It's really a win/win, especially since the main team isn't taking resources away from single player for cooperative play.

So multiplayer takes up no room on the disks?  Nothing got excised from the single player campaign to make room for it?  If there had been a delay in MP that kept it out of ME3 would the single player game still have shipped as-is?

New DRM protocols have given the 360 discs -- the biggest problem with packing things in to-date -- an extra gigabyte of space. The developers have also confirmed that they've been given the opportunity to work with this extra gig for ME3.

[Wulfram]

SkywardDescent wrote...

So from what I gathered there are 6 races available in GaW (heard it in an interview)
1. Turians
2. Salarians
3. Krogan
4. Humans
5. Asari
6. Drell (while we haven't seen them, Casey said that you can)

But come on, where's the Geth love, Bioware?

Lack of Quarians is surprising, since they've got both male and female models ready to go.  And lots of people seem to like them.

Possibly this reflects them and the Geth's role in the story?  If they're not necessarily part of the alliance against the reapers...

[jake112296]

@HHH89 under the video he says Turians, Krogans, Asari are playable we also see salarins and he mentioned drell on twitter i think don't count any thing out just go off humanoid races that are important and alliance species .

[didymos1120]

tariq071 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

tariq071 wrote...

First we got presenter that patented words "awesome" and "button" in most laughable way on internet, and managed to present himself in not very, uhm,bright  light with "no one cares about 30,000 books in DAO".

That's entirely not relevant to the actual content.  I mean, unless you're just saying you'd prefer someone else, but it doesn't really seem like you're saying that.  You instead seem to be going for some sort of guilt-by-association-with-the-awesome-button thing.

I do expect someone with certain level of credibility and/or knowledge of the topic to show me the case,so i can actually trust the presentation, true. But that's not main topic here and won't be bothered to elaborate on it further.

And that would have been Casey Hudson, the guy doing the vast majority of the talking in that video, and not Silverman, who just gave a brief intro spiel.

[Dragoonlordz]

Wulfram wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

So from what I gathered there are 6 races available in GaW (heard it in an interview)
1. Turians
2. Salarians
3. Krogan
4. Humans
5. Asari
6. Drell (while we haven't seen them, Casey said that you can)

But come on, where's the Geth love, Bioware?

Lack of Quarians is surprising, since they've got both male and female models ready to go.  And lots of people seem to like them.

Possibly this reflects them and the Geth's role in the story?  If they're not necessarily part of the alliance against the reapers...

Also where are my beloved Rachni!

[RamirezWolfen]

Wulfram wrote...

SkywardDescent wrote...

So from what I gathered there are 6 races available in GaW (heard it in an interview)
1. Turians
2. Salarians
3. Krogan
4. Humans
5. Asari
6. Drell (while we haven't seen them, Casey said that you can)

But come on, where's the Geth love, Bioware?

Lack of Quarians is surprising, since they've got both male and female models ready to go.  And lots of people seem to like them.

Possibly this reflects them and the Geth's role in the story?  If they're not necessarily part of the alliance against the reapers...

Maybe they'll say we can play as them later (I hope)?

[sylvianfan]

What I've seen so far looks absolutely terrible. How much disc space is being taken from the proper game so this can be tacked on?

[Splinter Cell 108]

SkywardDescent wrote...

So from what I gathered there are 6 races available in GaW (heard it in an interview)
1. Turians
2. Salarians
3. Krogan
4. Humans
5. Asari
6. Drell (while we haven't seen them, Casey said that you can)

But come on, where's the Geth love, Bioware?

What about Batarians? Are they going to be in?  I'd be disappointed if they don't appear at all.

[JeffZero]

There's plenty of time left between now and launch. I think people are jumping the gun a bit by stating that the quarians are not in the co-op game based on what we've seen. There are going to be all sorts of new informations bits both big and small between now and March.

That said, if they aren't present at launch the odds are they'll be DLC. I don't personally believe the geth/quarian conflict will be firmly resolved as a strictly one-or-the-other instance; the opportunity to resolve Tali and Legion's spat in ME2 peacefully always causes Shepard to smile in an almost Trekkian manner and I maintain my belief there will be a similar opportunity for a farewell to arms in ME3.

[HWM Sarge]

@Wulfram

I think it's more likely that they aren't available for these types of missions. We encounter Turians, Asari, Krogans, etc most of the time when we roam through Mass Effect. The Quarians mostly stick to the flotilla unless they're on Pilgrimage.

[Dragoonlordz]

sylvianfan wrote...

What I've seen so far looks absolutely terrible. How much disc space is being taken from the proper game so this can be tacked on?

Not sure, I read somewhere but don't ask me to find it that Casey or someone said barely fits on BluRay 25gb disc. In which case thats a hell of a lot of DVDs for 360 owners. So either it was a lie or 360 version will come with a LOT of discs. I think it is probably the former not the latter of those two possiblities.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 12 octobre 2011 - 10:57 .

[emanziboy]

Gatt9 wrote...

The problem is,  this is an EA mandated feature so that they can force used game buyers to pay them for an online pass.  Generally speaking,  when a suit forces a feature on you,  it does not end well.  I'm not seeing a reason for this to be any different.

I doubt that's the case. Even if you look at EA as an evil, souless, bottom-line obsessed company, it still doesn't make sense. Mass Effect 2 forced used buyers to buy Cerberus Network for $15 IIRC. If all they wanted was to force used buyers to buy an online pass, they would have just done something like CN again because that would be FAR cheaper than going through the extra expense of hiring another division to make a multiplayer mode and paying for the servers required.

[JeffZero]

sylvianfan wrote...

What I've seen so far looks absolutely terrible. How much disc space is being taken from the proper game so this can be tacked on?

I'll reiterate:

360 discs, far and away the biggest problem with data storage in the series thus far, have been given an extra gigabyte recently thanks to changes in DRM protocols. The Mass Effect team has even confirmed that they're taking advantage of this extra space in ME3.

[Someone With Mass]

H3WM Sarge wrote...

@Wulfram

I think it's more likely that they aren't available for these types of missions. We encounter Turians, Asari, Krogans, etc most of the time when we roam through Mass Effect. The Quarians mostly stick to the flotilla unless they're on Pilgrimage.

Why a krogan would obey Hackett is beyond me, though.

A pilgrim wouldn't hurt either. Better than nothing.

[Ancient Metal]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Ancient Metal wrote...

I have a feeling EA made it become a feature as well. It was also definitely the reason for the delay.

Care to show any reliable proof for that statement? Because people have tweeted about how the delay was not because of the multiplayer (four months won't matter that much) since it was developed by a different studio.

And you know the tweeting wasn't smooth-talking how? I believe you may be a little naive.

[Lunatic LK47]

didymos1120 wrote...

What's the point of this?  I mean, if you just so happened to have guessed correctly come the day, what does it avail you?  Not like you predicted the existence of Pluto based on orbital perturbations. You just threw out a nice round number that countless others have also "called" on some internet forum.

How about the sheer fact that any MP game that didn't happen to have the "mainstream" appeal to the general public doesn't last long? Already had my fair share of dead MP games in the form of EndWar (anyone actually still playing that game online? As far as I know, no.). F.E.A.R. 3 died out 2 MONTHS AFTER RELEASE. I'm very doubtful anyone would want to continue playing ME3's MP 3 months after release.

[The Elder King]

JeffZero wrote...

There's plenty of time left between now and launch. I think people are jumping the gun a bit by stating that the quarians are not in the co-op game based on what we've seen. There are going to be all sorts of new informations bits both big and small between now and March.

That said, if they aren't present at launch the odds are they'll be DLC. I don't personally believe the geth/quarian conflict will be firmly resolved as a strictly one-or-the-other instance; the opportunity to resolve Tali and Legion's spat in ME2 peacefully always causes Shepard to smile in an almost Trekkian manner and I maintain my belief there will be a similar opportunity for a farewell to arms in ME3.

Agreed, especially because no one from Bioware said anything about the species that are out of MP. We know from the info so far that there'll be 6 species, but there could be more.
Though I don't think that we'll se more species other than Quarians and Geth. And I'll be seriously pleased if they'll put at least the possibility to play female Turians.

[didymos1120]

JeffZero wrote...

New DRM protocols have given the 360 discs -- the biggest problem with packing things in to-date -- an extra gigabyte of space. The developers have also confirmed that they've been given the opportunity to work with this extra gig for ME3.

Also,  this:

@AntiBioticFox At one point there was a worry that we might need a BD50 instead of the norm BD25. We're also trying to not require install.

I don't see how the data size would be significantly different on the 360.

[bigheadzach]

I have no problems with anyone stating their opinions, and especially no problems with anyone stating opinions/conjecture that they can back up with recorded facts or statements. I do not approve of "correlation = causation" arguments, ad hominems, straw men, or blind denial of given details based on personal grievances (i.e. butthurt). Flagrant, unsupported contradictions to elicit emotional responses are the sign of a troll.

If you have given your case and there is no swaying you, all you're doing by re-posting "I'm going to cancel my pre-order, goodbye" multiple times is showing some deluded sense of grandeur or self-importance; in a sense, you're under the misguided belief that your taking a stand against Bioware / EA / whatever is somehow going to be a shining beacon that causes the downfall of some evil machination that is out to personally hurt your feelings. This isn't a political issue, nor a social injustice - but the way some are acting on this forum makes it sound like it is, and that's just effing silly.

Our purpose here is to inform those who are misinformed, to discuss facts, to provide opinions CLEARLY as opinions, and to responsibly speculate on things. Let's keep that in mind.

[didymos1120]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Why a krogan would obey Hackett is beyond me, though.

Merc?