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[charmingcharlie]

Lucrece wrote... Is getting rid of Origin worth starting from scratch on a console and shelling out ~$300-600 (console CE) bucks?

I don't see how getting a console will solve the situation.  All the complaints about Origin regarding privacy and monitoring etc etc have been done on consoles for years. Microsoft and Sony know every single little thing you do on a console.  The only difference is that it's pretty hard to store personal data and documents on a console.

So if you are against Origin for reasons of privacy and monitoring then getting a console is switching one "big brother" system for another one.  If you are concerned about what Origin is doing then the only solution open to you is to NOT purchase any EA games.  You have to decide if your privacy is worth that "sacrifice"

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 19 novembre 2011 - 04:49 .

[RiouHotaru]

Okay, so we know Origin scans folders and drives, do we know what it's looking for? A virus-check scans everywhere, but ONLY looks for specifics markers (in this case, viruses) If something it scans doesn't have that marker, it ignores it. Do we know that Origin scanning a drive actually means it sends a list of everything on your drive/folder back to EA or is it only looking for something specific?

Just because it scans something doesn't means it's sending EA a list of everything on your computer. I feel this paranoia is rapidly spiraling out of control. I mean, the issue seems to be that it scans at all, but you don't even know what it's looking for. If it's looking for it's own games (ToR, BF3, etc, etc,) then that's fine. If it looks for anything else, then it's a legal issue waiting to explode.

But at that point I think people would start filing lawsuits or something. The fact there's not been one peep about Origin actually copying anything sensitive seems to suggest that while it looks in places it shouldn't, it's not actually reading every little thing you have.

Yes, it would be nice to opt out of it, like Steam lets you. But unless it's actually doing REAL damage, just peeking at your harddrive isn't really an unforgiveable crime.

[Sanunes]

I am getting my information from Origin EULA

EA knows that you care how information about you is collected, used and shared, and we appreciate your trust that we will do so carefully and sensibly.  Information about our customers is an important part of our business, and EA would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it ever use spyware or install spyware on users’ machines.  We and agents acting 37683v1 on our behalf do not share information that personally identifies you without your consent, except in rare instances where disclosure is required by law or to enforce EA’s legal rights.
In addition to information that you give EA directly, EA collects nonpersonallyidentifiable (or anonymous) information for purposes of improving our products and services, providing services to you, facilitating the provision of software updates, dynamically served content and product support as well as communicating with you.  The non-personally identifiable information that EA collects includes technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address) and operating system, as well as information about your Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware.  As noted above, this information is gathered periodically for purposes such as improving our products and services, troubleshooting bugs, and otherwise enhancing your user experience

I think people are upset about what they are gathering and not that they are gathering some information.

Edit: Cleaned up the quote.

Modifié par Sanunes, 19 novembre 2011 - 05:34 .

[RiouHotaru]

Sanunes wrote...

I am getting my information from Origin EULA

EA knows that you care how information about you is collected, used and shared, and we appreciate your trust that we will do so carefully and sensibly.  Information about our customers is an important part of our business, and EA would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it ever use spyware or install spyware on users’ machines.  We and agents acting 37683v1 on our behalf do not share information that personally identifies you without your consent, except in rare instances where disclosure is required by law or to enforce EA’s legal rights.
In addition to information that you give EA directly, EA collects nonpersonallyidentifiable (or anonymous) information for purposes of improving our products and services, providing services to you, facilitating the provision of software updates, dynamically served content and product support as well as communicating with you.  The non-personally identifiable information that EA collects includes technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address) and operating system, as well as information about your Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware.  As noted above, this information is gathered periodically for purposes such as improving our products and services, troubleshooting bugs, and otherwise enhancing your user experience

I think people are upset about what they are gathering and not that they are gathering some information.

Edit: Cleaned up the quote.

Wait, so this is right from the EULA?

...And people are upset by this?

Okay.  Wow.  I suddenly have absolutely no problem with Origin anymore.  If that's the information it's mining for, then I don't see the problem.  It's not even identifying who the information came from either.  Why this belief that privacy is being invaded if they don't even know WHO you are?

[Darth_Trethon]

Either way it is a MASSIVE violation of personal privacy to collect information about everything you do on your PC....there is no way around that. They maintain the right to change the EULA at any moment without notice so the "we won't share the information" can easily change into "we'll make public everything about you" in a minute.

People may not realize how absolutely critical it is to NEVER in any way shape or form use Origin or to agree to its EULA.

Frankly I play all my games on the 360 but this horror called Origin must be erased out of existence immediately.

If you are not outraged by this should strart being just about now.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 19 novembre 2011 - 06:02 .

[Gatt9]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Sanunes wrote...

I am getting my information from Origin EULA

EA knows that you care how information about you is collected, used and shared, and we appreciate your trust that we will do so carefully and sensibly.  Information about our customers is an important part of our business, and EA would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it ever use spyware or install spyware on users’ machines.  We and agents acting 37683v1 on our behalf do not share information that personally identifies you without your consent, except in rare instances where disclosure is required by law or to enforce EA’s legal rights.
In addition to information that you give EA directly, EA collects nonpersonallyidentifiable (or anonymous) information for purposes of improving our products and services, providing services to you, facilitating the provision of software updates, dynamically served content and product support as well as communicating with you.  The non-personally identifiable information that EA collects includes technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address) and operating system, as well as information about your Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware.  As noted above, this information is gathered periodically for purposes such as improving our products and services, troubleshooting bugs, and otherwise enhancing your user experience

I think people are upset about what they are gathering and not that they are gathering some information.

Edit: Cleaned up the quote.

Wait, so this is right from the EULA?

...And people are upset by this?

Okay.  Wow.  I suddenly have absolutely no problem with Origin anymore.  If that's the information it's mining for, then I don't see the problem.  It's not even identifying who the information came from either.  Why this belief that privacy is being invaded if they don't even know WHO you are?

If you don't see a problem,  then with all due respect,  you don't understand what you read.

First and foremost...

The non-personally identifiable information that EA collects includes technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address)

They didn't identify you,  they identified your computer,  which is the exact same thing as identifying you.  You're about as anonymous as you are driving your car with the license plate on.  The computer identification is a 1:1 with a owner.

They *specifically* differentiated between your computer and your IP address.  Which means it's either pulling your MAC addresses (Highly unlikely),  or it's generating a unique serial number by querying the hardware on your system for their respective serial numbers and generating a unique identifier from that,  which is how Microsoft's validation works.

So one database has your user name and identifier,  the other your identifier.  Theoretically,  hand (read sell) the second database over to interested parties,  any ID that contains questionable material is subpeonaed,  and then poor EA has no choice but to hand over the first database. 

You're very easily identifiable,  and far less anonymous than you are on Facebook.  Any email address can start a Facebook.  No one anywhere in the world will have the same set of hardware serial numbers you possess.

as well as information about your Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware.

Software does not mean what programs you have installed.  Software,  by definition,  means every single byte of data on your computer.  Every music file,  every movie,  every tax document,  every image.

I strongly suspect that you didn't understand what you read,  which honestly is not a poor reflection upon you,  this thing is designed to intentionally sound benign if you don't understand a fair bit about computers.

Edit:

Which actually leads to another really interesting topic...

EA can uniquely identify your computer.  Theoretically,  if EA bans you,  not only can they ban you from playing the existing single player games you've already paid them for,  they can ban you from all future games,  making it so they'll willingly and knowingly sell you discs that you cannot possibly use until you buy a new computer.

Theoretically,  an email change won't give you back access.

Gets even more interesting when you consider,  if person X buys a game,  enters activation code,  gets banned,  trades it in.  Person Y buys the used game,  tries to run it,  and...what happens?  Is it a dead disc?  Does EA autoban your new account because the activiation code is tied to a previously banned account,  locking an innocent out of all of their games and any future games?

Dangerous waters here,  and very,  very deep.

Modifié par Gatt9, 19 novembre 2011 - 06:18 .

[Lukertin]

charmingcharlie wrote...
I don't see how getting a console will solve the situation.  All the complaints about Origin regarding privacy and monitoring etc etc have been done on consoles for years. Microsoft and Sony know every single little thing you do on a console.  The only difference is that it's pretty hard to store personal data and documents on a console.

So if you are against Origin for reasons of privacy and monitoring then getting a console is switching one "big brother" system for another one.  If you are concerned about what Origin is doing then the only solution open to you is to NOT purchase any EA games.  You have to decide if your privacy is worth that "sacrifice"

It solves the problem because privacy is a nonexistent issue for me on the 360, whereas on the PC it is a matter of great concern. How you fail to understand this is beyond me.

[Darth_Trethon]

Lukertin wrote...

charmingcharlie wrote...
I don't see how getting a console will solve the situation.  All the complaints about Origin regarding privacy and monitoring etc etc have been done on consoles for years. Microsoft and Sony know every single little thing you do on a console.  The only difference is that it's pretty hard to store personal data and documents on a console.

So if you are against Origin for reasons of privacy and monitoring then getting a console is switching one "big brother" system for another one.  If you are concerned about what Origin is doing then the only solution open to you is to NOT purchase any EA games.  You have to decide if your privacy is worth that "sacrifice"

It solves the problem because privacy is a nonexistent issue for me on the 360, whereas on the PC it is a matter of great concern. How you fail to understand this is beyond me.

Exactly. Aside from that all you do on a console is play gmaes.....nothing else. Monitoring your PC is a whole different can of worms.....now you become liable for what anyyone using your PC does so if you have kids or relatives and so on EA will have details about every little aspect of your life.....who you talk to, what you buy, what software you use, and on and on and on. This goes well beyond the scope of games. Next thing you know is that if they get hacked or they sell your information or whatever you have A LOT more problems than a large credit card bill.

[CenturyCrow]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Wait, so this is right from the EULA?

...And people are upset by this?

Okay.  Wow.  I suddenly have absolutely no problem with Origin anymore.  If that's the information it's mining for, then I don't see the problem.  It's not even identifying who the information came from either.  Why this belief that privacy is being invaded if they don't even know WHO you are?

Aside from the fact that they modified the EULA to pacify German law but didn't alter Origin to stop it from scanning.
But if you're satisfied with Origin, the EULA and the TOS, then move along; wait for ME3 and enjoy it. Sure, Origin could be a harmless thing, but what do we need it for?

There's many of us that don't want the added baggage no matter what it does. We just want what we are paying for. The game. Not spyware nor anything else that EA decides we should have that has nothing to do with the game. And we're just waiting for confirmation: Will Origin will be mandatory for all versions of ME3? Can we play the game without it? Can we opt out? Is it in fact a form of DRM that we can't legally attempt to circumvent? etc.

[Darth_Trethon]

CenturyCrow wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Wait, so this is right from the EULA?

...And people are upset by this?

Okay.  Wow.  I suddenly have absolutely no problem with Origin anymore.  If that's the information it's mining for, then I don't see the problem.  It's not even identifying who the information came from either.  Why this belief that privacy is being invaded if they don't even know WHO you are?

Aside from the fact that they modified the EULA to pacify German law but didn't alter Origin to stop it from scanning.
But if you're satisfied with Origin, the EULA and the TOS, then move along; wait for ME3 and enjoy it. Sure, Origin could be a harmless thing, but what do we need it for?

There's many of us that don't want the added baggage no matter what it does. We just want what we are paying for. The game. Not spyware nor anything else that EA decides we should have that has nothing to do with the game. And we're just waiting for confirmation: Will Origin will be mandatory for all versions of ME3? Can we play the game without it? Can we opt out? Is it in fact a form of DRM that we can't legally attempt to circumvent? etc.

And make no mistake Spyware is EXACTLY what Origin is....nothing more, nothing less.

EDIT: But no the PS3 and 360 versions won't deal with Origin....Origin is a 500MB install and Sony/Microsoft already collect info about all you do on your consoles but that is strictly game related since that's all the platforms are used form.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 19 novembre 2011 - 06:46 .

[Raptor2213]

Gatt9 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Raptor2213 wrote...

 I can't think of a single DRM that's actually managed to stop piracy.

It probably deters the occasional casual, not-well-informed pirate, or those too paranoid to torrent stuff, but that's about it.

Actually,  the point of DRM isn't to stop piracy,  it's to slow it down.  A game sells the most units in it's first 4 weeks,  and the bulk of it's sales occur in the first 8 weeks.  Every week you can slow it down is *huge* right now,  if you can substantially slow it down for 8 weeks,  you saved the game's sales.

A pirate will pirate your game,  no matter what.  It's average-joe who's going to check for a torrent,  and if he can't find it,  then go buy the game.  The point of DRM is to make sure average-joe doesn't find that torrent for the first 8 weeks.

But I don't think that's the point of Origin.  The scanning is highly indicitive of an intention to sue consumers for "Pirated" media,  and to sell the info to other companies.  That's the only reason to scan the harddrive,  and the fact that they brand your computer with a unique identifier bears that out,  because they can identify exactly who has infringed.

There's just no other purpose to scanning your drive's contents,  and the smallish packet sizes reported so far indicate that it's not uploading files,  but uploading CRC's or data from file headers,  both of which could be used to identify pirated vs legitimate media.

90% of released games have a cracked copy out within the first 24 hours (Skyrim, for a recent example).  DRM's barely a speedbump for most of the hacking community. 

[Lumikki]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Okay, so we know Origin scans folders and drives, do we know what it's looking for? A virus-check scans everywhere, but ONLY looks for specifics markers (in this case, viruses) If something it scans doesn't have that marker, it ignores it. Do we know that Origin scanning a drive actually means it sends a list of everything on your drive/folder back to EA or is it only looking for something specific?

Just because it scans something doesn't means it's sending EA a list of everything on your computer. I feel this paranoia is rapidly spiraling out of control. I mean, the issue seems to be that it scans at all, but you don't even know what it's looking for. If it's looking for it's own games (ToR, BF3, etc, etc,) then that's fine. If it looks for anything else, then it's a legal issue waiting to explode.

But at that point I think people would start filing lawsuits or something. The fact there's not been one peep about Origin actually copying anything sensitive seems to suggest that while it looks in places it shouldn't, it's not actually reading every little thing you have.

Yes, it would be nice to opt out of it, like Steam lets you. But unless it's actually doing REAL damage, just peeking at your harddrive isn't really an unforgiveable crime.

I'm not upset related what software is gathering. I'm upset that it's gathering anything at all without my permission.
It's my computer privacy we talk and no-one should break it without my permission. Even laws in my country say that be part of infornation gathering is volutary base and I have rights to say yes and no. To Game company do anything damaging with the information has no meaning to me, because I WOULD NEVER give the permission in first place. It's my decission what softwares are in my computer, not theirs. So, spyware softwares are big No to me.

Modifié par Lumikki, 19 novembre 2011 - 10:14 .

[Tup3x]

Lumikki wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Okay, so we know Origin scans folders and drives, do we know what it's looking for? A virus-check scans everywhere, but ONLY looks for specifics markers (in this case, viruses) If something it scans doesn't have that marker, it ignores it. Do we know that Origin scanning a drive actually means it sends a list of everything on your drive/folder back to EA or is it only looking for something specific?

Just because it scans something doesn't means it's sending EA a list of everything on your computer. I feel this paranoia is rapidly spiraling out of control. I mean, the issue seems to be that it scans at all, but you don't even know what it's looking for. If it's looking for it's own games (ToR, BF3, etc, etc,) then that's fine. If it looks for anything else, then it's a legal issue waiting to explode.

But at that point I think people would start filing lawsuits or something. The fact there's not been one peep about Origin actually copying anything sensitive seems to suggest that while it looks in places it shouldn't, it's not actually reading every little thing you have.

Yes, it would be nice to opt out of it, like Steam lets you. But unless it's actually doing REAL damage, just peeking at your harddrive isn't really an unforgiveable crime.

I'm not upset related what software is gathering. I'm upset that it's gathering anything at all without my permission.
It's my computer privacy we talk and no-one should break it without my permission. To Game company do anything damaging with the information has no meaning, because I WOULD NEVER give the permission in first place. It's my decission what softwares are in my computer, not theirs. I don't instal 3rd party spyware softwares in my computer.

Well... Technically when you clicked the "I agree" button in EULA you gave permission for them to gather information. Can't say that I enjoy using apps that send away information, though.

[Lumikki]

Tup3xi wrote...

Well... Technically when you clicked the "I agree" button in EULA you gave permission for them to gather information. Can't say that I enjoy using apps that send away information, though.

Yes, if I would click it, but I would NEVER click it.  It's even agaist of many countries LAWS to connected playing games and giving up computer privicy in same question. It's called not reasonable contract.

To make people to understand, lets use metaform. This would be same that if you buy TV from shop, you also have to make copy of you house key to shop. So that people in shop can come anytime they want into you house without your permission, because they are just courious about something. If you don't agree the contract, you can't get the TV at all. That's what not reasonable contract means.

Game company doesn't have rights to force us to give up our computer privacy, just because we want to play games. Laws are protecting customers and peoples rights.

Also softwares EULA is only rules how to use that softwares, it's contract between user and company who made the software. Company how ever can not extend softwares EULA beoynd the software it self. Our computer is owned by us same way we can own our home. It's private property and access to it is controlled by us.

I find this issue upseting, because companies are fighting agaist piracy, because copywrite ownership rights. This is about respecting other person's rights and property. So, why companies think we have to respect they rights, if they don't even respect our rights?

Modifié par Lumikki, 19 novembre 2011 - 11:03 .

[heinoMK2]

well, i'm not so hot about Origin either. i'm cosidering to wait a month or two with the purchase in hope that there might be a version without that spyware tool. if not, maybe wait until the game costs just a fraction of the original price before i'd cosider the negative side effects semi-acceptable for one or two playthroughs.

[Siegdrifa]

Tup3xi wrote...

Well... Technically when you clicked the "I agree" button in EULA you gave permission for them to gather information. Can't say that I enjoy using apps that send away information, though.

Some county in europe have laws to protect citizen against abusiv contract, and consequences for the company can be sever.
To click on "agree" doesn't enslave you in here.
EA will have a hard time to explain that mandatory privacy intusion + no other way to legaly enjoy a product that technicaly could be used without forced monitoring is for the sake of the customers.

[Tup3x]

The only grey are in Origin EULA regarding to data collection is this in my opinion: "as well as information about your Application usage (...including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage...". If that means other applications than those distributed via Origin or Origin client, then it's a bit borderline situation. Steam does exact same thing, though.

EA does also say that "EA would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it ever use spyware or install spyware on users’ machines."

Go figure...

[Darth_Trethon]

Tup3xi wrote...

The only grey are in Origin EULA regarding to data collection is this in my opinion: "as well as information about your Application usage (...including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage...". If that means other applications than those distributed via Origin or Origin client, then it's a bit borderline situation. Steam does exact same thing, though.

EA does also say that "EA would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it ever use spyware or install spyware on users’ machines."

Go figure...

http://www.escapistm...cal-Miss-Origin

By that I am pretty sure they automatically exclude their own spyware....with Origin they are trying to find out where you work, where your children go to school, what you have for breakfast, on what day of the week you do laundry....and to watch you sleep among many, many other things.....oh and they want you to pay them too.

If you haven't already now is the time to start looking at a 360 or PS3.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 19 novembre 2011 - 02:10 .

[charmingcharlie]

Lukertin wrote...
It solves the problem because privacy is a nonexistent issue for me on the 360, whereas on the PC it is a matter of great concern. How you fail to understand this is beyond me.

I didn't "fail" to understand that on a console it isn't so much of an issue because you cannot store personal documents on a console I even SAID THAT in my post.  So yes I clearly understood.

Using a console still leaves you open to your privacy being invaded so like I said you just exchange one big brother situation for another, but hey I guess it doesn't matter as long as you can play a game eh

[Darth_Trethon]

charmingcharlie wrote...

Lukertin wrote...
It solves the problem because privacy is a nonexistent issue for me on the 360, whereas on the PC it is a matter of great concern. How you fail to understand this is beyond me.

I didn't "fail" to understand that on a console it isn't so much of an issue because you cannot store personal documents on a console I even SAID THAT in my post.  So yes I clearly understood.

Using a console still leaves you open to your privacy being invaded so like I said you just exchange one big brother situation for another, but hey I guess it doesn't matter as long as you can play a game eh

I think it's more about where you cross the line....I don't care if they monitor my 360.....they can feel free to see what games and DLC I buy, how much I play a game, what I enjoy most in a game, how I go about fighting in a game and so on. My 360 is all about my games and that's ok to watch.....now when they want to start looking at things that are none of their bloody business to the point it could easily be said they are trying to spy on my personal life then that becomes a major issue.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 19 novembre 2011 - 02:26 .

[Hawkin-s]

There is gonna be a hard copy, so no harm... It's always an extra selling/marketing factor...

[Bostur]

Hawkin-s wrote...

There is gonna be a hard copy, so no harm... It's always an extra selling/marketing factor...

Even the hardcopy may require an Origin account. Online DRM is getting pretty common unfortunately.

[Tup3x]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Tup3xi wrote...

The only grey are in Origin EULA regarding to data collection is this in my opinion: "as well as information about your Application usage (...including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage...". If that means other applications than those distributed via Origin or Origin client, then it's a bit borderline situation. Steam does exact same thing, though.

EA does also say that "EA would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it ever use spyware or install spyware on users’ machines."

Go figure...

http://www.escapistm...cal-Miss-Origin

By that I am pretty sure they automatically exclude their own spyware....with Origin they are trying to find out where you work, where your children go to school, what you have for breakfast, on what day of the week you do laundry....and to watch you sleep among many, many other things.....oh and they want you to pay them too.

If you haven't already now is the time to start looking at a 360 or PS3.

Eehh... Do you honestly believe that Microsoft/Sony (or developers) doesn't collect ****loads of data? I don't believe that EA is trying to dig out your secrets or anything like that.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 19 novembre 2011 - 03:43 .

[Darth_Trethon]

Tup3xi wrote...

Eehh... Do you honestly believe that Microsoft/Sony (or developers) doesn't collect ****loads of data? I don't believe that EA is trying to dig out your secrets or anything like that.

They do but it's strictly game related data not personal life data that is outside the scope of their jobs and makes you wonder why they want it in the first place kind of data. I pointed this out in my reply after the post you quoted.

Whether they are trying to dig out your secrets or not is another discussion....they are making you allow them to dig your secrets if you want to play the game. How much they dig after that is up to them and have no limits to keep from going all the way.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 19 novembre 2011 - 03:50 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

Tup3xi wrote...

Lumikki wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Okay, so we know Origin scans folders and drives, do we know what it's looking for? A virus-check scans everywhere, but ONLY looks for specifics markers (in this case, viruses) If something it scans doesn't have that marker, it ignores it. Do we know that Origin scanning a drive actually means it sends a list of everything on your drive/folder back to EA or is it only looking for something specific?

Just because it scans something doesn't means it's sending EA a list of everything on your computer. I feel this paranoia is rapidly spiraling out of control. I mean, the issue seems to be that it scans at all, but you don't even know what it's looking for. If it's looking for it's own games (ToR, BF3, etc, etc,) then that's fine. If it looks for anything else, then it's a legal issue waiting to explode.

But at that point I think people would start filing lawsuits or something. The fact there's not been one peep about Origin actually copying anything sensitive seems to suggest that while it looks in places it shouldn't, it's not actually reading every little thing you have.

Yes, it would be nice to opt out of it, like Steam lets you. But unless it's actually doing REAL damage, just peeking at your harddrive isn't really an unforgiveable crime.

I'm not upset related what software is gathering. I'm upset that it's gathering anything at all without my permission.
It's my computer privacy we talk and no-one should break it without my permission. To Game company do anything damaging with the information has no meaning, because I WOULD NEVER give the permission in first place. It's my decission what softwares are in my computer, not theirs. I don't instal 3rd party spyware softwares in my computer.

Well... Technically when you clicked the "I agree" button in EULA you gave permission for them to gather information. Can't say that I enjoy using apps that send away information, though.

1) In some countries, that sort of clause in the EULA is illigitimate even if "I Agree" is clicked.
2) EA has no idea if the person who clicked "I Agree" and the person whose information is being mined are one and the same. 
3) There's no way for any company to know who actually clicked "I Agree".