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[JeffZero]

hhh89 wrote...

I'm going to finish at least on playtrough in SP, and then maybe play the MP. I'm more interested in ME3' story and its end. Plus, I don't want the bonus of the MP (Though I read that you can choose to use them or not in the SP), I want to complete the game without any help from the MP.

I'm considering going this route -- basically if I don't have a precise explanation of exactly how the multiplayer stops effecting the storyline by the time the game ships I'll hold off until my second file. If I see an option on the menu like "disable single/multi handshake" or something too, then yeah, I'll play it alongside my first file, maybe.

But yeah, totally more interested in the huge cast of characters BioWare has crafted, of course.

[Nayt Navare]

dreman9999 wrote...

SE JN wrote...

I'll repeat my question, as it seems to have been lost-

Any word on how Galactic Readiness is going to be displayed? Through a personal PC? In game conversation? Etc? I'm hoping it's not some bar anyone on the in-game HUD.

Here is an article explaining it even more.http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/10/12/mass-effect-3-multiplayer-explained/ The
December issue of Official Xbox Magazine US has revealed a lot more
details regarding the recently announced Mass Effect 3 multiplayer.
Which has apparently been in the planning stages ever since the first
Mass Effect, but was the first time producer Casey Hudson felt
comfortable integrating it into the series, in keeping with the theme of
'Galactic War'. Check inside for a full explanation of how
multilayer will work, and how it will integrate with Mass Effect 3′s
single player story.

The article,
spotted Sticky Skills, finally explains how exactly the multiplayer
component will affect the single player campaign. Completing side
missions and plot points in single player will earn you a currency
called 'war assets' which enables you to 'buy' allies, fleets and other
support options to aid you in the fight against the Reapers.
Completing all or most of the content in single player will net you
enough war assets to save the galaxy, but you can also earn them by
playing the multiplayer mode. This means that multiplayer is entirely
optional, offering an alternative method of completion to those that
don't want to explore all the sidequests. I wonder if this could be a
reaction by Bioware to the number of people who never actually finish
their games. Personally I always like to do everything I can in RPG
games anyway, but that won't stop me trying the multiplayer on for
size. According to the article the co-op mode will you playing as
a four man team under the command of Admiral Hackett, returning from
the previous games. You'll be defending key single player locations
against increasingly difficult waves of Cerberus foes, much like Dawn
of War's Last Stand mode. Each stage offers eleven waves of enemies,
from stealthy assassins to armoured mechs. There will also be
objectives scattered around the map, such as retrieving data or
protecting an ally while they hack a terminal. You'll be able to
play as races and class from the Mass Effect universe, with Drell
(aka: Thane's race from Mass Effect 2) joining the previously announced
Asari, Krogan and Turian options. Solider, Infiltrator, Sentinel and
Engineer class were also revealed, with more to follow. It seems likely
that the other single player class, Vanguard and Adept, will appear,
although they may play differently in multiplayer. Each race and class will have special abilities, such as the Krogan's charge attack. You
can level your characters up to level 20 during the multiplayer, with
each class levelling separately. You'll also be able to upgrade your
armour and weaponry, picking which powers and weapons to take with you
before the action starts. There's no word yet on the extent of
character customisation, although you will be able to choose your gender
(unless you're an Asari, presumably). Finally defending areas
will bring them up on a strategic map, viewable from outside the game
via Facebook and mobile devices, which will also have their own tie ins
to 'Galaxy at War', although we're still waiting on the details for
those.

I appreciate the response, but this doesn't reall answer my question.  

[Killjoy Cutter]

I missed the thing about Facebook and mobile devices.

I can guarantee that tying ME3 in the Facebook and the like will make me FAR LESS likely to bother with ME3. Multiplayer is one thing, Facebook is a whole different story. Anyone who doesn't understand why needs to educate themslves about the company and its founder -- the man who said that privacy is dead and that anyone who wants or supports privacy is a naive idiot.

[didymos1120]

Here's an idea: don't use the Facebook stuff.

[Nayt Navare]

DarkSun522 wrote...

GOD BLESS YOU BIOWARE! GOD BLESS YOU CASEY HUDSON! GOD BLESS MASS EFFECT!

I found this quote adorable. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

didymos1120 wrote...

Here's an idea: don't use the Facebook stuff.

Here's hoping it's that simple.

[Mister Mida]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Here's an idea: don't use the Facebook stuff.

Here's hoping it's that simple.

It would be really stupid if it wasn't.

[rolson00]

its going to be the best thing since sliced bread!

[didymos1120]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Here's an idea: don't use the Facebook stuff.

Here's hoping it's that simple.

And how exactly would they be able to make you?  Unless you think it's highly likely they'd require a Facebook account before letting you play the game.

[Killjoy Cutter]

didymos1120 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Here's an idea: don't use the Facebook stuff.

Here's hoping it's that simple.

And how exactly would they be able to make you?  Unless you think it's highly likely they'd require a Facebook account before letting you play the game.

Not the entire game, no.  But it's sounding a bit like one of those Matryoshka dolls... get ME3, and there's a push to play the MP content... play the MP, and there's a push to get the Facebook content... 

Maybe it's nothing, but it sets off my alarm bells, especially with Zuckerberg's crap in any way involved.

[Il Divo]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Here's an idea: don't use the Facebook stuff.

Here's hoping it's that simple.

And how exactly would they be able to make you?  Unless you think it's highly likely they'd require a Facebook account before letting you play the game.

Not the entire game, no.  But it's sounding a bit like one of those Matryoshka dolls... get ME3, and there's a push to play the MP content... play the MP, and there's a push to get the Facebook content... 

Maybe it's nothing, but it sets off my alarm bells, especially with Zuckerberg's crap in any way involved.

How do they make a push for facebook content exactly?

[Iakus]

Il Divo wrote...

I agree that a long, good game may outweigh a short, good game, but that's still contrary to the issue at hand. Length will not, by necessity, lead to satisfaction. Fun/short outweighs long/mediocre every time. Much as I know your dislike of ME2, you're aware of my dislike of ME1's exploration/side quest mechanism. Without that, ME1 is a rather short experience, on the scale of ME2's campaign + loyalty missions. Outside of BGII and Dragon Age: Origins, I really can't say that there are many Bioware games where I personally enjoyed the "length of the experience", which was usually a result of prolonged exploration (BG1, ME1, NwN).

True enough, but in this case "long and good" would put paid to any doubts that MP interfered with SP on any level.  'Short', or even 'medium', and good would leave me wondering if maybe a little more could have been fit in, if only...

Mediocre of any length is of course unacceptable.

And yes, the relatively short length of ME1 is one of my few complaints about the game.  But then, I know MP had nothing to do with that;)

I do and I am sympathetic. I personally don't want multiplayer in the slighest. However, maybe I'm just waxing philosophical, but we can never know whether resources were/were not cut significantly from the SP. All we can ever judge is our total satisfaction from the experience. In this case, ME3 (length-wise) being on the scale of ME2 is certainly not terrible for Bioware. And it's why if I'm satisfied with ME3 as a whole, regardless of length, I will remain satisfied.

It's not the knowing, it's the suspecting.  It's the trust.  Since the information about ME3 started coming out, I was slowly regaining my trust, that maybe Bioware was going to put back in some or all of the things I felt were left out of ME2 and brought me to these boards in the first place.  The news about Ashley wearing a fem version of Kaidan's armor actually made me think preordering might not be such a bad idea after all.

Now with this news of multiplayer, I'm essentially back at square one.  They deceived me, and now I have to wonder what else I've been deceived about.  

"Ash will wear a fem version of Kaidan's Alliance armor"
of course the fem version is a blue bikini, roller blades and a football helmet.  But we never said that's not what it was so we didn't lie.

"You can achieve optimal results purely through single player play...
...If you probe/mine 500k units of each type of mineral and choose a particular dialogue option on an obscure side quest.

Exagerations, yes, but to illustrate a point.  I need to know for certain that there is  zero interference in the SP game.  That even if there was no multiplayer, the single player game would not have been added to or altered in any way.  The easiest way I can think of would be if the multiplayyer aspects were on a separate disks or a download, or even a full expansion.  

I'm not opposed to Multiplayer in general.  If Mass Effect, Galaxy at war was a seperate game, I frankly wouldn't care one way or the other.  But the very possibility that it could interfere with ME3 in any way bothers me.  And the dishonest way this was handled makes it very hard for me to trust that it hasn't

[Lunatic LK47]

iakus wrote...



Now with this news of multiplayer, I'm essentially back at square one.  They deceived me, and now I have to wonder what else I've been deceived about.  

"Ash will wear a fem version of Kaidan's Alliance armor"
of course the fem version is a blue bikini, roller blades and a football helmet.  But we never said that's not what it was so we didn't lie.

"You can achieve optimal results purely through single player play...
...If you probe/mine 500k units of each type of mineral and choose a particular dialogue option on an obscure side quest.

Exagerations, yes, but to illustrate a point.  I need to know for certain that there is  zero interference in the SP game.  That even if there was no multiplayer, the single player game would not have been added to or altered in any way.  The easiest way I can think of would be if the multiplayyer aspects were on a separate disks or a download, or even a full expansion.  

I'm not opposed to Multiplayer in general.  If Mass Effect, Galaxy at war was a seperate game, I frankly wouldn't care one way or the other.  But the very possibility that it could interfere with ME3 in any way bothers me.  And the dishonest way this was handled makes it very hard for me to trust that it hasn't

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[Sgt Stryker]

iakus wrote...

It's not the knowing, it's the suspecting.  It's the trust.  Since the information about ME3 started coming out, I was slowly regaining my trust, that maybe Bioware was going to put back in some or all of the things I felt were left out of ME2 and brought me to these boards in the first place.  The news about Ashley wearing a fem version of Kaidan's armor actually made me think preordering might not be such a bad idea after all.

Now with this news of multiplayer, I'm essentially back at square one.  They deceived me, and now I have to wonder what else I've been deceived about.  

Look on the bright side - I didn't see a single pair of high heels or any space-spandex in any of the MP previews. 

[Doug4130]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

iakus wrote...

It's not the knowing, it's the suspecting.  It's the trust.  Since the information about ME3 started coming out, I was slowly regaining my trust, that maybe Bioware was going to put back in some or all of the things I felt were left out of ME2 and brought me to these boards in the first place.  The news about Ashley wearing a fem version of Kaidan's armor actually made me think preordering might not be such a bad idea after all.

Now with this news of multiplayer, I'm essentially back at square one.  They deceived me, and now I have to wonder what else I've been deceived about.  

Look on the bright side - I didn't see a single pair of high heels or any space-spandex in any of the MP previews. 

annnd there goes any desire I had to make an asari character for multiplayer

[Sandbox47]

I'm a bit chuffed, it's a bit like discovering that your best friend doesn't really think that you are his/her best friend and never did. But it is optional so I don't really see the issue here. I doubt that you will get an incomplete game experience if you don't coop. It's just for those who really like it.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Il Divo wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Here's an idea: don't use the Facebook stuff.

Here's hoping it's that simple.

And how exactly would they be able to make you?  Unless you think it's highly likely they'd require a Facebook account before letting you play the game.

Not the entire game, no.  But it's sounding a bit like one of those Matryoshka dolls... get ME3, and there's a push to play the MP content... play the MP, and there's a push to get the Facebook content... 

Maybe it's nothing, but it sets off my alarm bells, especially with Zuckerberg's crap in any way involved.

How do they make a push for facebook content exactly?

We'll see how much of a push it actually it is.  It's just that any Facebook involvement worries me a great deal. 

[Reiella]

Il Divo wrote...
How do they make a push for facebook content exactly?

Maybe something like Dragon Age Legends...
Of course, I can get that on google+, so good for me!

[firefireblow]

if this has been asked sorry. rather not look thorugh 37 pages.

what happens when one of the players dies?

are they dead for the rest of the mission? can someone use unity on them? or does the entire team fail because of one child wants to go *haha* i charged the enemy *haha*?

[Sandbox47]

firefireblow wrote...

if this has been asked sorry. rather not look thorugh 37 pages.

what happens when one of the players dies?

are they dead for the rest of the mission? can someone use unity on them? or does the entire team fail because of one child wants to go *haha* i charged the enemy *haha*?

I think that it's just that you're out until the batch of enemies is down. Then you get up again or something.

[PXXL]

iakus wrote...

I need to know for certain that there is  zero interference in the SP game.

Why do you need to know?

[firefireblow]

Sandbox47 wrote...

firefireblow wrote...

if this has been asked sorry. rather not look thorugh 37 pages.

what happens when one of the players dies?

are they dead for the rest of the mission? can someone use unity on them? or does the entire team fail because of one child wants to go *haha* i charged the enemy *haha*?

I think that it's just that you're out until the batch of enemies is down. Then you get up again or something.

that would make sense, but still when has bioware done anything that makes sense.

[Someone With Mass]

iakus wrote...

I need to know for certain that there is  zero interference in the SP game.

Okay.

The multiplayer co-op mode is OPTIONAL.

It can help you with the war effort, but you can get the exact same thing while playing solo.

[PXXL]

Someone With Mass wrote...

iakus wrote...

I need to know for certain that there is  zero interference in the SP game.

Okay.

The multiplayer co-op mode is OPTIONAL.

It can help you with the war effort, but you can get the exact same thing while playing solo.

He ment interference as in things beeing cut from it.. sorry for not quoting the whole thing.