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[anzolino]

Ahh, I forgot: I don't have a Facebook or a Google or a Twitter account or something other like this crap!
I have a Bioware account to hear what Bioware want to say. Here is the place and nowhere else.
Ok, I was forced to have an EA account. (

[Taciter]

shep82 wrote...
No I don't and vader da slayer is not naive it's the truth.

According to the gospel of St. Shep82.. Amen!

Modifié par Taciter, 27 octobre 2011 - 11:14 .

[shep82]

ColorMeSuprised wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
I found out that Skyrim on PC uses Steam, and I wasn't happy, but I can deal with it because I only have to connect one time to activate. Any more than that = no deal.

Now that closes my pondering whether to buy Skyrim or not. I have choosen not, for who can't guess. I don't have a problem with missing out on games. I'm sad and most likely pretty furious and all around pissed, but I'm not some desparate game addict that gives up fundamental liberty rights for approximately 30 hours (in case of ME3) of fun.

DownyTif wrote...

I'm gonna be really really PISSED if
Bioware requires us to install and use Origin to play ME3 even if I buy
it at my local store. Oh and not to mention the pirates of this world
won't have to bother with this!
Behavior like that just encourages piracy.

No way around Origin  - as of now.

TheRealJayDee wrote...
This. ME3 is one of my most anticipated games ever, but there are things that are simply unacceptable.

Same goes for me. I have been really waiting for this game but EA always knows how to put one down. At least NOW I know why they pushed the release date into next year - apart from increasing their annual sales at the end of their finance year.


EDIT: @Shep82: You call downloading half of the game eventhough you have bought it in your local store acceptable? Are you serious? Eventhough it does not matter to me, however there are still people without a stable internet connection who cannot just download a 4GB file. This is ridiculous. It's retarded. And it's impudent. (No, I am not calling you these things but a certain company which two letter name I will not spell out in "fear" of being banned - for people have been banned for less)

Well you are certaintly going to miss 2 great games then. Skyrim and ME 3. As  per the last part no I see your point there.Like I said I doubt they would do that and when has anyone done that?

[Jarys]

This thread is full of the 'vocal minority.' The very noisy but loud percentage that demands change, usually through threats and/or attempts at blackmail. They have been around on most official game forums for a long time. Given how many hundreds of thousands of copies of this game sell on PC, and how many games that have constant connection requirements, be it through steam or other gaming platforms, you all just need to realize that you may eventually have to move out of your bubble of security and move into the future. Progress isn't always butterflies and rainbows, you take the bad with the good (though I really still don't see what all the crying is about).

[shep82]

Taciter wrote...

shep82 wrote...
No I don't and vader da slayer is not naive it's the truth.

According to the gospel of St. Shep.. Amen!

Origin is no different than what Steam and Blizzard is doing this is the information age we all have to accept it. It will not cause me to miss a great game.

[billy the squid]

Jarys wrote...

This thread is full of the 'vocal minority.' The very noisy but loud percentage that demands change, usually through threats and/or attempts at blackmail. They have been around on most official game forums for a long time. Given how many hundreds of thousands of copies of this game sell on PC, and how many games that have constant connection requirements, be it through steam or other gaming platforms, you all just need to realize that you may eventually have to move out of your bubble of security and move into the future. Progress isn't always butterflies and rainbows, you take the bad with the good (though I really still don't see what all the crying is about).

Yep, because Ubisofts 90% decline in PC sales after implementing the always online DRM requirement is quite clearly a winning formula.

[shep82]

billy the squid wrote...

Jarys wrote...

This thread is full of the 'vocal minority.' The very noisy but loud percentage that demands change, usually through threats and/or attempts at blackmail. They have been around on most official game forums for a long time. Given how many hundreds of thousands of copies of this game sell on PC, and how many games that have constant connection requirements, be it through steam or other gaming platforms, you all just need to realize that you may eventually have to move out of your bubble of security and move into the future. Progress isn't always butterflies and rainbows, you take the bad with the good (though I really still don't see what all the crying is about).

Yep, because Ubisofts 90% decline in PC sales after implementing the always online DRM requirement is quite clearly a winning formula.

Which they got rid of shortly after and their sales rebounded.

[DiebytheSword]

I have to agree with Shep 82 that Origin is no worse than Steam. Ubisoft's nightmare is a whole other level of bad. Steam and Origin have offline modes, Ubisoft has one too, it boots you back to desktop.

[billy the squid]

shep82 wrote...

Taciter wrote...

shep82 wrote...
No I don't and vader da slayer is not naive it's the truth.

According to the gospel of St. Shep.. Amen!

Origin is no different than what Steam and Blizzard is doing this is the information age we all have to accept it. It will not cause me to miss a great game.

Really, have you actually read the data from the process monitor whilst running both programs? Or is this Steam and Origin assumption based on what? Personally I don't like Steam much more than Origin, although it makes some vague attempt regarding self restriction, Origin simply goes a step further.

[shepskisaac]

shep82 wrote...

Which they got rid of shortly after and their sales rebounded.

Any soure with proof their sales rebounded? Becuase the fact their sales plummeted 90% since their draconian DRM was implemented is a recent news.

DiebytheSword wrote...

I have to agree with Shep 82 that Origin is no worse than Steam.

So the fact you can opt-out from Steam's datamining but you can't do the same is irrelevant?

Modifié par IsaacShep, 27 octobre 2011 - 11:29 .

[Aaleel]

IsaacShep wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Which they got rid of shortly after and their sales rebounded.

Any soure with proof their sales rebounded? Becuase the fact they sales plummeted 90% since their draconian DRM was implemented is a recent news.

As in this month recent news.

[shepskisaac]

Aaleel wrote...

As in this month recent news.

That's why I was "lul what? Sales rebounded back just in few weeks?"

[Dave of Canada]

billy the squid wrote...

Yep, because Ubisofts 90% decline in PC sales after implementing the always online DRM requirement is quite clearly a winning formula.

*looks at all the empty shelves for Battlefield 3*

They seem to be doing fine.

[Taciter]

Jarys wrote...

This thread is full of the 'vocal minority.' The very noisy but loud percentage that demands change, usually through threats and/or attempts at blackmail. They have been around on most official game forums for a long time. Given how many hundreds of thousands of copies of this game sell on PC, and how many games that have constant connection requirements, be it through steam or other gaming platforms, you all just need to realize that you may eventually have to move out of your bubble of security and move into the future. Progress isn't always butterflies and rainbows, you take the bad with the good (though I really still don't see what all the crying is about).

Very philosophical - dubious and highly subjective but hell, nothing like a bit of rhetoric to warm the ****les of the heart eh!

Not sure what you were implying in reference to the terms 'threats' and 'blackmail', if you're suggesting that the so called 'vocal minority' (and in the context of your post's theme, I'll assume you're referring to anyone who isn't 'pro-origin') are holding EA to ransom by expressing their intentions to withold their purchase of ME3 then I suggest you familiarise yourself with the concept of 'Consumer Power' and stop being such a feeble doormat.

[shepskisaac]

Dave of Canada wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

Yep, because Ubisofts 90% decline in PC sales after implementing the always online DRM requirement is quite clearly a winning formula.

*looks at all the empty shelves for Battlefield 3*

They seem to be doing fine.

For how long? People laughed at "I'm boycotting Ubisoft's games" claims as well but after some time, the 'non-existant fanboy boycott' became the reality. Their PC sales went down 90% WITHOUT corresponding lift in console sales.

[Taciter]

shep82 wrote...
Origin is no different than what Steam and Blizzard is doing this is the information age we all have to accept it. It will not cause me to miss a great game.

No, they may be similar in purpose but they're world's apart in terms of implementation. Steam's remit has very strict borders, the same cannot be said for Origin. I've already expounded on the issue a couple of pages back so I'm not inclined to do it again.

Modifié par Taciter, 27 octobre 2011 - 11:46 .

[Ghost Lightning]

lol. I love how the title of this thread is a yes or no question but there are 19 pages of stuff XD

Modifié par Ghost Lightning, 27 octobre 2011 - 11:40 .

[billy the squid]

shep82 wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

Jarys wrote...

This thread is full of the 'vocal minority.' The very noisy but loud percentage that demands change, usually through threats and/or attempts at blackmail. They have been around on most official game forums for a long time. Given how many hundreds of thousands of copies of this game sell on PC, and how many games that have constant connection requirements, be it through steam or other gaming platforms, you all just need to realize that you may eventually have to move out of your bubble of security and move into the future. Progress isn't always butterflies and rainbows, you take the bad with the good (though I really still don't see what all the crying is about).

Yep, because Ubisofts 90% decline in PC sales after implementing the always online DRM requirement is quite clearly a winning formula.

Which they got rid of shortly after and their sales rebounded.

Really? That was fast, as their latest debacle with Dust and Driver still had the DRM which required online log in every time upon launch, not a great solution either, as it was still massively criticised. Whilst Ubisoft's own 90%decline was stated in the interview, at the beginning of October of this year when an independent analyst stated the figure and saw no corresponding rise in console sales.

So unless it has rebounded incredibly quickly, I don't think Ubisoft putting online requirement for launch repairs any bridges.

Modifié par billy the squid, 27 octobre 2011 - 11:47 .

[Arcadian Legend]

There are times where I curse the fact I'm a console gamer, and there are times where I praise that fact. This is the latter.

[billy the squid]

Dave of Canada wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

Yep, because Ubisofts 90% decline in PC sales after implementing the always online DRM requirement is quite clearly a winning formula.

*looks at all the empty shelves for Battlefield 3*

They seem to be doing fine.

Isn't Battlefield 3 designed to be an online multiplayer game predominantly? It would be rather pointless to play multiplayer online, without an online connection being required wouldn't it.

[shep82]

billy the squid wrote...

shep82 wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

Jarys wrote...

This thread is full of the 'vocal minority.' The very noisy but loud percentage that demands change, usually through threats and/or attempts at blackmail. They have been around on most official game forums for a long time. Given how many hundreds of thousands of copies of this game sell on PC, and how many games that have constant connection requirements, be it through steam or other gaming platforms, you all just need to realize that you may eventually have to move out of your bubble of security and move into the future. Progress isn't always butterflies and rainbows, you take the bad with the good (though I really still don't see what all the crying is about).

Yep, because Ubisofts 90% decline in PC sales after implementing the always online DRM requirement is quite clearly a winning formula.

Which they got rid of shortly after and their sales rebounded.

Really? That was fast, as their latest debacle with Dust and Driver still had the DRM which required online log in every time upon launch, not a great solution either, as it was still massively criticised, Whilst Ubisoft's own decline was stated in the interview, at the beginning of October of this year when an independent analyst stated the figure for the decline.

So unless it has rebounded increadibly quickly, I don't think Ubisoft putting online requirement for launch repairs any bridges.

I didn't know that. I was going off of how they patched that requirement in two of their games. I hope they realize they need to do something different.

[whitey4444]

Try and keep it civil guys, don't give the mods reasons to shut another of these threads down.

There are a lot of legitimate questions in this thread that shouldn't disappear, in a (possibly vain) hope that they get answered.

I think a questions for the Origin devs thread may be in question, although given the way it's going gangbusters with BF3, I don't fancy our chances of getting anything answered.

OperativeX wrote...

Both my Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 games were bought on Steam and therefore my saved game data is Steam-based. There is no ****ing way in hell i am buying Mass Effect 3 on Origin. NO WAY am i gonna re-download ME1 and ME2, start a new soldier just to get up to the ME3 stage. s

The save game data is on the hard drive as far as I know, so you will be able to import it easily into a non-steam version of ME3.

[shep82]

[quote]IsaacShep wrote...

[quote]shep82 wrote...

Which they got rid of shortly after and their sales rebounded.[/quote]Any soure with proof their sales rebounded? Becuase the fact their sales plummeted 90% since their draconian DRM was implemented is a recent news.[/quote]
I must have missed that.

[quote]DiebytheSword wrote...

I have to agree with Shep 82 that Origin is no worse than Steam.[/quote]So the fact you can opt-out from Steam's datamining but you can't do the same is irrelevant?

[/quote]
Yes because they are mining the exact same thing and none of it is privledged information.

[Taciter]

shep82 wrote...
I didn't know that. I was going off of how they patched that requirement in two of their games. I hope they realize they need to do something different.

Ghasp! Was that a concession?

[TheRealJayDee]

Jarys wrote...

This thread is full of the 'vocal minority.' The very noisy but loud percentage that demands change, usually through threats and/or attempts at blackmail. They have been around on most official game forums for a long time. Given how many hundreds of thousands of copies of this game sell on PC, and how many games that have constant connection requirements, be it through steam or other gaming platforms, you all just need to realize that you may eventually have to move out of your bubble of security and move into the future. Progress isn't always butterflies and rainbows, you take the bad with the good (though I really still don't see what all the crying is about).

Does. Not. Compute.