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[NPH11]

Considering we were supposed to get information on this today (Which is why Woo closed the thread), the front has been remarkably quiet. I'm fairly doubtful we'll get any news TBQH.

[Tarisch]

"EA would never sell your personally identifiable information to
anyone"
yes, but hackers dont come and ask for permission, they only take the data and sell it, or whatever. I dont trust any companie to secure my info. And there is no need to collect such info
if they "never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone"
And I have alrady enough programms that eat the resources of my PC wihle i play.

Apart form this OP I hope we dont need Origins for ME3 or the DLCs so I dont need to cancel my ME3 N7 Edition. But I think offline Mode works.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Neurotics wrote...

The joys of the console. No need for intrusive software such as Origin.

Amen to that

[anzolino]

@ironman001, can you please correct the name: it's Origin - not Origins.

@Shinian2: Sorry, but I don't understand why this discussion is an off-topic. It is of course ME3 related and not off-topic!
If I decide not to buy a game because of the DRM or Origin or whatever this decision is related to this game. In our case ME3.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Btw is it true that Origin is basically EA's spyware?

Thats kinda scary...

[Chaos-fusion]

It's only spyware it you or I do it. A big corporation does it, and it's merely data collection.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Chaos-fusion wrote...

It's only spyware it you or I do it. A big corporation does it, and it's merely data collection.

lol true, thats their excuse for invading our privacy xD

[NPH11]

Hmm. So it looks like closing the last thread based on this "info" we were supposed to get today was pretty worthless, huh?

EDIT: Well Bioware announced how the multiplayer will work. And they didn't mention Origin. Hopefully that's good news.

www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-12-ea-details-mass-effect-3-online-pass

Modifié par NPH11, 13 octobre 2011 - 02:04 .

[20thCenturyGhost]

NPH11 wrote...

Hmm. So it looks like closing the last thread based on this "info" we were supposed to get today was pretty worthless, huh?

EDIT: Well Bioware announced how the multiplayer will work. And they didn't mention Origin. Hopefully that's good news.

www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-12-ea-details-mass-effect-3-online-pass

I wouldn't get my hopes up because they failed to mention Origin in the context of multiplayer. They are trying to prevent a mass cancellation of preorders.

Based on what I've heard they were already panicked by the volume of canceled preorders, and don't want it to snowball by announcing the Origin requirement, which will be built in by the usual so called "free" day one DLC trick they usually pull: e.g. that "free" DLC will require Origin.

The "free"  DLC for ME3 is the Prothean mission and teammate. And it's about as optional as Shale was in DA:O, which is to say, not genuinely optional if you want to play the game as it was intended.

Like Shale in DA:O, or Sebastian in DA2, this character, and mission, was designed in from the outset, but cut for the explicit purpose of extracting more cash from the fans as a DLC gateway.

Just remember in the future that when it comes to matters like this:

It's very easy to tell the truth because all you have to be is honest.

It's only when they are lying to you that they require more time to come up with a "statement". It's hard to keep all the dissembling that dishonesty requires consistent because you have to keep track of exactly what lie you told to which person.

Bioware is still working on their "statement".

Origin is a requirement to play ME3.

Modifié par 20thCenturyGhost, 13 octobre 2011 - 02:52 .

[Radui]

Greetings ladys and gents.I belive i have a solution for the origins problem.Its more expensive but i belive that my privacy and Mass Effect3 are worth it.So how do i get to play it without origins peaking through my stuff?I get myself a new hardrive and a new OS licence .When i want to play i will remove the old hard drive and replace it with a lets call it public drive.Its not the best way but i get to keep my stuff private and get to play game too. Since i will be the proud owner of a new harddrive i will install on it all the games that require this kind of software.The sad truth is that this kind of shenanigans will become the norm for the major software companies.
Hope that my rant does not land the topic right in black hole but i really had to write this because from what i saw and read about ME3 it will be a sad not to play it because EA likes to play Big Brother.
Best regards from Romania.

Modifié par Radui, 13 octobre 2011 - 03:07 .

[Valdrane78]

Thankfully I do not have to worry about this, seeing as how I play the ME game son my 360. However, I feel for you as I refused to let my wife put her Sims games on my comp due to Origin.

[United_Strafes]

I thought Dragon Age and Mass Effect were seperate franchises...har har.

[slimgrin]

thatguy212 wrote...

I honestly don't see what the big deal is, they were nice enough to tell you that they'd be collecting your info even though they don't actually have to tell you, lots of things collect your info without informing you, google, ebay, facebook, some anti-virus software, etc

It's these kind of responses that make me rage.

I don't want Origin on my PC. 

Modifié par slimgrin, 13 octobre 2011 - 05:11 .

[didymos1120]

United_Strafes wrote...

I thought Dragon Age and Mass Effect were seperate franchises...har har.

Yeah, I'd love to know what genius at EA thought "Origin" was just the ticket for this new branding initiative. 

[ironman001]

I think that not answer is as always an answer from EAware(Bioware) yes you need Origin on your to play ME3 ty Bioware you going lower and lower. Your lost you soul to money i feel sad for ya.

[N0-Future]

So were still waiting for that answer on Origin that Bioware promised us?

[Bogsnot1]

ironman001 wrote...

Neurotics say that to PS3 players when they where attack by hackers only X-Box is still safe i think:)

You do realise it was the PSN account servers that got hacked, and not the game servers or consoles themselves?
Theres no reason why the same thing cannot happen to the MS servers which host your Xbox accounts.  

I cant decide if I find it amusing, or disconcerting, that people are willing to accept rumours and FUD* as the truth without doing any actual reasearch into the facts themselves. Before complaining about Origin's T*C's, I suggest you go along and look at Facebook's, and then comment which is the more sinister.
Hint:
EA: You are their customer
Facebook: You are their product whom they sell to their customers (Advertising)

*FUD = Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt

Modifié par Bogsnot1, 13 octobre 2011 - 07:15 .

[N0-Future]

Found this, make of it what you will...

INTERNET CONNECTION REQUIRED FOR PRODUCT
ACTIVATION. INTERNET CONNECTION, EA/ORIGIN ACCOUNT, ACCEPTANCE OF PRODUCT AND ORIGIN END USER LICENSE AGREEMENTS, INSTALLATION OF THE ORIGIN CLIENT SOFTWARE (WWW.ORIGIN.COM/ABOUT) AND REGISTRATION WITH ENCLOSED SINGLE-USE SERIAL CODE(S) REQUIRED TO PLAY, ACCESS BONUS CONTENT (IF ANY) AND ACCESS ONLINE SERVICES. SERIAL CODE REGISTRATION IS LIMITED TO ONE EA/ORIGIN ACCOUNT PER SERIAL CODE. SERIAL CODE(S) ARE NON-TRANSFERABLE ONCE USED. EULAS AND ADDITIONAL DISCLOSURES CAN BE FOUND AT WWW.EA.COM/1/PRODUCT-EULAS. EA ONLINE PRIVACY POLICY AND TERMS OF SERVICE CAN BE FOUND AT AT WWW.EA.COM. YOU MUST BE 13+ TO ACTIVATE SOFTWARE, ACCESS ONLINE FEATURES AND REGISTER FOR AN EA/ORIGIN ACCOUNT. EA MAY RETIRE ONLINE FEATURES AFTER 30 DAYS NOTICE POSTED ON WWW.EA.COM/2/SERVICE-UPDATES. EA MAY PROVIDE CERTAIN INCREMENTAL CONTENT AND/OR UPDATES FOR NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE, IF AND WHEN AVAILABLE.

This is for Mass effect 3 / in the EULA's section

Modifié par N0-Future, 13 octobre 2011 - 07:15 .

[Aliens Crew]

Anzolino is right. The discussion about Origin is not belonging to offtopic, because if it will be required for ME 3, than I will not buy the game. That is a fact.

I don't need EAs Spyware on my harddrive. And I will not buy a new harddrive or computer just for playing one game. That's not worthy enough for a leisure time activity.

Well, BioWare. Where is your answer to the big question? Will we require origin to play ME 3?

Will we get an answer for this question? Or will you be falling in "the big sleep" again?

[Bogsnot1]

N0-Future wrote...

Found this, make of it what you will...

INTERNET CONNECTION REQUIRED FOR PRODUCT
ACTIVATION. INTERNET CONNECTION, EA/ORIGIN ACCOUNT, ACCEPTANCE OF PRODUCT AND ORIGIN END USER LICENSE AGREEMENTS, INSTALLATION OF THE ORIGIN CLIENT SOFTWARE (WWW.ORIGIN.COM/ABOUT) AND REGISTRATION WITH ENCLOSED SINGLE-USE SERIAL CODE(S) REQUIRED TO PLAY, ACCESS BONUS CONTENT (IF ANY) AND ACCESS ONLINE SERVICES. SERIAL CODE REGISTRATION IS LIMITED TO ONE EA/ORIGIN ACCOUNT PER SERIAL CODE. SERIAL CODE(S) ARE NON-TRANSFERABLE ONCE USED. EULAS AND ADDITIONAL DISCLOSURES CAN BE FOUND AT WWW.EA.COM/1/PRODUCT-EULAS. EA ONLINE PRIVACY POLICY AND TERMS OF SERVICE CAN BE FOUND AT AT WWW.EA.COM. YOU MUST BE 13+ TO ACTIVATE SOFTWARE, ACCESS ONLINE FEATURES AND REGISTER FOR AN EA/ORIGIN ACCOUNT. EA MAY RETIRE ONLINE FEATURES AFTER 30 DAYS NOTICE POSTED ON WWW.EA.COM/2/SERVICE-UPDATES. EA MAY PROVIDE CERTAIN INCREMENTAL CONTENT AND/OR UPDATES FOR NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE, IF AND WHEN AVAILABLE.

This is for Mass effect 3 / in the EULA's section

Thats listed for Digital Purchases from the the online store, but we still dont know if it will be required for the disk version.

[Aliens Crew]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

ironman001 wrote...

Neurotics say that to PS3 players when they where attack by hackers only X-Box is still safe i think:)

You do realise it was the PSN account servers that got hacked, and not the game servers or consoles themselves?
Theres no reason why the same thing cannot happen to the MS servers which host your Xbox accounts.  

I cant decide if I find it amusing, or disconcerting, that people are willing to accept rumours and FUD* as the truth without doing any actual reasearch into the facts themselves. Before complaining about Origin's T*C's, I suggest you go along and look at Facebook's, and then comment which is the more sinister.
Hint:
EA: You are their customer
Facebook: You are their product whom they sell to their customers (Advertising)

*FUD = Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt

I don't have a facebook-account because of that! Any further question?

If we are the EAs customers, when why they are treating as like sheeps, they can shear as they want? Why must we install origin to play a SP-Game? Doesn't trust EA their customers? Why should we do this in this case?

[N0-Future]

We don't know for sure but I think we know at this point which way the wind is blowing, or maybe I'm just pessimistic.

[MarauderESP]

this is why games get pirated, well Origin = cancel preorder , then wait a couple of days to see if there is a crack, if it is then ill get it if not well theres youtube, i´ve already canceled my BF3 preorder, its a shame i have the rest of the series, but well if the want it this way, they will have it ^^

[Wittand25]

Valdrane78 wrote...

Thankfully I do not have to worry about this, seeing as how I play the ME game son my 360. However, I feel for you as I refused to let my wife put her Sims games on my comp due to Origin.

You are aware that both Microsoft and Sony already do collect your data right ?

It is nearly impossible to avaoid data collecting as soon as you are online, and frankly speaking I fail to see what the big problem is if EA knows my graphic card, my operating system or whom my Hawke is banging in the current playthrough.