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[Gabey5]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

How about they give us the choice of buying the disks and installing the game and running the game as a real piece of software, without the need for BS like Origins OR Steam.

That would be an easy way for pirates to do their thing, so it's not going to happen.

pirates can still get around origin

[ColorMeSuprised]

Chris Priestly wrote...

You are welcome to continue to discuss this topic until we can give you clarification on the issue.

HOWEVER, discussion of piracy, cracking games, ways to get around copy protection and similar comments will result in people being banned and the discussion closed. We do not allow such discussion here.

Please acknowledge this warning, firends.

[Aeowyn]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

How about they give us the choice of buying the disks and installing the game and running the game as a real piece of software, without the need for BS like Origins OR Steam.

That would be an easy way for pirates to do their thing, so it's not going to happen.

Pirates will always find a way to pirate something and thinking that Origin and Steam will be able to stop it is naive. It doesn't matter how tightly EA pulls the leash, in the end, the only ones who suffer from it are the paying customers. 

[Homey C-Dawg]

Please stop talking about piracy guys. It'll only hurt our case.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Aeowyn wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

How about they give us the choice of buying the disks and installing the game and running the game as a real piece of software, without the need for BS like Origins OR Steam.

That would be an easy way for pirates to do their thing, so it's not going to happen.

Pirates will always find a way to pirate something and thinking that Origin and Steam will be able to stop it is naive. It doesn't matter how tightly EA pulls the leash, in the end, the only ones who suffer from it are the paying customers.

Which is why I said an "easy" way: doing it that way would practically be akin to welcoming pirates. It's really a lose-lose situation; you're basically choosing between bad and worse.

[Trayno]

Chris Priestly wrote...
... until we can give you clarification on the issue......

Any reasonable estimates as to when said clarification can be given? 

Hopefully in time to cancel the preorder should it turn out that Origin will be required.

Greetings,
Trayno

[Stardusk78]

Apparently due to the efforts of many protesting Germans and laws in Germany, the EULA of Origin has been officially changed.

[ironman001]

Chris Priestly wrote...



You are welcome to continue to discuss this topic until we can give you clarification on the issue.

HOWEVER, discussion of piracy, cracking games, ways to get around copy protection and similar comments will result in people being banned and the discussion closed. We do not allow such discussion here.

I agree with Mr. Priestly with one exeption you can bann people for what you think is talk about piracy and so on but if you close this discussion then just show as that you look of way to close are mouth and i have to open another topic with the same name again and again and again:devil:.
So people no talking about piracy as i say 3 times already:P

Modifié par ironman001, 31 octobre 2011 - 10:21 .

[Chris Priestly]

trayno wrote...

Any reasonable estimates as to when said clarification can be given? 

Hopefully in time to cancel the preorder should it turn out that Origin will be required.

Greetings,
Trayno

No estimate yet, but  it is in progress. Since you can cancel up to day of launch, this does give a little buffer.

[anzolino]

Thanks, Chris, for the "in progress" info.

[ColorMeSuprised]

Chris Priestly wrote...

trayno wrote...

Any reasonable estimates as to when said clarification can be given? 

Hopefully in time to cancel the preorder should it turn out that Origin will be required.

Greetings,
Trayno

No estimate yet, but  it is in progress. Since you can cancel up to day of launch, this does give a little buffer.

Yup, thank you for the info.

[Johnsen1972]

IsaacShep wrote...

Johnsen1972 wrote...

Ok read the EULA a bit more. It seems they will change the EULA for the WHOLE world.... checking more.

They will finally change the EULA for the entire world? Where did you hear it?

The new EULA that has been presented seems to be for the whole world. Not 100% sure about that, Im not a lawyer, dont nail me on this...

Statement from EA Germany regarding Origin

[Johnsen1972]

Chris Priestly wrote...

trayno wrote...

Any reasonable estimates as to when said clarification can be given? 

Hopefully in time to cancel the preorder should it turn out that Origin will be required.

Greetings,
Trayno

No estimate yet, but  it is in progress. Since you can cancel up to day of launch, this does give a little buffer.

That gives me hope 

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Well I'm glad they kept this one open after closing my thread.

[ironman001]

Shinian2 wrote...

Well I'm glad they kept this one open after closing my thread.

Hey just love me.

Now back to the topic glad that someone of moderators at last say something.
PS. Wow we have more then 1000 replies and 10000 views power to the people:)

[Feanor_II]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Wittand25 wrote...
Statement from EA Germany regarding Origin

Well, this does indeed look quite a bit different. They explicitly say they'll collect no data which have no connection to the application (meaning Origin). There is no agreement any more to collect data from anywhere on your computer. No mention of giving data to third parties as well. I haven't analyzed every detail, and it still has one or two things possibly null and void under German law, but not in the part about data collection. Mostly it looks acceptable. Not too different from Steam if I recall things correctly.

Now they need to correct the license agreement for the other countries as well.

Yeah, they changed the EULA, but..... ¿what about the software? they can change the EULA as many times as they but, while the software isn't changed and contnues behaving the same way......

[ColorMeSuprised]

ironman001 wrote...

Shinian2 wrote...

Well I'm glad they kept this one open after closing my thread.

Hey just love me.

Now back to the topic glad that someone of moderators at last say something.
PS. Wow we have more then 1000 replies and 10000 views power to the people:)

And BF3 is finally ranked with just 1-star. Enough 1-star reviews to cancel out the other votes. (No, I'm not malicious. )

[Johnsen1972]

ColorMeSuprised wrote...


And BF3 is finally ranked with just 1-star. Enough 1-star reviews to cancel out the other votes. (No, I'm not malicious. )

Amazon.de deleted a lot of reviews. Im pretty sure that whould have been 4000+

[ColorMeSuprised]

Johnsen1972 wrote...

ColorMeSuprised wrote...


And BF3 is finally ranked with just 1-star. Enough 1-star reviews to cancel out the other votes. (No, I'm not malicious. )

Amazon.de deleted a lot of reviews. Im pretty sure that whould have been 4000+

Maybe, maybe not - since people copied their deleted reviews into the comments again. =) And I doubt they deleted 1500 reviews.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

ironman001 wrote...

Shinian2 wrote...

Well I'm glad they kept this one open after closing my thread.

Hey just love me.

Now back to the topic glad that someone of moderators at last say something.
PS. Wow we have more then 1000 replies and 10000 views power to the people:)

Yeah it was nice that Chris commented that it was ok. Mine was closed for drifting off topic I think

[SalsaDMA]

ColorMeSuprised wrote...

ironman001 wrote...

Shinian2 wrote...

Well I'm glad they kept this one open after closing my thread.

Hey just love me.

Now back to the topic glad that someone of moderators at last say something.
PS. Wow we have more then 1000 replies and 10000 views power to the people:)

And BF3 is finally ranked with just 1-star. Enough 1-star reviews to cancel out the other votes. (No, I'm not malicious. )

when I look now, there are 2400 1 star reviews, and one of the one star reviews have 2519 customers out of 2577 finding it as helpfull...

I would wager that is an indication that there are more people than the registered and displayed votes agreeing with there being a problem.

[ColorMeSuprised]

SalsaDMA wrote...

ColorMeSuprised wrote...

ironman001 wrote...

Shinian2 wrote...

Well I'm glad they kept this one open after closing my thread.

Hey just love me.

Now back to the topic glad that someone of moderators at last say something.
PS. Wow we have more then 1000 replies and 10000 views power to the people:)

And BF3 is finally ranked with just 1-star. Enough 1-star reviews to cancel out the other votes. (No, I'm not malicious. )

when I look now, there are 2400 1 star reviews, and one of the one star reviews have 2519 customers out of 2577 finding it as helpfull...

I would wager that is an indication that there are more people than the registered and displayed votes agreeing with there being a problem.

I guess the Onlinepetition (which I cannot access anymore ) with it's over 7000 votes is a good indication as well.

Modifié par ColorMeSuprised, 31 octobre 2011 - 11:17 .

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

SalsaDMA wrote...


when I look now, there are 2400 1 star reviews, and one of the one star reviews have 2519 customers out of 2577 finding it as helpfull...

I would wager that is an indication that there are more people than the registered and displayed votes agreeing with there being a problem.

Why? Is it backlash over Origin or does the game suck? lol

[Johnsen1972]

Shinian2 wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...


when I look now, there are 2400 1 star reviews, and one of the one star reviews have 2519 customers out of 2577 finding it as helpfull...

I would wager that is an indication that there are more people than the registered and displayed votes agreeing with there being a problem.

Why? Is it backlash over Origin or does the game suck? lol

Most of the reviewers said that the game is 5 stars, but because of Origin they send it back and rated it with 1 star 

[ColorMeSuprised]

Shinian2 wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...


when I look now, there are 2400 1 star reviews, and one of the one star reviews have 2519 customers out of 2577 finding it as helpfull...

I would wager that is an indication that there are more people than the registered and displayed votes agreeing with there being a problem.

Why? Is it backlash over Origin or does the game suck? lol

Because of Origin.

This was one form of our protest. Now there are TV news and almost every important newspaper is writing articles about Origin.

Look here for further information. Though there is a lot more now than is posted in the opening post.

BTW: We encourage other countries to follow our example and fight for their rights.

Modifié par ColorMeSuprised, 31 octobre 2011 - 11:29 .