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[Killjoy Cutter]

Wardka wrote...

Well, the only reason it was mandatory for BF3 was because BF3 was a very hyped game, and they wanted to push the Origin platform onto as many people as possible in one big swoop. It gives us customers nothing of value - and even if the privacy issues get sorted out, all it does is eat computer resources while offering nothing in return. I don't want it on my system.

This. 

Origin is entirely useless and unecessary to the customer. 

There's no way it's going onto any computer I own.

[Feanor_II]

Hey, on of the worldwide most succesfull EA game is FIFA, the PC version of FIFA 12 doesn't need Origin right?
Well, maybe there is hope.

[CenturyCrow]

Feanor_II wrote...
Hey, on of the worldwide most succesfull EA game is FIFA, the PC version of FIFA 12 doesn't need Origin right?
Well, maybe there is hope.

No. According to the FIFA page it says you're stuck with Origin software for the PC:

INSTALLATION OF THE ORIGIN CLIENT SOFTWARE AND REGISTRATION WITH ENCLOSED SINGLE-USE SERIAL CODES REQUIRED TO PLAY

[Feanor_II]

Hummmm. Doesn't anybody actually own the game or knows by experience?

EDIT: I've been checking on the Internet and yeah, it seems it requires Origin......

Modifié par Feanor_II, 12 décembre 2011 - 06:43 .

[DJ-LICE]

I will have a look at Origin when my copy of ME3 arrives, and if necessary it will be Sandboxed. For now i don't own a EA related Game that requires Origin, and if it's interested in my Personal Data, it will be dissapointed to find itself in that mentioned Sandbox. It's not illegal to protect my Personal Data from Software that should not be interrested in it.
Sure it's not nice from Origin to spy on it's users, no doubt about that but complaining will not change EA, so i have to protect my self.
It's kinda odd that paying Customers have to protect their Personal Data from Software that's intended to protect these Customers from People that play their "Backups" for free.

[vader da slayer]

djlice wrote...

I will have a look at Origin when my copy of ME3 arrives, and if necessary it will be Sandboxed. For now i don't own a EA related Game that requires Origin, and if it's interested in my Personal Data, it will be dissapointed to find itself in that mentioned Sandbox. It's not illegal to protect my Personal Data from Software that should not be interrested in it.
Sure it's not nice from Origin to spy on it's users, no doubt about that but complaining will not change EA, so i have to protect my self.
It's kinda odd that paying Customers have to protect their Personal Data from Software that's intended to protect these Customers from People that play their "Backups" for free.

wow someone else with some sense to them. its kinda amazing that all the people that complain about Origin doing something they dont like actually don't know if it does this or not and they base it off of a screen shot taken by someone (not saying this person fabricated the ss just making a point that a group of people are just going off of what someone said and aren't validating it for them selves).

on top of that none of them are looking for ways to solve the issue themselves as its obvious EA isn't changing anything. this includes moving files to a thumb drive, encrypting folders, using a sondbox program (like sandboxie, which is free) to keep Origin in its own "secluded" area on the HDD.

also for those that are google and bing illiterate Sandboxie website

and I've been using origin on my laptop and pc and nothing has been transmitted off of either computer from any other directory and I don't even do any of the above stated.

oh and Origin is currently runing (for today, monday 12/12/2011) a 40% off almost all of the games that are in its store (over 200 titles) minus swtor and a few other third party titles.

Modifié par vader da slayer, 12 décembre 2011 - 07:15 .

[charmingcharlie]

vader da slayer wrote...wow someone else with some sense to them. its kinda amazing that all the people that complain about Origin doing something they dont like actually don't know if it does this or not and they base it off of a screen shot taken by someone (not saying this person fabricated the ss just making a point that a group of people are just going off of what someone said and aren't validating it for them selves).

The privacy complaints are just ONE of the reasons why I do not want, need Origin.  However you keep trying to invalidate peoples concerns about the privacy aspect for some reason.

vader da slayer wrote.. on top of that none of them are looking for ways to solve the issue themselves as its obvious EA isn't changing anything. this includes moving files to a thumb drive, encrypting folders, using a sondbox program (like sandboxie, which is free) to keep Origin in its own "secluded" area on the HDD.

also for those that are google and bing illiterate Sandboxie website

I am a PAYING customer I should not have to "look for ways" to solve issues surrounding Origin.  However I have found a solution to the problems of using Origin though I just WON'T USE IT .

vader da slayer wrote.. and I've been using origin on my laptop and pc and nothing has been transmitted off of either computer from any other directory and I don't even do any of the above stated.

Yeah sure you have been monitoring it 24/7   As I said the privacy issue is just ONE of the things I do not like about Origin.  We get it you don't care a stuff, that is fine.  You have told us you think we are all "tin foil hat wearers" and that is your view.

vader da slayer wrote..  oh and Origin is currently runing (for today, monday 12/12/2011) a 40% off almost all of the games that are in its store (over 200 titles) minus swtor and a few other third party titles.

Not for the vast majority PC gamers they aren't since that is a US ONLY promotion (as all Origin promotions seem to be).  SO whoopey doo they are doing a promition and excluding most of the planet from that promotion unlike other DD services such as steam that included as many countries as they can in their promotions.   As a PC gamer I have to wonder why Origin keeps telling me "your money isn't good here" just because I live outside the US.

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 12 décembre 2011 - 07:43 .

[Lumikki]

vader da slayer wrote...

djlice wrote...

I will have a look at Origin when my copy of ME3 arrives, and if necessary it will be Sandboxed. For now i don't own a EA related Game that requires Origin, and if it's interested in my Personal Data, it will be dissapointed to find itself in that mentioned Sandbox. It's not illegal to protect my Personal Data from Software that should not be interrested in it.
Sure it's not nice from Origin to spy on it's users, no doubt about that but complaining will not change EA, so i have to protect my self.
It's kinda odd that paying Customers have to protect their Personal Data from Software that's intended to protect these Customers from People that play their "Backups" for free.

wow someone else with some sense to them. its kinda amazing that all the people that complain about Origin doing something they dont like actually don't know if it does this or not and they base it off of a screen shot taken by someone (not saying this person fabricated the ss just making a point that a group of people are just going off of what someone said and aren't validating it for them selves).

on top of that none of them are looking for ways to solve the issue themselves as its obvious EA isn't changing anything. this includes moving files to a thumb drive, encrypting folders, using a sondbox program (like sandboxie, which is free) to keep Origin in its own "secluded" area on the HDD.

also for those that are google and bing illiterate Sandboxie website

and I've been using origin on my laptop and pc and nothing has been transmitted off of either computer from any other directory and I don't even do any of the above stated.

oh and Origin is currently runing (for today, monday 12/12/2011) a 40% off almost all of the games that are in its store (over 200 titles) minus swtor and a few other third party titles.

I don't think you get what this thread is all about.

If you are fine with Origin client, that's your personal choice. That's fine, I'm not agaist it anyway. You can use Origin client as much you like.

How ever, who are you to deside behave of others that we all should be fine by Origin client?

We don't ask remove Origin client, we ask that people who doesn't want to use Origin client, would have choice to do so. We ask people doesn't want to be data mined by Origin client would also have that choice. We don't ask taking anything off from people who want to use Origin client or help game company to collect data. We ask allow everyone make they own choice and that includes you too.

That's what this thread is about, giving every EA's customers freedom of choice in the matter, how we want our games.

Modifié par Lumikki, 12 décembre 2011 - 08:19 .

[Luvinn]

Not to even bring up how forum bans = single player game bans. Business practices like that do no deserve customers money or support.

[SalsaDMA]

Tup3xi wrote...

Well... What info Origin collects that others for not? What for you fear? I for not quite get it. Some people are acting paranoid without any real reason.

And pardon me for being blunt, but some people make comments like the quoted one here and act like there's nothing wrong because they lack the decency to research a subject before commenting on it with remarks of acusal. Paranoid? Really?

You think it was paranoid when someone in africa objected to their passport containing a line saying "hutu" or "tutsi"?
What could they fear, right?

Or people in india objecting to caste-markings?
The NSB going through journalists files before publishings?
People in a past best forgotten being forced to wear a yellow star on their coats?

Harmless stuff, right?

If you don't understand how freedom, respect for the individual and privacy works, you need to educate yourself. There's plenty of websites that could tell you abouyt the subject. Just do a search on "why privacy matters" instead of making your silly un-educated insulting remarks about people being 'paranoid' just because you didn't bother to research the subject.

Origin went places and looked at data it had no business doing, and EA had every intent to sell that info, as evidenced by their EULA specifically mentioning this. They released that people didn't take this kind of thing easy and are now trying to backtrack with the common "it was just a misunderstanding" excuse they and other big corporations have used whenver they got taken with their pants down while trying to molest their legit customers.

Problem with EA, though, is that they keep the window open for getting "back in business" with their scheme at a later date when things have quited down, and then holding peoples purchased properties at ransom for accepting it. Stealth updating of the client and changes in their EULA on seconadary information sources is not beyond them, as shown in the past. Thus you cannot really trust they won't just change things again later on. They already shown their intents with Origin. Only thing is wether they get to go through with their schedule now or later, the way they see it.

The way I see it, Origin will never get installed on my machine cause I lost all trust in EA. If this means that I will never purchase an EA product in the future, then so be it. They can line up next to Ubisoft and Blizzard Activision in that regard for me then.

[SalsaDMA]

Badak531 wrote...

You know every time I read EA's claim that origin is used to provide better customer service it reminds me of this, go ahead and start at 0:44.

gotta love George Carlin

[Sundance31us]

SalsaDMA wrote...
And pardon me for being blunt, but some people make comments like the quoted one here and act like there's nothing wrong because they lack the decency to research a subject before commenting on it with remarks of acusal. Paranoid? Really?

You think it was paranoid when someone in africa objected to their passport containing a line saying "hutu" or "tutsi"?
What could they fear, right?

Or people in india objecting to caste-markings?
The NSB going through journalists files before publishings?
People in a past best forgotten being forced to wear a yellow star on their coats?

Harmless stuff, right?

If you don't understand how freedom, respect for the individual and privacy works, you need to educate yourself. There's plenty of websites that could tell you abouyt the subject. Just do a search on "why privacy matters" instead of making your silly un-educated insulting remarks about people being 'paranoid' just because you didn't bother to research the subject.

Origin went places and looked at data it had no business doing, and EA had every intent to sell that info, as evidenced by their EULA specifically mentioning this. They released that people didn't take this kind of thing easy and are now trying to backtrack with the common "it was just a misunderstanding" excuse they and other big corporations have used whenver they got taken with their pants down while trying to molest their legit customers.

Problem with EA, though, is that they keep the window open for getting "back in business" with their scheme at a later date when things have quited down, and then holding peoples purchased properties at ransom for accepting it. Stealth updating of the client and changes in their EULA on seconadary information sources is not beyond them, as shown in the past. Thus you cannot really trust they won't just change things again later on. They already shown their intents with Origin. Only thing is wether they get to go through with their schedule now or later, the way they see it.

The way I see it, Origin will never get installed on my machine cause I lost all trust in EA. If this means that I will never purchase an EA product in the future, then so be it. They can line up next to Ubisoft and Blizzard Activision in that regard for me then.

You're comparing Orign being required for ME3 to the Holocaust?

[Lumikki]

Sundance31us wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

What could they fear, right?

Or people in india objecting to caste-markings?
The NSB going through journalists files before publishings?
People in a past best forgotten being forced to wear a yellow star on their coats?

Harmless stuff, right?

You're comparing Orign being required for ME3 to the Holocaust?

Nope, it's metaform.

When others make choices behave of you self, it often leads not wanted result for those who aren't allowed to make they own choices. it doesn't  matter how harmless or harmful the act is, it's never ending any good for those under others force or control.

Everyone should have rights to make they own choices and not been controlled or forced by others.

[Luvinn]

^ I agree with that. I personally can't think of anything that was improved by limiting choice or taking away freedoms in the history of....well anything really.

[SalsaDMA]

Sundance31us wrote...

You're comparing Orign being required for ME3 to the Holocaust?

No, I'm comparing it with people being ignorant of the possible damages that can happen when you go with the herd mentality of claiming it is harmless to disregard the individuals right to privacy.

Being forced to be publically labeled as either "tutsi" or "hutu" certainly didn't do any of the victims of the massacre any favors, to mention another of the examples I used.

The holocaust was alot more than just a breach of privacy, but breaching peoples privacy was one of the instruments used to inflict harm upon people.

Modifié par SalsaDMA, 12 décembre 2011 - 08:57 .

[Chris Priestly]

And with the comparison of EA to war crimes and attrocities, this thread now gets closed. We tolerate a lot of name calling and negativity, but that crosses a line.

When there is new information, we will let you know. Until then, this thread is closed.



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