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[Taciter]

Aawww.. look at that... a blossoming friendship! haha

Modifié par Taciter, 28 octobre 2011 - 11:38 .

[Soul Cool]

Taciter wrote...

Aawww.. looked at that... a blossoming friendship! haha

Yes, and now i have a headache. I am going to bed now, so if anyone has anything they want me to address or what-have-you, I shall reply sometime later today! 

[Taciter]

Soul Cool wrote...

Taciter wrote...
Aawww.. looked at that... a blossoming friendship! haha

Yes, and now i have a headache. I am going to bed now, so if anyone has anything they want me to address or what-have-you, I shall reply sometime later today!

Hahah... okay Soul... have a good one matey!

[The_11thDoctor]

So far no Bioware stating that it wont be required to play, Check. Ill wait a week and check in again. Im not getting it if Origin is required. There's plenty to play out there. I want to finish the story but Bioware is doing everything in it's power to make me not pick it up right now...

[Killjoy Cutter]

Soul Cool wrote...

Lumikki wrote...

Soul Cool wrote...

Lumikki wrote...
Why you think they would need to scan hard drive?
All information what they want is in Windows register file and softwares settings files. That's very small amount of data.

So you admit they're taking useless data that has literally zero relevance to your actual privacy? Good to know.

What hell are you smoking?
Those data is my actual privacy.

The only relevant data in there are things that a conventional program cannot gain access to. If EA is attempting to gain access to any system critical files (i.e. SAM), they are violating several laws and subject to basically the wrath of god descending on them in the form of very unpleasent federal agents (at least in the United States). They are not that stupid. If they are, EA will very shortly cease to exist because there are too many computer literate people playing their games.

Edit: I give up. Let me go find my tinfoil hat.

ANY information that ANY software sends off to someone else that is not directly related to the primary functionality  of that particular software is, IMO, a violation of privacy.  EA has no need and no right to know anything about anything that is going on on my computer, or anyone else's.

[TheRealJayDee]

I'm just watching Battlefield 3 for PC gettting frickin' destroyed on amazon.de for the launch/Origin related problems. It has already easily surpassed Assassin's Creed 2 in terms of negative reception. Don't know how it is elsewhere, but I've never seen a backlash of that magnitude on my amazon. Guess that's the downside of having a huge audience.

[ColorMeSuprised]

TheRealJayDee wrote...

I'm just watching Battlefield 3 for PC gettting frickin' destroyed on amazon.de for the launch/Origin related problems. It has already easily surpassed Assassin's Creed 2 in terms of negative reception. Don't know how it is elsewhere, but I've never seen a backlash of that magnitude on my amazon. Guess that's the downside of having a huge audience.

I'm reading the comments, too. If people could give the game a zero they would.

[ironman001]

This comment from Amazon.com on BattleField 3 and Origin and there's many more comment like this:
(-)Origin: What in the world were they thinking here? Why do I need a web browser to start up my game? BF2 uses the web to log me in, but I don't have to have a browser open, constantly running in the background as I play. Why do I need a 3rd party application to play a game?
If the ME 3 will required Origin then thing more or less will look the same or maybe ever worst.
PS. Once again sorry for me English.
PS2. Maybe EA will learn a lesson from it but personally i think that they will not.

[DownyTif]

Lumikki wrote...

DownyTif wrote...

shep82 wrote...

TheRealJayDee wrote...

ColorMeSuprised wrote...

Same goes for me: If ME3 needs a constant online connection and if I have to download half of the game from Origin to play it because they only put half on the DVD, I will not buy it. I have never used Steam and I will never use Origin. Period.

This. ME3 is one of my most anticipated games ever, but there are things that are simply unacceptable.

Then you will miss out. Even if they do this (I doubt it) I hardly call that unnacceptable.

You don't mean that do you? A single player game on a PC... really don't think people hating Origin will miss out ME3... Bioware will only hurt themselves if Origin is required.

Yes, some of us will not even buy ME3 if Origin is forced install without ability remove it. Why it's so hard to believe?

I don't need to play games, I play for fun, but I NEVER sacriface my privacy and security because my entertainment.

It's not about hating. It's about privacy and security of your computer and your self. If we people just let others to do what ever they want to us, then we deserve everyting what's comming to us. Oh, nothing bad has happen yet to me, it's really bad excuse to be careless with you security and privacy.

So true. And if Origin is required for ME3, I'm certain Bioware (even if it is not in their power to decide) will suffer what Ubisoft has (for PC gaming). ME3 will be one of the most hacked game in history!

The PC gaming companies do everything in their power to restrict PC gaming to be really really sure that us honest consumers buy the original game. The only thing that it does is making gamers really angry and encouraging piracy. It's a good thing that companies like Stardock exist! They have created the "Gamer's Bill of Rights", a bill that they endorse in their games and are trying to push to other companies. EA is probably laughing at them though...

The Bill of Rights:
www.gamersbillofrights.com/

An old news about Impulse (formely created by Stardock, but sold to Gamestop):
www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/90535-Stardocks-DRM-Solution-Is-Gooey

[Robhuzz]

@Ironman

Exactly my thoughts. Why make installing and getting a game to start a freaking nightmare when it can be as simple as insert dvd, click 'install', wait for the game to install, click 'play'?

[DanaScu]

TheRealJayDee wrote...

I'm just watching Battlefield 3 for PC gettting frickin' destroyed on amazon.de for the launch/Origin related problems. It has already easily surpassed Assassin's Creed 2 in terms of negative reception. Don't know how it is elsewhere, but I've never seen a backlash of that magnitude on my amazon. Guess that's the downside of having a huge audience.

Out of curiosity I checked my Amazon. People definitely aren't happy, and some of them noted the "awesome" tech support, complete with a half hour wait on the phone....

http://www.amazon.co...erBy=addOneStar


Any game that requires me to deal with Origin/EAdownloader and EA tech non-support is on my "never touch even if free" list. 

Modifié par DanaScu, 28 octobre 2011 - 02:42 .

[shepskisaac]

User comments on MetaCritic ain't great either. The majority of negative reviews focuses on what kind of a pain in the arse is to get the game play

[Sanunes]

I am going to continue to have hope that Origin won't be required for Mass Effect 3 because the online portion of the game is co-op and the only reason why I could understand it being mandatory is if there was a deathmatch option. I just wish BioWare would make some announcement, for they have announced that The Old Republic won't require Origin.

[ColorMeSuprised]

Some people say they tried installing Battlefield since Wednesday. People who were lucky needed about 3 hours and had to download lots of stuff. Well, well, I don't want to know what they downloaded "besides" the needed applications. You even find youtube videos about the trial of installing the game.

Modifié par ColorMeSuprised, 28 octobre 2011 - 03:31 .

[Feanor_II]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

Is there any proof for the allegation that Origin will be required to play ME3?

Yes, it is.

Just now I had the idea to checks EA-BW-Origin Webs if I could find out something.
store.origin.com/store/eaemea/es_ES/DisplayProductDetailsPage/ThemeID.850300/productID.230773600
This is the preorder page for ME3 digital CE

SE NECESITA UNA CONEXIÓN A INTERNET PARA LA ACTIVACIÓN DEL PRODUCTO. SE NECESITA UNA CONEXIÓN A INTERNET, UNA CUENTA DE EA/ORIGIN, LA ACEPTACIÓN DE LOS ACUERDOS DE LICENCIA DE USUARIO FINAL DEL PRODUCTO Y ORIGIN, LA INSTALACIÓN DEL SOFTWARE DE CLIENTE DE ORIGIN Y EL REGISTRO CON EL NÚMERO DE SERIE DE UN SOLO USO INCLUIDO PARA JUGAR

Translated:
It's necesary an internet connection to activate the product. It's necesary an internet connection, an EA/Origin account, acceptance of both the product's and Origin's EULA, the installation of Origin's client software and the registration wirh the one-use included serial number to play.

[DownyTif]

Feanor_II wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

Is there any proof for the allegation that Origin will be required to play ME3?

Yes, it is.

Just now I had the idea to checks EA-BW-Origin Webs if I could find out something.
store.origin.com/store/eaemea/es_ES/DisplayProductDetailsPage/ThemeID.850300/productID.230773600
This is the preorder page for ME3 digital CE

SE NECESITA UNA CONEXIÓN A INTERNET PARA LA ACTIVACIÓN DEL PRODUCTO. SE NECESITA UNA CONEXIÓN A INTERNET, UNA CUENTA DE EA/ORIGIN, LA ACEPTACIÓN DE LOS ACUERDOS DE LICENCIA DE USUARIO FINAL DEL PRODUCTO Y ORIGIN, LA INSTALACIÓN DEL SOFTWARE DE CLIENTE DE ORIGIN Y EL REGISTRO CON EL NÚMERO DE SERIE DE UN SOLO USO INCLUIDO PARA JUGAR

Translated:
It's necesary an internet connection to activate the product. It's necesary an internet connection, an EA/Origin account, acceptance of both the product's and Origin's EULA, the installation of Origin's client software and the registration wirh the one-use included serial number to play.

This is for the digital CE edition bought on Origin. For sure it will take Origin! People here are asking about the retail version in stores.

[ColorMeSuprised]

Feanor_II wrote...
Just now I had the idea to checks EA-BW-Origin Webs if I could find out something.
store.origin.com/store/eaemea/es_ES/DisplayProductDetailsPage/ThemeID.850300/productID.230773600
This is the preorder page for ME3 digital CE

Isn't that because it would be "hypothetically" bought via Origin?

I might be in denial, but I still hope EA changes their mind and it will be available without Origin if bought via local store.

[Lumikki]

Yeah, I think the digital copy of ME3 would be buyed from origin store anyway, even if origin client isn't part of ME3. How ever, those comment in amazon about origin client doesn't look good at all. So, many issues and i think no-one sayed anything good about origin client. But I have been agaist origin client anyway for other reasons.

Modifié par Lumikki, 28 octobre 2011 - 03:54 .

[TheKillerAngel]

The title of this thread is exceptionally misleading since the OP offers no decisive proof for it.

[TheRealJayDee]

DanaScu wrote...

Out of curiosity I checked my Amazon. People definitely aren't happy, and some of them noted the "awesome" tech support, complete with a half hour wait on the phone....

http://www.amazon.co...erBy=addOneStar

That's actually pretty tame if compared to the german amazon. I'll just leave the link here, even if you don't understand what is written I think the numbers speak for themselves:

http://www.amazon.de...howViewpoints=1

[shepskisaac]

TheRealJayDee wrote...

That's actually pretty tame if compared to the german amazon. I'll just leave the link here, even if you don't understand what is written I think the numbers speak for themselves:

http://www.amazon.de...howViewpoints=1

LOL even if you don't know a single word in German, just seeing 'Origin' in all these 1 star reviews says it all xD

Modifié par IsaacShep, 28 octobre 2011 - 04:27 .

[Homey C-Dawg]

Like many others I am hoping against hope that Origin will not be required for ME3 retail.

I'm not too optimistic about it though. EA has a long history of not realizing that it's shooting itself in the foot until the damage is done.

Since "Bioware is EA, and EA is Bioware (according to Bioware)" I'm of the opinion that it's fairly certain ME3 will require Origin even with boxed copies, and Bioware will say nothing about it unless/until they actually have to.

Modifié par Homey C-Dawg, 28 octobre 2011 - 04:28 .

[xCirdanx]

IsaacShep wrote...
LOL even if you don't know a single word in German, just seeing 'Origin' in all these 1 star reviews says it all xD

Well i understand every word and people are really upset, rightfully so i think. Personaly i don´t want to be forced to install any additional software to play a game, but for Mass Effect 3 i would, and would even deal with problems. However i will still not buy it because its one big f*cking spyware you have to agree to. (you can call it what you want but they can use it as such, so it is at last also "spyware")

The EULA may be perfectly fine in the US, but when it comes to personal informations and the use of them (and some other clauses as well) it´s simply against the law in most if not all european countries.

[MartinDN]

I dont think ea are breaking many records with battlefield 3, but the one they are sure to get, is the most universal hatred over every language! lol its funny in german, funny in spanish, and especially funny in english - but most of all it is kind of sad, i played every privelaged at a friends house i was lucky to without infecting my pc, its a shame EA have done this - even if it wasnt a spyware origin is ****.

http://www.amazon.co...D/dp/B004MKM958

Modifié par MartinDN, 28 octobre 2011 - 05:51 .

[ColorMeSuprised]

IsaacShep wrote...
LOL even if you don't know a single word in German, just seeing 'Origin' in all these 1 star reviews says it all xD

Yeah, and since I last checked there are 100 more 1-star reviews.

And the 5-stars reviews mostly contain instructions on how to clean up your hard drive and how to change your settings or from some unknown employees of a certain company... And even in the 5-stars reviews most talk about issues with installing and such. I think you have to create three accounts and use three applications to even get to the "launcher".


But finally Spiegel-online, one of Germans more reputable information mags picked up on the story and even lawyers and judges deal with this problem since the EULA is clearly a violation of German laws and as one lawyer put it: One cannot abolish laws in the country of their customers.

Of course, EA refuses to answer to any questions.

Modifié par ColorMeSuprised, 28 octobre 2011 - 08:53 .