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[KBomb]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Good question. 

Of course, this entire "you have to recruit a species in SP to play it in MP" thing is coming from Dreman, so take it with a grain of salt.

Actually, it comes from this tweet.

https://twitter.com/#%21/gtez/status/124273813310554113

[Killjoy Cutter]

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Why worry about a mode your not playing?

1)  We have way of being certain that MP won't end up being at least partially necessary for a reasonable SP playthrough, despite the claims coming from Bioware at the moment.  After all, a few weeks ago, we were being lead to believe that there was no MP at all in ME3.

2)  Unlike some people, I am capable of comprehending that others want, feel, and think different things, and that some players will want to play MP with other actual human players, and -- on principle if nothing else -- I am capable of concern for what affect MP will have on SP for those players. 

1. Don't think it has to be said again that you can get what ever reward in the mp in the sp. It's like you ignore that fact like the plague.
2.Great. So your against mp because it will effect other people games, not the fact that it may subtract from the sp game which you stated earlier....How noble.

1)  You can repeat and repeat and repeat the claim as many times as you want, until I see reviews based on actual gameplay that solidly confirm it, I'm not believing it. 

Bioware already engaged in intentional deceit regarding MP being included in ME3, and don't get me started on the way DA2 was marketed and sold on pre-orders as something it wasn't.  I DO NOT TRUST BIOWARE.  What is so hard to grasp about that very simple and basic concept? 


2)  I'm against MP because of how it might affect SP, even for someone who never plays MP.  I'm also against MP because of what it potentially means for people who DO play MP.  Again, not a hard concept to grasp. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

KBomb wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Good question. 

Of course, this entire "you have to recruit a species in SP to play it in MP" thing is coming from Dreman, so take it with a grain of salt.

Actually, it comes from this tweet.

https://twitter.com/#%21/gtez/status/124273813310554113

Well eff.  That's no good. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

dreman9999 wrote...

Then you not understanding.

So ironic it's painful. 

[dreman9999]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Why worry about a mode your not playing?

1)  We have way of being certain that MP won't end up being at least partially necessary for a reasonable SP playthrough, despite the claims coming from Bioware at the moment.  After all, a few weeks ago, we were being lead to believe that there was no MP at all in ME3.

2)  Unlike some people, I am capable of comprehending that others want, feel, and think different things, and that some players will want to play MP with other actual human players, and -- on principle if nothing else -- I am capable of concern for what affect MP will have on SP for those players. 

1. Don't think it has to be said again that you can get what ever reward in the mp in the sp. It's like you ignore that fact like the plague.
2.Great. So your against mp because it will effect other people games, not the fact that it may subtract from the sp game which you stated earlier....How noble.

1)  You can repeat and repeat and repeat the claim as many times as you want, until I see reviews based on actual gameplay that solidly confirm it, I'm not believing it. 

Bioware already engaged in intentional deceit regarding MP being included in ME3, and don't get me started on the way DA2 was marketed and sold on pre-orders as something it wasn't.  I DO NOT TRUST BIOWARE.  What is so hard to grasp about that very simple and basic concept? 


2)  I'm against MP because of how it might affect SP, even for someone who never plays MP.  I'm also against MP because of what it potentially means for people who DO play MP.  Again, not a hard concept to grasp. 

1.Oh Yes. they are totally lieing to you about the mode. It reallya hordecore vs mp with COD mp. People throwing space knieves and using space nukes.
2, If you don't play it, It won't effect the sp.

[dreman9999]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

KBomb wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Good question. 

Of course, this entire "you have to recruit a species in SP to play it in MP" thing is coming from Dreman, so take it with a grain of salt.

Actually, it comes from this tweet.

https://twitter.com/#%21/gtez/status/124273813310554113

Well eff.  That's no good. 

Not like your playing the mp.

[Killjoy Cutter]

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

KBomb wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Good question. 

Of course, this entire "you have to recruit a species in SP to play it in MP" thing is coming from Dreman, so take it with a grain of salt.

Actually, it comes from this tweet.

https://twitter.com/#%21/gtez/status/124273813310554113

Well eff.  That's no good. 

Not like your playing the mp.

1)  I have no way of knowing at the moment if playing MP will be entirely optional, despite the claims.  If it turns out not to be, then I'll be left with a choice between no getting ME3, or suffering through MP. 

2)  It's still a bad game design decision, so I care even if I don't buy the game at all.

[dreman9999]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

KBomb wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Good question. 

Of course, this entire "you have to recruit a species in SP to play it in MP" thing is coming from Dreman, so take it with a grain of salt.

Actually, it comes from this tweet.

https://twitter.com/#%21/gtez/status/124273813310554113

Well eff.  That's no good. 

Not like your playing the mp.

1)  I have no way of knowing at the moment if playing MP will be entirely optional, despite the claims.  If it turns out not to be, then I'll be left with a choice between no getting ME3, or suffering through MP. 

2)  It's still a bad game design decision, so I care even if I don't buy the game at all.

1.Not like your playing the mp.../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png

2. Not like your playing the mp.../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png

[Killjoy Cutter]

dreman9999 wrote...

Oh Yes. they are totally lieing to you about the mode.

Could be, they lied about MP being in ME3.  Why should I believe them now? 

[Nashiktal]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Then you not understanding.

So ironic it's painful. 

I hear ya.

Although I suspect there is some sort of language barrier.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Well, looks like according to one little mod I'm not allowed to call someone out for spamming the same BS back at me in response to the fact that I actually give a damn about a game feature, so consider this post deleted instead of leaving in the snide message the mod edited in. 

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 18 octobre 2011 - 11:11 .

[FLYING GRENADE11]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

1)  I have no way of knowing at the moment if playing MP will be entirely optional, despite the claims.  If it turns out not to be, then I'll be left with a choice between no getting ME3, or suffering through MP. 

2)  It's still a bad game design decision, so I care even if I don't buy the game at all.

1.Not like your playing the mp.../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png

2. Not like your playing the mp.../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png

You either aren't able to comprehend being opposed to something on principle and out of sympathy or others, or you're just trolling out of lack of a coherent response. 

Roger.

[Taciter]

lol.. Phew... I see a momentary window of reason!

So 5 pages consisting of 2 perspectives, neither of which conflict or coincide.. how utterly absurd.

So Killjoy.. looks like we can get back to harrassing establishment figures about the neceissty for an AI co-op toggle! =D

Modifié par Taciter, 18 octobre 2011 - 08:49 .

[dreman9999]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Oh Yes. they are totally lieing to you about the mode.

Could be, they lied about MP being in ME3.  Why should I believe them now? 

With how everyone reacted, for good reason. They waited till they were sure it wasgoing tobein the game and that they found a way to impliment it rightbefore telling use. How horrible.

Next you'll tell me you can't play a female beacuse they maybe lieing to you.

[FLYING GRENADE11]

Taciter wrote...

lol.. Phew... I see a momentary window of reason!

So 5 pages consisting of 2 perspectives, neither of which conflict or coincide.. how utterly absurd.

Yep and the sad thing is no one is going to let the subject slide.

[Taciter]

FLYING GRENADE11 wrote...

Taciter wrote...

lol.. Phew... I see a momentary window of reason!

So 5 pages consisting of 2 perspectives, neither of which conflict or coincide.. how utterly absurd.

Yep and the sad thing is no one is going to let the subject slide.

lol.... It's quite entertaining.. I just wish the useful points didn't get diluted in the process.

Reasonable suggestions have been made in this thread but subsequently obscured by pointless contestations which are, ironically, predominantly irrelevant.

Modifié par Taciter, 18 octobre 2011 - 08:52 .

[MartinDN]

I wont touch MP, nor will i install origins both of them near the ME series is something i find distateful, but its been said there is no need to play mp to finish the game with a succesful ending...whether this is true or not affects many peoples decisions on whether to buy it or not, as others have mentioned im inclined not to trust bioware (EA) at this point due to the many overturned answers they have given us, but still i am, for the moment putting my trust in them that those of us that want to can strictly play SP on its own without losing any content.

Modifié par MartinDN, 18 octobre 2011 - 08:54 .

[Nashiktal]

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Oh Yes. they are totally lieing to you about the mode.

Could be, they lied about MP being in ME3.  Why should I believe them now? 

With how everyone reacted, for good reason. They waited till they were sure it wasgoing tobein the game and that they found a way to impliment it rightbefore telling use. How horrible.

Next you'll tell me you can't play a female beacuse they maybe lieing to you.

So they tell us its not going to be in the game, which it has to have been for some time with what we have seen, lie to us... And you are ok with it? They never lied to us about not being female, but they did lie to us about multiplyer, people are upset about it, legitimately. I don't get why you are ok with it.

The way most people reacted was because they lied. People might still be upset about multiplayer, but it doesn't mean you lie about it. People want to know what they are buying mate, unless you are against the truth?

[Taciter]

Here's a question MartinDN, if Bioware announced that they would be implementing an AI squad option so that anyone could experience the MP content, even solo players... would that go some way to appeasing you?

[FLYING GRENADE11]

Taciter wrote...

FLYING GRENADE11 wrote...

Taciter wrote...

lol.. Phew... I see a momentary window of reason!

So 5 pages consisting of 2 perspectives, neither of which conflict or coincide.. how utterly absurd.

Yep and the sad thing is no one is going to let the subject slide.

lol.... It's quite entertaining.. I just wish the useful points didn't get diluted in the process.

Reasonable suggestions have been made in this thread but subsequently obscured by pointless contestations which are, ironically, predominantly irrelevant.

Yeah i guess your right, LETS POST PONIES!!!

[MartinDN]

Taciter wrote...

Here's a question MartinDN, if Bioware announced that they would be implementing an AI squad option so that anyone could experience the MP content, even solo players... would that go some way to appeasing you?

That would sound like a Fair idea to a certain extent yes, if it was like the SP mechanics in the MP environment, maybe an added DLC ?

I just dont like the idea of forcing us to play MP on what was previously a SP only games to get unforeseable benefits to our SP story.

Modifié par MartinDN, 18 octobre 2011 - 09:04 .

[Taciter]

lol.. I wonder if Bioware gave up on this thread a while back... they'd do well to consider some of the points raised and the general tone of thread.

People have clearly resigned themselves to the inevitability of a multiplayer add-on so at least Bioware can rest easy knowing that the official announcement has taken place but if they have any sense, they would see this forum as a microcosm of the ME community as a whole.

They can still pre-empt any would-be detractors by implementing (and announcing) the inclusion of an AI squad option. If nothing else, it will show willing on their behalf to acknowledge that there are two very distinct types of player within the ME community and that there should be no apparent bias.

Modifié par Taciter, 18 octobre 2011 - 09:09 .

[Taciter]

MartinDN wrote...

Taciter wrote...

Here's a question MartinDN, if Bioware announced that they would be implementing an AI squad option so that anyone could experience the MP content, even solo players... would that go some way to appeasing you?

That would sound like a Fair idea to a certain extent yes, if it was like the SP mechanics in the MP environment, maybe an added DLC ?

I just dont like the idea of forcing us to play MP on what was previously a SP only games to get unforeseable benefits to our SP story.

See, every solo player or MP-cynic I approach on this topic seems to be happy with such a compromise. I think the Bioware devs should take the proposal seriously.

Modifié par Taciter, 18 octobre 2011 - 09:08 .

[Iakus]

Taciter wrote..

See, every solo player or MP-cynic I approach on this topic seems to be happy with such a compromise. I think the Bioware devs should take the proposal seriously.

"Happy" is too strong a word.  "Acceptable" is more like it, to me.

[Lumikki]

dreman9999 wrote...

I understand that but you don't know if they went over the estement of a return yet. And with them making a very basic mp, I don't think they have.

Again pure assumption from your side. (except the basic mp)
Point been, I could say totally opposite and it would not be any better assumption than yours.

Without the estament of return and  product cost numbers,you just doing some pointless speculation with know sign to support it. You feel we got less to the sp because of the mp bu the fact is we got more o the sp because of it.

Again you make assumption and facts without any knowledge in any directions. You are inventing facts and making assumption TOTALLY based how you self like it to be. You have rights to have your own opinions and believes, but stop using your opinions as facts, based just your own believes as how it could be.

I don't have to have any numbers to support my case, because I have not made any number based claim. All my saying is based common sense with reasonable logic. Example if company works any content, I assume it will cost money. That's reasonable assumptions, because I have never heard company making stuff without causing any cost for them. It's also reasonable assumption that developers have to consider what content game will have and how much time they have, to make the game ready. All my saying is based these general assumption how everyting works in the business world. These assumtion works in all business, not just ME3's game development.

Modifié par Lumikki, 18 octobre 2011 - 09:34 .