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[The Elder King]

Someone With Mass wrote...

H3WM Sarge wrote...

@Wulfram

I think it's more likely that they aren't available for these types of missions. We encounter Turians, Asari, Krogans, etc most of the time when we roam through Mass Effect. The Quarians mostly stick to the flotilla unless they're on Pilgrimage.

Why a krogan would obey Hackett is beyond me, though.

A pilgrim wouldn't hurt either. Better than nothing.

A lot of Turians wouldn't probably serve under a human neither.
I really like to see a biotic quarian (though at least we''ll probably see a biotic salarian or turian).

[Ancient Metal]

sylvianfan wrote...

What I've seen so far looks absolutely terrible. How much disc space is being taken from the proper game so this can be tacked on?

Excellent and interesting point. And I agree with your assessment.

[Wulfram]

H3WM Sarge wrote...

@Wulfram

I think it's more likely that they aren't available for these types of missions. We encounter Turians, Asari, Krogans, etc most of the time when we roam through Mass Effect. The Quarians mostly stick to the flotilla unless they're on Pilgrimage.

Pretty sure we've met more Quarians outside the flotilla than Drell.

[FugitiveMind]

bigheadzach wrote...

I have no problems with anyone stating their opinions, and especially no problems with anyone stating opinions/conjecture that they can back up with recorded facts or statements. I do not approve of "correlation = causation" arguments, ad hominems, straw men, or blind denial of given details based on personal grievances (i.e. butthurt). Flagrant, unsupported contradictions to elicit emotional responses are the sign of a troll.

If you have given your case and there is no swaying you, all you're doing by re-posting "I'm going to cancel my pre-order, goodbye" multiple times is showing some deluded sense of grandeur or self-importance; in a sense, you're under the misguided belief that your taking a stand against Bioware / EA / whatever is somehow going to be a shining beacon that causes the downfall of some evil machination that is out to personally hurt your feelings. This isn't a political issue, nor a social injustice - but the way some are acting on this forum makes it sound like it is, and that's just effing silly.

Our purpose here is to inform those who are misinformed, to discuss facts, to provide opinions CLEARLY as opinions, and to responsibly speculate on things. Let's keep that in mind.

Ah, level-headeness and sanity on the interwebs. We have dismissed these claims.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Maybe Quarians will be involved with Co-op as a support option, remember in that demo where Shepard's on that turret shooting the Reaper?

The Quarians are the ones who blew the crap out of it so maybe we'll get the same kind of air support in the co-op missions.

But I really would like to make my own Quarian charactor too, they better add them....

[JeffZero]

bigheadzach wrote...

I have no problems with anyone stating their opinions, and especially no problems with anyone stating opinions/conjecture that they can back up with recorded facts or statements. I do not approve of "correlation = causation" arguments, ad hominems, straw men, or blind denial of given details based on personal grievances (i.e. butthurt). Flagrant, unsupported contradictions to elicit emotional responses are the sign of a troll.

If you have given your case and there is no swaying you, all you're doing by re-posting "I'm going to cancel my pre-order, goodbye" multiple times is showing some deluded sense of grandeur or self-importance; in a sense, you're under the misguided belief that your taking a stand against Bioware / EA / whatever is somehow going to be a shining beacon that causes the downfall of some evil machination that is out to personally hurt your feelings. This isn't a political issue, nor a social injustice - but the way some are acting on this forum makes it sound like it is, and that's just effing silly.

Our purpose here is to inform those who are misinformed, to discuss facts, to provide opinions CLEARLY as opinions, and to responsibly speculate on things. Let's keep that in mind.

One of the better posts in this thread thus far. It probably won't change much but it did feel like a breath of fresh air to me at least.

[bigheadzach]

sylvianfan wrote...

What I've seen so far looks absolutely terrible. How much disc space is being taken from the proper game so this can be tacked on?

You're making the assumption that content was removed from the discs to make room for the Co-Op content, when it is equally (or more) likely that the additional content may be on its own disc, if necessary.

[didymos1120]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

What's the point of this?  I mean, if you just so happened to have guessed correctly come the day, what does it avail you?  Not like you predicted the existence of Pluto based on orbital perturbations. You just threw out a nice round number that countless others have also "called" on some internet forum.

How about the sheer fact that any MP game that didn't happen to have the "mainstream" appeal to the general public doesn't last long? Already had my fair share of dead MP games in the form of EndWar (anyone actually still playing that game online? As far as I know, no.). F.E.A.R. 3 died out 2 MONTHS AFTER RELEASE. I'm very doubtful anyone would want to continue playing ME3's MP 3 months after release.

OK, great.   I still don't see what the point of "calling it" is.  What does it prove if you end up being right?  What do you get out of being right? 

[JD196]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

What's the point of this?  I mean, if you just so happened to have guessed correctly come the day, what does it avail you?  Not like you predicted the existence of Pluto based on orbital perturbations. You just threw out a nice round number that countless others have also "called" on some internet forum.

How about the sheer fact that any MP game that didn't happen to have the "mainstream" appeal to the general public doesn't last long? Already had my fair share of dead MP games in the form of EndWar (anyone actually still playing that game online? As far as I know, no.). F.E.A.R. 3 died out 2 MONTHS AFTER RELEASE. I'm very doubtful anyone would want to continue playing ME3's MP 3 months after release.

I do

[JeffZero]

@didymos:

Ah, I believe I missed that tweet. Good find.

[Someone With Mass]

Ancient Metal wrote...

And you know the tweeting wasn't smooth-talking how? I believe you may be a little naive.

Because I actually have a brain and know that you need a lot more than four months to make a functional multiplayer.

That, and they probably didn't want to steal sales from their own game, like SWTOR.

Feel free to give me a reason why I shouldn't believe them and what they can gain on it besides pissing off butthurt people that can't accept new things and thinks a optional mode in the game will ruin it all.

[Zakatak757]

Ancient Metal wrote...

sylvianfan wrote...

What I've seen so far looks absolutely terrible. How much disc space is being taken from the proper game so this can be tacked on?

Excellent and interesting point. And I agree with your assessment.

ME2 was a 12gb game.
Killzone 3 was a 50gb game.

Room is hardly an issue.

[VeniceKing]

Optional multiplayer WTF?!! Is this an attempt to appeal to the COD crowd? This game is a story based SINGLE player game. It doesn't need this gimmick.

[Lunatic LK47]

didymos1120 wrote...

OK, great.   I still don't see what the point of "calling it" is.  What does it prove if you end up being right?  What do you get out of being right? 

That MP was a bad idea to start with, especially when the MASS EFFECT FANS NEVER ASKED FOR THIS?

Modifié par Lunatic LK47, 12 octobre 2011 - 11:11 .

[Someone With Mass]

Wulfram wrote...

Pretty sure we've met more Quarians outside the flotilla than Drell.

The drell I've seen: Thane, Kolyat and Feron.

Then we have Lia'Vael, those two quarians on Illium, Kenn, the one you can rescue from varren (nice reference to Ascension, by the way) Kal'Reegar, Veetor, Praaza and his team, the list goes on.

[1136342t54_]

hhh89 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

H3WM Sarge wrote...

@Wulfram

I think it's more likely that they aren't available for these types of missions. We encounter Turians, Asari, Krogans, etc most of the time when we roam through Mass Effect. The Quarians mostly stick to the flotilla unless they're on Pilgrimage.

Why a krogan would obey Hackett is beyond me, though.

A pilgrim wouldn't hurt either. Better than nothing.

A lot of Turians wouldn't probably serve under a human neither.
I really like to see a biotic quarian (though at least we''ll probably see a biotic salarian or turian).

Not really. Most Turians don't see the First contact war as such a serious insult. Hell most of them seem reasonably acceptable of humans throughout the game.

[didymos1120]

Zakatak757 wrote...

Ancient Metal wrote...

sylvianfan wrote...

What I've seen so far looks absolutely terrible. How much disc space is being taken from the proper game so this can be tacked on?

Excellent and interesting point. And I agree with your assessment.

ME2 was a 12gb game.
Killzone 3 was a 50gb game.

Room is hardly an issue.

Yeah, but Killzone 3 was a PS3-only title.  ME3 is cross-platform, with the 360 being the limiting factor due to smaller disc size, and thus increased production costs for every additional disc that must be printed.

[Captain_Obvious]

VeniceKing wrote...

Optional multiplayer WTF?!! Is this an attempt to appeal to the COD crowd? This game is a story based SINGLE player game. It doesn't need this gimmick.

Bioware says now it's co-op. 

[Lunatic LK47]

Savber100 wrote...

I like what I'm seeing. Of all the options for the MP, this was the best one.

The hate for ME3 and Bioware is based on two misunderstanding that:

1. MP = Bad SP
2. MP= Bad game mode = Bad game

Which is USUALLY the case.

There's also #3.

3.  MP= Limited lifespan= Half a game not playable.

[JeffZero]

VeniceKing wrote...

Optional multiplayer WTF?!! Is this an attempt to appeal to the COD crowd? This game is a story based SINGLE player game. It doesn't need this gimmick.

Cool!

Now please read all relevant information released thus far before asking any questions about how the completely optional add-on component steals time, money, staff or the souls of fandom. We would greatly appreciate it.

[didymos1120]

1136342t54 wrote...

Not really. Most Turians don't see the First contact war as such a serious insult.

They don't even consider it a real war.  To them, it's just the "Relay 314 Incident".

[Zakatak757]

didymos1120 wrote...

Zakatak757 wrote...

Ancient Metal wrote...

sylvianfan wrote...

What I've seen so far looks absolutely terrible. How much disc space is being taken from the proper game so this can be tacked on?

Excellent and interesting point. And I agree with your assessment.

ME2 was a 12gb game.
Killzone 3 was a 50gb game.

Room is hardly an issue.

Yeah, but Killzone 3 was a PS3-only title.  ME3 is cross-platform, with the 360 being the limiting factor due to smaller disc size, and thus increased production costs for every additional disc that must be printed.

Why not have 2 discs?

Forza 3 did it and it was still a 60$ buy. One for the main story, and the other installs multiplayer.

[Someone With Mass]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

That MP was a bad idea to start with, especially when NO ONE ASKED FOR THIS?

I think plenty of people have asked for it. Not only here, but on Twitter and Facebook too.

[Someone With Mass]

Zakatak757 wrote...

Why not have 2 discs?

Forza 3 did it and it was still a 60$ buy. One for the main story, and the other installs multiplayer.

They have. They're not sure if ME3 can even fit on two discs. 

[Someone With Mass]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

Which is USUALLY the case.

There's also #3.

3.  MP= Limited lifespan= Half a game not playable.

Co-op has a limited lifespan now? Ha. Good one.