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[ArkkAngel007]

EA really has to just refine Origin. Draw back what systems it can access, make it not "om nom" so much of the RAM, and work on customer service. Will take awhile, but the more attention we bring to it, the more likely changes will be made.

[Vegos]

didymos1120 wrote...
If you downloaded the client, you would log in with exactly the same info you do for this forum. No new account would be created.

But I didn't download the client, so I'm not using any info to log into it, that's what I'm saying.

[Killjoy Cutter]

No, EA needs to get rid of Origin. Completely. It's a useless piece of crap that only exists to benefit EA, and does nothing for the people who buy their product.

[Killjoy Cutter]

PS: We should all be clear on the difference between an Origin account and the Origin software by now.

[Siegdrifa]

Vegos wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
If you downloaded the client, you would log in with exactly the same info you do for this forum. No new account would be created.

But I didn't download the client, so I'm not using any info to log into it, that's what I'm saying.

Yhea, we hear you, but you are using an origin account right now.

[Vegos]

Siegdrifa wrote...

Vegos wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
If you downloaded the client, you would log in with exactly the same info you do for this forum. No new account would be created.

But I didn't download the client, so I'm not using any info to log into it, that's what I'm saying.

Yhea, we hear you, but you are using an origin account right now.

I'm using an account that would double as an Origin account if I was using the Origin software. We're basically arguing semantics here.

And I started it.

Now I feel bad. Apologies.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Siegdrifa wrote...

Vegos wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
If you downloaded the client, you would log in with exactly the same info you do for this forum. No new account would be created.

But I didn't download the client, so I'm not using any info to log into it, that's what I'm saying.

Yhea, we hear you, but you are using an origin account right now.

And that's pretty much irrelevent to the Origin software.

[xCirdanx]

BounceDK wrote...

Hey guys, Ubisoft is making a required to run our games client as well.

Wouldn´t surprise me, they allready have their "online service platform" which requires you to be online all the time to play games like AC2 or Settlers 7, which was exactly the reason i haven´t bought both games.

[Vegos]

xCirdanx wrote...

BounceDK wrote...

Hey guys, Ubisoft is making a required to run our games client as well.

Wouldn´t surprise me, they allready have their "online service platform" which requires you to be online all the time to play games like AC2 or Settlers 7, which was exactly the reason i haven´t bought both games.

Does their client scan your harddisk and send data unrelated to the games you're playing back to Ubisoft?

Because if no, then there's no problem, and if yes, they should come under fire too.

[xCirdanx]

Vegos wrote...

Does their client scan your harddisk and send data unrelated to the games you're playing back to Ubisoft?

Because if no, then there's no problem, and if yes, they should come under fire too.

Well, you should ask BounceDK, i´m just not surprised they would make a client. Not sure if it´s true what he said, i haven´t read anything about it myself, and Ubisoft is dead to me anyway since their always online idea.

However, it looks like this "client" thing is becoming a trend. I´m totally against it as i have said before, i´m still waiting for an official statement about ME3 though, would be a shame to cancel my pre-oder. It has been announced that SW:TOR won´t require Origin to be played, so i still have a bit hope left.

[Siegdrifa]

Vegos wrote...

xCirdanx wrote...

BounceDK wrote...

Hey guys, Ubisoft is making a required to run our games client as well.

Wouldn´t surprise me, they allready have their "online service platform" which requires you to be online all the time to play games like AC2 or Settlers 7, which was exactly the reason i haven´t bought both games.

Does their client scan your harddisk and send data unrelated to the games you're playing back to Ubisoft?

Because if no, then there's no problem, and if yes, they should come under fire too.

You need to be connected to internet in order to play your solo game, meaning, if your internet have some problem or if their server are down, you can't play your solo game.

For reference, when AC2 was out on friday in my county, the server was down the whole weekend due to some problem on Ubisoft behalf, no need to imagine how pissed off the players was... "yeah ! i got these awsome new game and it's week end, i can play all i want !" ... LolZ Saury guyZ We ****ed up.

I'm sure the **** who got the idea about always being connected to internet to play solo game have a wifi chip shoved in his ass "today, every body have internet 24/7 right?, and internet connection never fail right ?"... Yhea sure, mother ****er.

[Vegos]

Siegdrifa wrote...

You need to be connected to internet in order to play your solo game, meaning, if your internet have some problem or if their server are down, you can't play your solo game.

Oh, yes, there's that. I keep forgetting Steam's offline mode is an exception, not a rule.

[Bogsnot1]

xCirdanx wrote...

Vegos wrote...

Does their client scan your harddisk and send data unrelated to the games you're playing back to Ubisoft?

Because if no, then there's no problem, and if yes, they should come under fire too.

Well, you should ask BounceDK, i´m just not surprised they would make a client. Not sure if it´s true what he said, i haven´t read anything about it myself, and Ubisoft is dead to me anyway since their always online idea.

However, it looks like this "client" thing is becoming a trend. I´m totally against it as i have said before, i´m still waiting for an official statement about ME3 though, would be a shame to cancel my pre-oder. It has been announced that SW:TOR won´t require Origin to be played, so i still have a bit hope left.

As an MMO, SW:TOR will have its own networking client, and thats why it wont require the Origin software. After the stunt being pulled by Origin though, I'd have a very long, caerful look through TOR's EULA before accepting it.

[Euteras]

Lukertin wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
Good luck with that law suit...

I'm soon to be a laywer, I have no qualms with bringing a retailer into small claims court. Do you think they're going to bother paying their corporate lawyers $200/hr to defend a complaint for $60?

Even if I lose the case, I win by making it more expensive for them to refuse giving me a refund to which I am legally entitled.

Mediation where I live. $ 80 game + $ 80 court cost to file suit. No lawers allowed. So they would have to send a rep. His hotel room, alone, would cost $110 a night. I think they would gladly give up the $160 to settle since they are blinded by the cost verses revenue thing.

Modifié par Euteras, 08 novembre 2011 - 03:35 .

[xCirdanx]

Bogsnot1 wrote...
As an MMO, SW:TOR will have its own networking client, and thats why it wont require the Origin software. After the stunt being pulled by Origin though, I'd have a very long, caerful look through TOR's EULA before accepting it.

Well, you have a point there, though they could have linked it to Origin. (Origin will still be the only way to buy it digital as far as i know) And because TOR being also a Bioware game, i still have hope left for ME3....

...i know i live in denial that ME3 will require Origin

[Beyshaliban]

The only thing that will force the consideration of change, let alone any change with a powerful company like EA is the greater power of unsatisfied customers.

True, it looks like companies care more their revenues. Imagine the suffering to those revenues if a mass of angry customers cancel their orders or return their products. We, the customers, are producing their revenues.

We can say, "We won't buy the product." There will be a common shrug at the EA HQ most likely.

Unless we say, "We won't buy the product, and here is my pre-order cancellation / here's your product, I don't want it anymore." There will be dollar tagged numbers to prove the message. The common shrug might turn into a common pulling of hair and slight panic in the revenue forecasting department.

Modifié par Beyshaliban, 08 novembre 2011 - 08:15 .

[Bryy_Miller]

Are you guys posting on this site?

Because you have BW/EA games, right?

Then you've already used Origin.

[Beyshaliban]

The account, not the Client.

[Mister Mida]

BounceDK wrote...

Hey guys, Ubisoft is making a required to run our games client as well.
You can all thank Valve for starting this trend. We'll end up with 20 different clients all running at the same time if this keeps up. I think I need another 4gigs of ram.

Hooray for asking permission every time I want to play a goddamn game on my PC. /sarcasm

I'm definitely gonna give up on PC gaming if publishers keep shoving this crap down our throats. I've already boycotted Steam and Origin, I've no problem doing so with other clients in the future. Centralization is only good for whoever controls the system so they can go Big Brother on you. And once Steam or Origin are hacked, everybody's pretty much ****ed. Not me, though.

How ironic that I bought a high grade gaming rig earlier this year. But then again, I bought it for The Witcher 2 so it was worth it

Modifié par Mister Mida, 08 novembre 2011 - 08:34 .

[Savadrin]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Are you guys posting on this site?

Because you have BW/EA games, right?

Then you've already used Origin.

it doesn't require the origin client software to post on the forums, just an origin account with a registered/validated game on any of the platforms(xbox360/ps3/pc), although if you have the origin client, that is also the account it logs onto the origin servers with.

[Bryy_Miller]

Beyshaliban wrote...

The account, not the Client.

Somehow I fail to see how allowing EA to do it in the past is any different from allowing them to do it now, client or no.

I mean, come on, the only difference is now they have put "hey, we're datamining" in lawyer-speak.

Modifié par Bryy_Miller, 08 novembre 2011 - 08:56 .

[Lumikki]

DiebytheSword wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...

As I have pointed out previously in this thread, and others, people are confusing the Origin account (which you already have, and use to log into this site) with the Origin software.

The above image has nothing to do with the Origin spyware that EA is shoving into the PC version. Its simply asking if you want to automatically log into your Origin account, the same way ME2 had the option asking you if you wanted to automatically log into the Cerberus Network.

This a million times.  You are using your Origin account right now to post on the forum.  You use it to get your dlc, if you ever bought anything over EADM you have an Origin account.

If you have, within the last few years, signed up for anything from EA related to gaming, you have an Origin account.

Basicly you are right and wrong same time.

You are both right that Origin client and Origin account (EA's accout) are two different thing. You are right that when we manage this account and write here this forum we are connected to EA's account. You are also right that DRM checks are done by connecting EA's account. As for DLC, player doesn't have to use or buy them, but they do require EA's account for DRM check to work on PC.

How ever, you made wrong conclusion that I have to login this account when playing ME1 or ME2 games. As far I am aware this does happen one time only, what is games DRM check when game is installed. After that you never have to login this account with game software at all. You can if you want, but you don't have to.

I have my self seperated computers for gaming and internet use. Meaning my game computer doens't even have internet connection. So, when I write here and are connected the Biowares account, I don't do it with my game computer. Point is that my game computer is no connected this account, my internet "access" computer is. My internet computer has no games in it, so I don't need Origin client in it.

Modifié par Lumikki, 08 novembre 2011 - 09:23 .

[Savadrin]

Yet you have uploaded game data for both DA games.

Unless you now want to tell me that somehow it was a different service with those games.

i haven't uploaded anything, i play on 360, and don't have broadband, so no xbox live. i doubt origin would even connect to the server with my slow dialup connection.

[Vegos]

Bryy_Miller wrote...


Somehow I fail to see how allowing EA to do it in the past is any different from allowing them to do it now, client or no.

I don't remember allowing EA to gather any data except for things directly from their games?