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[OMTING52601]

LMAO, apparently I voiced my confusion but hours too early. In fact, MP is necessary to gain the best ending, unless the SP manages to do all the side quests/planet searches/pick up all possible missions. I'm a completionist and I still managed to miss a few side quests my first time through the both ME 1 and 2. Also, several of the reviews stated 'SP should be able to amass enough assets without using MP.'

Should does not equal can or will. *sigh* Oh, well. Not that it matters anyway. Getting twisted up is a waste of my energy; it's not going to change anything.

Modifié par OMTING52601, 27 octobre 2011 - 07:11 .

[dreman9999]

OMTING52601 wrote...

LMAO, apparently I voiced my confusion but hours too early. In fact, MP is necessary to gain the best ending, unless the SP manages to do all the side quests/planet searches/pick up all possible missions. I'm a completionist and I still managed to miss a few side quests my first time through the both ME 1 and 2. Also, several of the reviews stated 'SP should be able to amass enough assets without using MP.'

Should does not equal can or will. *sigh* Oh, well. Not that it matters anyway. Getting twisted up is a waste of my energy; it's not going to change anything.

You know what....I think if bioware got a hotwoman to streak in the middleof the street screaming with a micophone,"MP is not nessiasry to get the best end and you can get it doing the sp only.." I still beleive people will not get it.

[Killjoy Cutter]

dreman9999 wrote...

OMTING52601 wrote...

LMAO, apparently I voiced my confusion but hours too early. In fact, MP is necessary to gain the best ending, unless the SP manages to do all the side quests/planet searches/pick up all possible missions. I'm a completionist and I still managed to miss a few side quests my first time through the both ME 1 and 2. Also, several of the reviews stated 'SP should be able to amass enough assets without using MP.'

Should does not equal can or will. *sigh* Oh, well. Not that it matters anyway. Getting twisted up is a waste of my energy; it's not going to change anything.

You know what....I think if bioware got a hotwoman to streak in the middleof the street screaming with a micophone,"MP is not nessiasry to get the best end and you can get it doing the sp only.." I still beleive people will not get it.

The only one here who doesn't get it is you, fanboy.

[BeastMTL]

OMTING52601 wrote...

LMAO, apparently I voiced my confusion but hours too early. In fact, MP is necessary to gain the best ending, unless the SP manages to do all the side quests/planet searches/pick up all possible missions. I'm a completionist and I still managed to miss a few side quests my first time through the both ME 1 and 2. Also, several of the reviews stated 'SP should be able to amass enough assets without using MP.'

Should does not equal can or will. *sigh* Oh, well. Not that it matters anyway. Getting twisted up is a waste of my energy; it's not going to change anything.

Absolutely agree. But the deed is done and there's no way to avoid MP now.   Let's also not forget that EA is infamous for shutting down MP servers after as little as a year or so. And mp is confirmed client/server.

[dreman9999]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

OMTING52601 wrote...

LMAO, apparently I voiced my confusion but hours too early. In fact, MP is necessary to gain the best ending, unless the SP manages to do all the side quests/planet searches/pick up all possible missions. I'm a completionist and I still managed to miss a few side quests my first time through the both ME 1 and 2. Also, several of the reviews stated 'SP should be able to amass enough assets without using MP.'

Should does not equal can or will. *sigh* Oh, well. Not that it matters anyway. Getting twisted up is a waste of my energy; it's not going to change anything.

You know what....I think if bioware got a hotwoman to streak in the middleof the street screaming with a micophone,"MP is not nessiasry to get the best end and you can get it doing the sp only.." I still beleive people will not get it.

The only one here who doesn't get it is you, fanboy.

Says the one that blatantly ignores stated facts.

[Killjoy Cutter]

dreman9999 wrote...

Says the one that blatantly ignores stated facts.

LoL @ marketing double-speak as "facts". 

Never mind that you still don't begin grasp even one of the actual objections that people have to the MP as it has been tacked on, and reject out-of-hand all suggestions as to how those objections could be addressed. 

You're the same Bioware sycophant who vehemently rejects even the concept of the option of AI bots and offline play for the added multiplayer content, and keeps insisting that the multiplayer and side-mission content is identical. 

You have absolutely no room and no standing to talk about "not getting it". 

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 27 octobre 2011 - 08:29 .

[Shadowcat101]

I don’t mind this move of adding Multiplayer, but I do have some serious questions that are not in the FAQ yet.

1) Is “Galactic Readiness” Character based or will to cover every different Character I make in Mass Effect 3?

2) Once I Finish the game solo is there any point in playing the Multiplayer for more “Galactic Readiness”?

3) A bit like Question 1, Is Multiplayer tied to one of my Characters or all of my Characters in Mass Effect 3?

If I could get answers to these questions it would put to rest some fears I have.

Modifié par Shadowcat101, 27 octobre 2011 - 09:03 .

[Taciter]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
LoL @ marketing double-speak as "facts". 

Never mind that you still don't begin grasp even one of the actual objections that people have to the MP as it has been tacked on, and reject out-of-hand all suggestions as to how those objections could be addressed. 

You're the same Bioware sycophant who vehemently rejects even the concept of the option of AI bots and offline play for the added multiplayer content, and keeps insisting that the multiplayer and side-mission content is identical. 

You have absolutely no room and no standing to talk about "not getting it".

Sigh! Thought he'd gone.. woe is me!

I'm still convinced dreman is just an articulate AI hence the apparent absence of reason - you'd probably have more luck teaching a toaster higher dimensional geometry.

Modifié par Taciter, 27 octobre 2011 - 09:06 .

[wrdnshprd]

im in the camp of where, as long as i dont  have to do co-op to get the best ending, im ok with it.

and honestly, i kinda suspected this kind of thing was going to be added.  bioware just needs to be honest with its playerbase.  this game is not made for the single-player RPG crowd at this point .  its not.  its made for the gears of war / halo crowd that also likes a bit of story in their games..

and im ok with that, as long as the weapon modding and skill system is as robust as it looks.  these two systems were lackluster at best in ME2, which is why i didnt like it as much as ME1. 

[Takio]

wrdnshprd wrote...

im in the camp of where, as long as i dont  have to do co-op to get the best ending, im ok with it.

and honestly, i kinda suspected this kind of thing was going to be added.  bioware just needs to be honest with its playerbase.  this game is not made for the single-player RPG crowd at this point .  its not.  its made for the gears of war / halo crowd that also likes a bit of story in their games..

and im ok with that, as long as the weapon modding and skill system is as robust as it looks.  these two systems were lackluster at best in ME2, which is why i didnt like it as much as ME1. 

You do realize GoW and Halo possess complex stories? You do realize, GoW or Halo's campaign isn't even a fifth of any ME Game? You do realize, that ME 1's inventory and weapon mod system, was basically, "Spectre Gear + Colossus = insta-win"?

[Il Divo]

Takio wrote...

You do realize GoW and Halo possess complex stories? You do realize, GoW or Halo's campaign isn't even a fifth of any ME Game? You do realize, that ME 1's inventory and weapon mod system, was basically, "Spectre Gear + Colossus = insta-win"?

Glad to see that I'm not the only person who recognizes Halo as possessing a decent narrative. Alot of people really tend to just overlook it.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Il Divo wrote...

Takio wrote...

You do realize GoW and Halo possess complex stories? You do realize, GoW or Halo's campaign isn't even a fifth of any ME Game? You do realize, that ME 1's inventory and weapon mod system, was basically, "Spectre Gear + Colossus = insta-win"?

Glad to see that I'm not the only person who recognizes Halo as possessing a decent narrative. Alot of people really tend to just overlook it.

Reading HALO's story interested me a lot more than playing the game. 

Please don't take my disdain for the "dudebro" element of HALO's playerbase as disdain for the good parts of the game. 

[Il Divo]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Reading HALO's story interested me a lot more than playing the game. 

Please don't take my disdain for the "dudebro" element of HALO's playerbase as disdain for the good parts of the game. 

That actually wasn't directed at you at all. That statement was simply meant to be taken in isolation. I often see Halo receive some criticism for its storyline, so it's interesting to see others who enjoyed it as much as I did. If anything, I'm probably as critical of some portions of the Halo fanbase as you are.

Modifié par Il Divo, 28 octobre 2011 - 12:39 .

[Homebound]

Cmon Silverman, show us some MP game footage! You're trying to sell us something without letting us see it first!

Modifié par Hellbound555, 28 octobre 2011 - 01:04 .

[Garrison2009]

Personally happy that it gives you the option to play by yourself in MP, and changes difficulty accordingly. Makes it far more interesting and will create longevity for it, I believe.

[dreman9999]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Says the one that blatantly ignores stated facts.

LoL @ marketing double-speak as "facts". 

Never mind that you still don't begin grasp even one of the actual objections that people have to the MP as it has been tacked on, and reject out-of-hand all suggestions as to how those objections could be addressed. 

You're the same Bioware sycophant who vehemently rejects even the concept of the option of AI bots and offline play for the added multiplayer content, and keeps insisting that the multiplayer and side-mission content is identical. 

You have absolutely no room and no standing to talk about "not getting it". 

1. I'm not ageinst bots.

2. I'm looking more at what people are asking for and truely seeing what they get if theyget what they want. Playing a  co-op horde mode alone with bot's makes the game no longer a co-op game, it makes it a survival mode. Playing the game with bots make the chances of beating the mode worse because you working with bots with very limited intelligents. If you want the bots and the horde mode expriance....Just ask for it based on the sp where they already have a proper system in place.

3. The issuse in hand is how the mp will effect the sp. And it mute, why? Because you can get EVERYTHING YOU GET AS A REWARD FROM THE MP IN THE SP. You don't get anything extra from doing the mp that you will also get from the sp...NOTHING!!!!!
So if anyone is worried about the mp effecting their game.....DON'T PLAY THE MP!!!!!!!

Modifié par dreman9999, 28 octobre 2011 - 06:23 .

[dreman9999]

Il Divo wrote...

Takio wrote...

You do realize GoW and Halo possess complex stories? You do realize, GoW or Halo's campaign isn't even a fifth of any ME Game? You do realize, that ME 1's inventory and weapon mod system, was basically, "Spectre Gear + Colossus = insta-win"?

Glad to see that I'm not the only person who recognizes Halo as possessing a decent narrative. Alot of people really tend to just overlook it.

Halo as a series has a great story. Halo as the games alone......No way in hell.

[Vegos]

3. The issuse in hand is how the mp will effect the sp. And it mute, why? Because you can get EVERYTHING YOU GET AS A REWARD FROM THE MP IN THE SP. You don't get anything extra from doing the mp that you will also get from the sp...NOTHING!!!!!
So if anyone is worried about themp effecting their game.....DON'T PLAY THE MP!!!!!!!

Let's assume I've accepted the fact that MP is around and all. I haven't, but for the sake of the argument, let's say I have.

Let's say I happen to want to go and shoot up some stuff in co-op with my friends. I also happen to want to keep that from affecting my SP game because I want to have to bust my butt for the golden ending instead of getting welfare support from MP. And now I have a problem.

Yes, let's say I want to have my cake and eat it too, because cake IS for eating, after all.

Modifié par Vegos, 28 octobre 2011 - 04:43 .

[dreman9999]

Vegos wrote...

3. The issuse in hand is how the mp will effect the sp. And it mute, why? Because you can get EVERYTHING YOU GET AS A REWARD FROM THE MP IN THE SP. You don't get anything extra from doing the mp that you will also get from the sp...NOTHING!!!!!
So if anyone is worried about themp effecting their game.....DON'T PLAY THE MP!!!!!!!

Let's assume I've accepted the fact that MP is around and all. I haven't, but for the sake of the argument, let's say I have.

Let's say I happen to want to go and shoot up some stuff in co-op with my friends. I also happen to want to keep that from affecting my SP game because I want to have to bust my butt for the golden ending instead of getting welfare support from MP. And now I have a problem.

Yes, let's say I want to have my cake and eat it too, because cake IS for eating, after all.

Simple awnser is that it does not matter. If you can still play all the sp side missions, why worry about the mp effecting the sp? GR has a limit to what it can do to the sp, having more of the limit won't make have  an enhanced effect on the sp final mission. Think of it like the normandy's upgrade system in ME2, you only had to get the thanix cannon, the new armor and the kinetic shields to make sure no one died on the way to the base. Getting the other upgrades did not make the final mission more successful or easier for having them. After the normandy upgrade you had two other factors to deal with on the final mission, discussions and loyalty, which will be much like what will happen in ME3.
Anyone who is ok with mp would see the resources gain from it as a non-issue because it won't stop them from enjoying the sp, which is the most important part of the game....Anyone who for mp but doesn't like the fact you get resources from it is forgetting that fact and to an end has to deal with it. No matter what they still get the sp they want to play.

In short, the sp is the cake......No matter how much exta frosting they add, you can still eat it.

Modifié par dreman9999, 28 octobre 2011 - 05:03 .

[Vegos]

Of course it matters. I want to HAVE TO do it the hard way. I want to feel that urgency. I want to go into those SP side missions because the fate of the galaxy is at stake, not because 4 mooks shooting up a place in the other spiral arm freed up an opening in my schedule.

It's why for the ultimate insanity experience of ME2 you start a fresh character instead of importing one who wil start at level 5.

Comparing it to the loyalties in ME2, okay maybe it makes sense, but those loyalties were again up to me, and were not granted because something unrelated happened somewhere else, "but we can still go do it if there's time."

[didymos1120]

Vegos wrote...

Of course it matters. I want to HAVE TO do it the hard way.

So then do it the hard way.  Surely you can exercise that modicum of self-control? 

[dreman9999]

Vegos wrote...

Of course it matters. I want to HAVE TO do it the hard way. I want to feel that urgency. I want to go into those SP side missions because the fate of the galaxy is at stake, not because 4 mooks shooting up a place in the other spiral arm freed up an opening in my schedule.

It's why for the ultimate insanity experience of ME2 you start a fresh character instead of importing one who wil start at level 5.

Comparing it to the loyalties in ME2, okay maybe it makes sense, but those loyalties were again up to me, and were not granted because something unrelated happened somewhere else, "but we can still go do it if there's time."

And it you do gain it in the mp, what is stopping you from getting it in the sp? Does the game stop you from playing the side missions if you get the proper ammout of GR points? If not, then it does not matter. No matter what, you'll feel urgency. Why? Because GR doen not cover choices and loyalty. You lose nothing from the sp. So as long as you lose nothing from the sp, their is no point in worrying.

[Vegos]

didymos1120 wrote...

Vegos wrote...

Of course it matters. I want to HAVE TO do it the hard way.

So then do it the hard way.  Surely you can exercise that modicum of self-control? 

Do us both a favor and read what I wrote again. Maybe you'll see just how badly you missed the point there.

[dreman9999]

didymos1120 wrote...

Vegos wrote...

Of course it matters. I want to HAVE TO do it the hard way.

So then do it the hard way.  Surely you can exercise that modicum of self-control? 

"I like this human....he underastands!"

[Vegos]

And it you do gain it in the mp, what is stopping you from getting it in the sp? Does the game stop you from playing the side missions if you get the proper ammout of GR points?

No, but suddenly those side missions don't have that sense of urgency on the saving the galaxy note. They become leisure activities at that point. And I don't want that.

And no, that human does not understand. Nor do you, for that matter.

Modifié par Vegos, 28 octobre 2011 - 05:36 .