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[TheCreeper]

So towards the end of MotA the duke begins ranting about how he was expecting the Tal-Vashoth to hand over the recipe for blackpowder, or maps, or Plans for.... A Dreadnought? A Dreadnought was basically an early battleship, that sounds really really advanced for Thedas (even for qunari). I know the terms are different for thedas so it's probably not actually that right? So, what is a Qunari dreadnought?

Modifié par TheCreeper, 12 octobre 2011 - 09:10 .

[caradoc2000]

It is a big honking warship.

[Reno_Tarshil]

Its the ship that crashed Isabela's ship. It appears to be their unique type of battleship for seawarfare.

[Heimdall]

Considering the Qunari are the only ones with cannons, I imagine a Qunari dreadnaught is just a wooden ship with lots of guns.

[TobiTobsen]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Considering the Qunari are the only ones with cannons, I imagine a Qunari dreadnaught is just a wooden ship with lots of guns.

This.

But if I look at those rafts that they call ships in Thedas, I don't think that the Qunari have to be that advanced. It won't take much to impress sailors from Thedas

[Reno_Tarshil]

Its very much possible that they have transport tropps for massing troops and then the Dreadnaughts which are armed and armored.

[whykikyouwhy]

A shame that there are no "breath underwater" spells in Thedas (that we know of!), otherwise an enterprising troupe could try to locate the wreckage of the Arishok's dreadnought, and elusive plans might not be needed.

[Lenimph]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

A shame that there are no "breath underwater" spells in Thedas (that we know of!), otherwise an enterprising troupe could try to locate the wreckage of the Arishok's dreadnought, and elusive plans might not be needed.

We can send a golem 

[Reno_Tarshil]

Golems dont like water, God doesn't anyone play pokemon!?

[whykikyouwhy]

Lenimph wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...

A shame that there are no "breath underwater" spells in Thedas (that we know of!), otherwise an enterprising troupe could try to locate the wreckage of the Arishok's dreadnought, and elusive plans might not be needed.

We can send a golem 

  If Orlais allies with Orzammar....

[Wulfram]

I do occasionally wish Bioware would use a word which isn't so specifically early 20th century. It's a bit distracting sometimes, in Mass Effect and Dragon Age.

[Reno_Tarshil]

Dreadnaught just sounds intimidating though.

[whykikyouwhy]

Wulfram wrote...

I do occasionally wish Bioware would use a word which isn't so specifically early 20th century. It's a bit distracting sometimes, in Mass Effect and Dragon Age.

It may sound early 20th, but it is older:

"battleship," lit. "fearing nothing," from dread + nought. Mentioned as the name of a ship in the Royal Navy c.1596

[Lenimph]

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

Golems dont like water, God doesn't anyone play pokemon!?

Pfft of course I played Pokemon, I was a self proclaimed master as a child... but as much as I dislike it the laws of Pokemon are not universal. 

[Reno_Tarshil]

Lenimph wrote...
Pfft of course I played Pokemon, I was a self proclaimed master as a child... but as much as I dislike it the laws of Pokemon are not universal. 

It should be...

[TobiTobsen]

Well... why don't we send a couple of force mages to part the water, Moses style?

[Reno_Tarshil]

Well then George Lucas would sue for use of the Force for anything other than bashing robots and moving x-wings.

And then, Everyone who doesn't believe in the bible will cry ou with stop inserting christianity into mah games Biowares!

Cats and Dogs living together, mass hysteria.

[hoorayforicecream]

Isn't "dreadnought" used in popular culture to indicate a kind of ship or vehicle that's huge in both size and destructive capability? I know there were dreadnoughts in many RTS games - Warcraft 2 had orcish dreadnoughts, Red Alert 2 and 3 had a soviet Dreadnought ship, it's in Warhammer 40k, and they mention dreadnoughts in Farscape and Babylon 5.

[Reno_Tarshil]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Isn't "dreadnought" used in popular culture to indicate a kind of ship or vehicle that's huge in both size and destructive capability? I know there were dreadnoughts in many RTS games - Warcraft 2 had orcish dreadnoughts, Red Alert 2 and 3 had a soviet Dreadnought ship, it's in Warhammer 40k, and they mention dreadnoughts in Farscape and Babylon 5.

To enforce your point, The Dreadnaught from Death Race

[Wulfram]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

It may sound early 20th, but it is older:

"battleship," lit. "fearing nothing," from dread + nought. Mentioned as the name of a ship in the Royal Navy c.1596

As the name of a type of ships, it is very specifically early 20th century.  It was frequently used for ships before that, since it's a pretty badass name, but it was the HMS Dreadnought launched in 1906 which was so revolutionary that it's names became used for a whole generation of battleships launched after her - with all previous battleships being referred to as "pre-dreadnoughts"

But it's really just personal prejudice on my part that makes me dislike Bioware's usage.  As hoorayforicecream notes, the term has been widely adopted in science fiction.

Modifié par Wulfram, 12 octobre 2011 - 10:27 .

[TEWR]

I doubt the Qunari dreadnought and the 20th century real-world type of dreadnought are the same thing. More than likely Bioware just took the name for an archaic type of ship the Qunari use that's advanced for the time period, but not so advanced that it just blows us into the modern era.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 12 octobre 2011 - 10:37 .

[Vlad_Dracul]

Quanari dreadnought must be BIG wooden, dangerous thing with a lot of cannons, something similar like this:


sweden battleship Vasa, early 1600s

Modifié par Vlad_Dracul, 12 octobre 2011 - 10:34 .

[Reno_Tarshil]

Only if they have a Dwarven Mermaid on the front of it.

[Xewaka]

hoorayforicecream wrote...
Isn't "dreadnought" used in popular culture to indicate a kind of ship or vehicle that's huge in both size and destructive capability? I know there were dreadnoughts in many RTS games - Warcraft 2 had orcish dreadnoughts, Red Alert 2 and 3 had a soviet Dreadnought ship, it's in Warhammer 40k, and they mention dreadnoughts in Farscape and Babylon 5.

The 40K dreadnoughts are fun.


See the thing with the eagle symbol in the middle? They've got a half-mutilated agonizing dude there. Saved from death to serve forever as the pilot of a walking tomb of death. So silly.

Modifié par Xewaka, 12 octobre 2011 - 10:45 .

[Wulfram]

Vlad_Dracul wrote...

Quanari dreadnought must be BIG wooden, dangerous thing with a lot of cannons, something similar like this:


sweden battleship Vasa, early 1600s

But hopefully capable of going more than 2km without sinking.