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[MarauderESP]

why do u think they implement MP on ME3 just to need to install origin to play it also implemente other stuff like the galaxy at war readiness that also need to have origin running to work..... well....still Mr Chris is still debating how to tell us that origin will be required.....

[hangmans tree]

Lumikki wrote...

I my opinion situation looks little funny and stupid. Let see...

I buy ME3 gamebox from shop. Then I install the game to my computer, but it doesn't work because I also have to install Origin. So, I install the Origin and do the games DRM check by using Origin software for it. Then I uninstall the Origin because the software is now 100% useless, because it has done allready the one thing I needed, make the game work..

So, what's the point to install totally seperated software just to get game running?

Now if EA/Bioware think we use the Origin software for other services. I don't see any problem with it, but it should be players CHOISE. Because who says I want to use they other services. I allready have all the tools to get files from internet and so on. I don't need some companies private control/spyware softwares in my computers.

Point been, if someone wants to use origin to game control, that's they choise. But if people doesn't want this hand holding, they should have that choise too. Meaning, Origin client should not be forced for player, it should be voluntary choise for those who wants it.

Hey Lum!
I see your posts here and there with similar mistakes and I wanted to let you know:
Its choice, not choise.
3rd plural - no need for "s" like in 3rd singular: "he doesn't" but they "they don't" so its "for those who want it" not "wants it".
lastly its "their" not "they"when you speak about possesion/right etc...


What I actually wanted to write is that I agree and... I forgot what getting all cought up in the grammar and spelling

Not trying to be patronising or whatever, no ill will intended, I make a lot of mistakes too (not a native speaker).

Modifié par hangmans tree, 10 novembre 2011 - 11:43 .

[Nathander Von Eric]

I'm not going to torrent.

I don't use crack.......heh

I'm not installing Origin.

What I'm going to do is wait for Bioware to make a statement.


It's been around 2 months since we first started asking about Origin Bioware.

If it's taken this long for you guy's to find out what Origin is all about and put together a FAQ so you can relay it to us in a way that alleviates out fears.........that makes Origin even more scary.

On the other hand, if you're working on releasing ME3 without it.........I'll love you guy's forever!

[Killjoy Cutter]

Massefeckt wrote...

Yep the stupid thing is only those of us who bother to get our games legally get hassled by this. So while we stress and worry about what Origin will be doing to our PC's and have to jump through hoops just to play our games, pirates will be playing away happy and care free. It's like punching your customers in the face as they buy your products.

Exactly.

[Alex_SM]

I don't think they can release ME3 without Origin. Bioware now is part of EA, and they will follow EA strategy.

[NewRed]

If Origin is Seriously gonna be Necessary for Mass Effect 3, Does that mean ALL Future Bioware Games(Dragon Age 3) gonna need Origin?

Also wont Origin Destroy the Replay value of the Game because your gonna need Origin and Internet On Every time you play the Game.

[Massefeckt]

NewRed wrote...

If Origin is Seriously gonna be Necessary for Mass Effect 3, Does that mean ALL Future Bioware Games(Dragon Age 3) gonna need Origin?

Also wont Origin Destroy the Replay value of the Game because your gonna need Origin and Internet On Every time you play the Game.

It seems to be EA's strategy to make Origin a part of their games so I would think yes this will be on all future EA releases. Unless theres some kind of customer backlash or legal problem.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Massefeckt wrote...

NewRed wrote...

If Origin is Seriously gonna be Necessary for Mass Effect 3, Does that mean ALL Future Bioware Games(Dragon Age 3) gonna need Origin?

Also wont Origin Destroy the Replay value of the Game because your gonna need Origin and Internet On Every time you play the Game.

It seems to be EA's strategy to make Origin a part of their games so I would think yes this will be on all future EA releases. Unless theres some kind of customer backlash or legal problem.

They'll have legal troubles in several European countries. 

In the US, our best bet is simply to stop buying all EA products until Origin is eliminated.

[Gabey5]

There is also this gem in origin EULA

[Massefeckt]

Gabey5 wrote...

There is also this gem in origin EULA

Wow! I don't know how well that would hold up in court but it's so damn cheeky to even include it.

[NewRed]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Massefeckt wrote...

NewRed wrote...

If Origin is Seriously gonna be Necessary for Mass Effect 3, Does that mean ALL Future Bioware Games(Dragon Age 3) gonna need Origin?

Also wont Origin Destroy the Replay value of the Game because your gonna need Origin and Internet On Every time you play the Game.

It seems to be EA's strategy to make Origin a part of their games so I would think yes this will be on all future EA releases. Unless theres some kind of customer backlash or legal problem.

They'll have legal troubles in several European countries. 

In the US, our best bet is simply to stop buying all EA products until Origin is eliminated.

Why are All RPG Games Always Have the Hard of the Stick in the Gaming Industry.

JRPG Games are Hard to get because Localization of their Games is Expensive, Look at the Tales Series by Bandai Namco.

While RPG Games Here in the West, We Can get them but Game Companys Need Us Gamers to install A "Special" Program just to play This Games<_<

Can Us Gamers Catch a Break:(

Modifié par NewRed, 10 novembre 2011 - 03:13 .

[Taciter]

Nathander Von Eric wrote...

I'm not going to torrent.
I don't use crack.......heh
I'm not installing Origin.
What I'm going to do is wait for Bioware to make a statement.

This^

After all the anticipation of ME3's forthcoming release, I was on a dizzy high. The details regarding 'multiplayer' and 'Origin' started to emerge and my heart sank. Now I'm utterly indifferent to the whole debate - whilst Bioware/EA have procrastinated, I've discovered 'The Witcher' and with it a renewed passion for fantasy RPG's.

ME3 is off my 'must-buy' list but I'll be following the twitter feeds closely between bouts of 'Skyrim' goodness to see if any news of MP AI 'bots' emerge and of course the issue of whether Origin will be a pre-requisite to playing ME3. There's no sign yet of ME3 in Steam News so I confess, the future looks fairly bleak but only a fool counts their chickens before they've hatched.

Modifié par Taciter, 10 novembre 2011 - 04:15 .

[Raygereio]

Massefeckt wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

There is also this gem in origin EULA

Wow! I don't know how well that would hold up in court but it's so damn cheeky to even include it.

I can't talk for US law, but I know for  a fact that paragraph is utter nonsense under Dutch and EU law. Sure a EULA is technically a contract, but a contract can't force you to do anything illegal. Forcing someone to give up one of his/her basic rights happens to be illegal.

Nathander Von Eric wrote...
If it's taken this long for you guy's to find out what Origin is all about and put together a FAQ so you can relay it to us in a way that alleviates out fears.........that makes Origin even more scary.

Most likely EA is waiting to see if the BF3-Origin debacle is going to blow over before giving BioWare the go ahead to give out any sort of statement about the ME3's DRM. Don't expect any sort of info from BioWare about this any time soon.

Modifié par Raygereio, 10 novembre 2011 - 04:28 .

[Mister Mida]

Gabey5 wrote...

There is also this gem in origin EULA

EA games: trolling everyone

Seriously, this won't hold up in most courts.

[Vegos]

I don't know what they're thinking, but such an agreement is void in any country where it conflicts with the country's law.

Which is, likely the entirety of EU.

Modifié par Vegos, 10 novembre 2011 - 06:12 .

[TheRealJayDee]

Massefeckt wrote...

Yep the stupid thing is only those of us who bother to get our games legally get hassled by this. So while we stress and worry about what Origin will be doing to our PC's and have to jump through hoops just to play our games, pirates will be playing away happy and care free. It's like punching your customers in the face as they buy your products.

Nathander Von Eric wrote...

I'm not going to torrent.

I don't use crack.......heh

I'm not installing Origin.

What I'm going to do is wait for Bioware to make a statement.


It's been around 2 months since we first started asking about Origin Bioware.

If it's taken this long for you guy's to find out what Origin is all about and put together a FAQ so you can relay it to us in a way that alleviates out fears.........that makes Origin even more scary.

On the other hand, if you're working on releasing ME3 without it.........I'll love you guy's forever!

Nothing much to add to these. No Origin requirement would just be the best solution for both customers and Bioware. We've seen what Origin did to Battlefield 3 and Dice, especially in Germany. Even a perfect ME3 would definitely suffer from it, both in terms of lost sales and bad publicity (doesn't matter how much exactly), and for a less then perfect ME3 it could be devastating. Imagine DA2 with an additional Origin controversy.

Modifié par TheRealJayDee, 10 novembre 2011 - 08:18 .

[Lukertin]

Raygereio wrote...
I can't talk for US law, but I know for  a fact that paragraph is utter nonsense under Dutch and EU law. Sure a EULA is technically a contract, but a contract can't force you to do anything illegal. Forcing someone to give up one of his/her basic rights happens to be illegal.

You know for a fact? Are you a lawyer in the EU? Because if you aren't, calling something a basic right when there is no indication that it is a basic right at all is silly.

As for the US law, courts approve, in fact, they encourage, the use of binding arbitration as an alternative to litigation in contracts. It isn't illegal because you agree to arbitration in the event of a dispute (EA will even pay your costs). You don't have 'basic right' to be heard before a judge.

[Lukertin]

Vegos wrote...

I don't know what they're thinking, but such an agreement is void in any country where it conflicts with the country's law.

Which is, likely the entirety of EU.

Really? Because you guys have a trial by jury system? Because that's what is waived in the agreement (along with class actions, in preference for NEUTRAL BINDING ARBITRATION). LOL

Modifié par Lukertin, 10 novembre 2011 - 08:55 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

You is lawyer on the EUs? You is talk good like lawyer!

[/sarcasm]

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 10 novembre 2011 - 08:57 .

[Lukertin]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
You is lawyer on the EUs? You is talk good like lawyer!

[/sarcasm]

I would rather make ignorant comments regarding subjects I know nothing about.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Lukertin wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
You is lawyer on the EUs? You is talk good like lawyer!

[/sarcasm]

I would rather make ignorant comments regarding subjects I know nothing about.

You're doing a fine job so far, then.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Double Post, brought to you by crappy forum software.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 10 novembre 2011 - 09:10 .

[Lukertin]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Lukertin wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
You is lawyer on the EUs? You is talk good like lawyer!

[/sarcasm]

I would rather make ignorant comments regarding subjects I know nothing about.

You're doing a fine job so far, then.

You're doing a fine job blowing **** out of your ass, as evidenced by the fact that you haven't made a single statement disputing any statement I've made.

Modifié par Lukertin, 10 novembre 2011 - 09:21 .

[SalsaDMA]

Cut the spam of insults. It serves no purpose except an excuse for a lock.

[DownyTif]

TheRealJayDee wrote...

Massefeckt wrote...

Yep the stupid thing is only those of us who bother to get our games legally get hassled by this. So while we stress and worry about what Origin will be doing to our PC's and have to jump through hoops just to play our games, pirates will be playing away happy and care free. It's like punching your customers in the face as they buy your products.

Nathander Von Eric wrote...

I'm not going to torrent.

I don't use crack.......heh

I'm not installing Origin.

What I'm going to do is wait for Bioware to make a statement.


It's been around 2 months since we first started asking about Origin Bioware.

If it's taken this long for you guy's to find out what Origin is all about and put together a FAQ so you can relay it to us in a way that alleviates out fears.........that makes Origin even more scary.

On the other hand, if you're working on releasing ME3 without it.........I'll love you guy's forever!

Nothing much to add to these. No Origin requirement would just be the best solution for both customers and Bioware. We've seen what Origin did to Battlefield 3 and Dice, especially in Germany. Even a perfect ME3 would definitely suffer from it, both in terms of lost sales and bad publicity (doesn't matter how much exactly), and for a less then perfect ME3 it could be devastating. Imagine DA2 with an additional Origin controversy.

Before reading the bold line above, I was convinced that DA2 couldn't have been worse (I hated DA2). But yep, if Origin would have been involved at that time, hahah.