JaegerBane wrote...
I think there's a question of perspective, here. Yes, having this rootkit grubbing around your hard drive hoovering up data via methods of seriously dubious legality isn't good news. But lets not pretend that the sacrifices of the past are being dishonoured over this. There's nothing on my PC that is actually worth the effort and ill-will EA are sustaining to acquire it, and I seriously doubt there is any on the PCs of anyone on this forum.
Principle and reality, it seems. The principle stinks, but the reality of the situation is that it is unlikely going to do anything to you. So ultimately, its a question of whether you're willing to cut your nose off to spite your face. Not about who's died for your rights etc.
Respectfully sir I think your logic is flawed.
http://chronicle.com...Even-if/127461/that was linked earlier in the thread and applies here nicely.
For those who don't want to read it the summarized (and honestly way oversimplified) version is this, privacy rights just as with civil liberties and many forms of freedom are often
gained but rarely
lost in one large action or battle (be it political or physical). The grubby little rootkit may indeed find nothing damaging in the sense of it being illegal or embarrassing but that doesn't equate to it not being damaging. If the computer records say one thing about you and reality says another most of the time bureaucratic entities will believe the computer over you/people who were actually there for the events (or the lack of them). Even if we assume that A) EA discovers illegal/embarrassing,
they themselves do nothing to compromise you or your data, C) they put that 'share with 3rd parties' language in their EULA with no intent to use it. The statement that it isn't potentially damaging is still inaccurate because EA can get hacked. In this year alone both Sony and Bioware have been hacked and each of those hacks could have exposed weaknesses in EAs systems that could be exploited. Even if they did not expose such weaknesses EAs security isn't unbeatable, no security is. Which means the rootkit is creating a digital profile of you (which you're not allowed to comment on, correct or even view by the way) that has the
potential to be shared with any number and type of unknown third parties. Data mishandling can cause a whole host of problems for whoever that data points at even beyond the normal listing connected with identity theft. In one example a 30 year veteran of the Chicago fire department was not permitted to renew his state ID card because the records on file didn't match reality. And even being a lifetime resident of the city and long time employee of it didn't allow him an avenue for redress. This has left him with without either of the following 1) A legal form of ID 2) driving privileges.
A second case would be credit issue I'm currently coping with, no one stole my identity and no one spent my money. But my digital profile in some database somewhere is inaccurate stating that I owe money to groups that I haven't dealt with and who may not even be real as far as I am aware. But since it's 'in my file' that's what the bureaucratic entities base their choices on thus blocking me from things like loans and credit cards.
Even putting all of
that aside I would contend that getting people used to the idea of being observed constantly and intrusively, getting them to accept the fundamentally flawed "if you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide" argument is in and of itself doing harm and reason enough not to accept the Origin "service".
Putting all of that into concise terms; the principle
is the reality in a corporate and legal environment where president and what's commonly noticed/accepted defines what is acceptable and practiced limits must be held firmly and on principle because between subjective social/legal practices and the rapid evolution of technology the other aspects of the environment change too rapidly for the majority of customers to successfully fully apprised of. Freedom at its essence is the ability to have and make personal choices so when a trend be it legal, market, or social, actively removes the ability to choose (as mandating Origin does, and as info harvesting does even more) then that is a direct erosion of the driving principles that soldiers and civil rights activists (at least those I know and/or have read/heard speak regarding motivation and context) spend sweat and often blood to uphold and protect. It's not a theoretical argument, it's not hysteria or overstating the case, it's the way the global system tends to work, and it's important to know that and address it as such.
Origin, nor even ME3 (which I'll likely love if I have the chance to play it) is not my nose (metaphoric or otherwise
) and I'm not willing to put the well being of my nose or any other aspect of myself unquestioningly in the hands of EA, Bioware, or any other merchant of any kind. I research food when deciding what I'll shop for, I read about medical procedures before I have them, I research utilities before I buy/install them, same with cars and hygiene products.
Its an individuals choice and responsibility to take care of themself. I don't expect EA (or any merchant, unless that's explicitly the service they're providing) to take responsibility for my well being. which means I
do expect them not to be in a position to damage that well being.
It's my face I'll take care of it, I don't expect EA to keep my nose from getting cut off, but that means they don't get to be in charge of my face in any way even if "they probably won't cut my nose off" or "their actions likely won't cause any facial cutting of any kind". My face, a knife held by someone other than me = no deal.
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