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[LeBurns]

There is a demo. Play it. If you love the demo buy the game. If you hate the demo don't buy the game. If you are still unsure after the demo, come back here and ask what concerns you.

[Kaiser Shepard]

sycophanticchallenger wrote...

Even at $15, this game is not worth it. Consider the time you will lose to this waste of a game. Your time should be worth more to you than the fact that it is "something you can play for only $15".

Go buy something good. Or hell, just re-play DAO.

Pretty much this, especially considering the fact that your gaming time is limited. There are much better games to spend one's time on.

Davillo wrote...

If you liked Devil May Cry, Darksiders, Onimusha, God of War, Prince of Persia you will like DA2, its not a hardcore RPG like Origins but its still and rpg to some extent and the action is well cool I could say, on the hardest difficulty it's somewhat hard and u have to use your combo moves to kill strong enemies.

If one wants to play a decent action/adventure with hack-'n-slack/beat-'m-up elements (or vice versa), one should play the games you just listed (or better yet, Bayonetta).

If one wants to play a decent RPG in which you actually make choices, stay with Origins or try your luck with the Witcher series or one of Obsidians titles depending on your exact gameplay desires. Deus Ex:Human Revolution probably should be on that list as well, but I have yet to play that game so I can't say for sure just yet (confirmation would be appreciated).

However, DA2 is far from - and I cannot stress this enough - FAR FROM a succesful mix of the two genres.

ThePasserby wrote...

What other games can you get for $15? If you can get other games for discounted prices as well, then DA2 loses its appeal.

Here's a questionaire:

1) Do you like seeing reused maps in dungeons, caves and indoor dwelings? Do you like to see close to no variation in every cave you enter?

2) Do you like to talk to your companions only when the game tells you to? Do you enjoy not having the ability to talk to them anytime you wish?

3) Do you like the feeling of not having any impact on the game world? Do you relish seeing the same outcome for just about any decision you make in the game?

If any of the above is a yes for you, then you should buy this game.

All good points. And let's not forget the fact that aside from the intro, the entire game takes place within just one city. Sure, they may get away with just one city and your own keep in the expansion Awakening, but this is a full game taking place within a single city.

Now, you'd probably think this would mean this city would wow you like, lets say the first time you saw Rivendell in Fellowship of the Ring, after all it's pretty much everything the dev team has been on for over a year, but nothing could be less true: 95% of the game will be spent in the open-air prison that is Kirkwall. The other 5%? Well, there's this ever unchanging piece of coast you'll visit about 5 to 10 times in the course of the game, as well as a mountain you'll have conquered in 15 minutes.

You will have seen every area, every piece of scenery, every single dungeon map that will reused for dozens of times to come within the first 5 hours of the game. There's no sense of exploration, no new areas or paths opening up in each arc of the game and not even a single choice that actually changes any aspect of the game.

As for the story, it is as linear, unchanging and barren as the rest of the game. Do not expect a villain of the same caliber of Loghain, or even Saren. Do not expect to participate in the intrigue of politics like you could at Orzammar, the Landsmeet and Vigil's Keep. Like I said, do not expect your "choices" to have any impact at all. And most of all, do not expect to have your character feel like more than just a secondary character, who's merely along for the ride.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 13 octobre 2011 - 08:00 .

[TRLahti]

Being OCD (and having played the game before) I bought it new yesterday for $29.99 (as well as Dragon Age :Origins Ultimate Edition for $29.99). I spent TWICE as much as you and it was still worth it! I love the game and it's definitely worth the $15 you can get it for.

The battle style is definitely better and much more face paced, and using menus and such is much simpler IMO. The map is much cleaner and easier to use, updated graphics, a large array of side quests, a captivitating story that strays somewhat from most RPG's, and a whole lot of others things.

People make it out to seem worse than it is because they're butthurt fanboys that were expecting a lot more and are way too judgmental about any video game they play. It's only $15!  

Get it!

Modifié par TRLahti, 13 octobre 2011 - 07:47 .

[DarkSun522]

Ukki wrote...

DarkSun522 wrote...

Ukki wrote...

For a low price? Yes, but forget the "DA" label, it is not a sequal for Origins. Just its own little game with lots of annoying flaws.

That's right. DA II isn't a 'sequal' (whatever that is! LOLOL), it's a superior sequel to Origins.

Oooh! A grammar Nazzi. And with such a witty comeback.


ps. Akka le Vil, you are correct. Not worth it.

Very witty indeed. I'm glad to have you shown you the error of your ways.

[DarkSun522]

ThePasserby wrote...

DarkSun522 wrote...

ThePasserby wrote...

What other games can you get for $15? If you can get other games for discounted prices as well, then DA2 loses its appeal.

Here's a questionaire:

1) Do you like seeing reused maps in dungeons, caves and indoor dwelings? Do you like to see close to no variation in every cave you enter?

2) Do you like to talk to your companions only when the game tells you to? Do you enjoy not having the ability to talk to them anytime you wish?

3) Do you like the feeling of not having any impact on the game world? Do you relish seeing the same outcome for just about any decision you make in the game?

If any of the above is a yes for you, then you should buy this game.

Better questions to ask yourself are:

1) Do you enjoy playing games with cool graphics?

2) Do you enjoying playing games with a great story?

3) Do you enjoying playing games with incredible combat?

4) Do you enjoying playing awesome games?

If you answered yes to any of the above, Dragon Age II might be for you.

Know the difference between facts and opinions? My first 2 points are facts. The 3rd point is an opinion that few would dispute.

All 4 of your points, on the other hand, are opinions, and highly debatable.

All the points I made are all true and not debatable.

[DarkSun522]

xkg wrote...

LMAO guys. If you haven't figured it out yet, DarkSun522 is Versago troll on another account.

LOLNOPE. Good try though.

[Feanor_II]

In my opinion it's not worth of buying, the game lacks of depth, it's very streamlined and it's development cycle has been rushed and it's overaccelerated combat (with enemy waves) pulls me to stress...... If you are looking for a game that evolves DA:O formula making it deeper and more complex this isn't your game.

[DarkDragon777]

Nope

[hawat333]

Depends. If you are looking for a worthy game in nowadays' market, it is worth getting.
If you are looking for a game worthy of the BioWare logo, not so much.
The game has some incredible strengths, but also, heavy downsides, which we are not familiar with in case of this company.
If you can get it for a bargain, by all means. But for your money you'll get a streamlined game without any real depth - of course that's due to rushed development, but still. If you are looking for a sequel for DA:O, you'll be sadly disappointed.

Anyways, if you decide to buy game, I recommend the plot-DLCs too. They are closer to the mentality of DA:O than DAII itself.

[sycophanticchallenger]

TRLahti wrote...

Being OCD (and having played the game before) I bought it new yesterday for $29.99 (as well as Dragon Age :Origins Ultimate Edition for $29.99). I spent TWICE as much as you and it was still worth it! I love the game and it's definitely worth the $15 you can get it for.

The battle style is definitely better and much more face paced, and using menus and such is much simpler IMO. The map is much cleaner and easier to use, updated graphics, a large array of side quests, a captivitating story that strays somewhat from most RPG's, and a whole lot of others things.

People make it out to seem worse than it is because they're butthurt fanboys that were expecting a lot more and are way too judgmental about any video game they play. It's only $15!  

Get it!

I have no idea what you mean by "face paced" battle style. If by face paced battle style you mean that you're an idiot, then I will agree.

Oh, and I ASSURE you, the butthurt on this forum and the internet at large are the vast majority over you short bus riding DA2 "fans". DA2 has been pretty much universally panned on the internet at large.

[Cobra's_back]

ThePasserby wrote...

What other games can you get for $15? If you can get other games for discounted prices as well, then DA2 loses its appeal.

Here's a questionaire:

1) Do you like seeing reused maps in dungeons, caves and indoor dwelings? Do you like to see close to no variation in every cave you enter?

2) Do you like to talk to your companions only when the game tells you to? Do you enjoy not having the ability to talk to them anytime you wish?

3) Do you like the feeling of not having any impact on the game world? Do you relish seeing the same outcome for just about any decision you make in the game?

If any of the above is a yes for you, then you should buy this game.

I agree. I played it, and I wouldn't be interested in another RPG like this one. The number 3 is a real killer. It makes the Elder Scrolls series a better choice for players that like their decisions to have an impact. If choice is not an issue then play it.

[DarkSun522]

sycophanticchallenger wrote...

TRLahti wrote...

Being OCD (and having played the game before) I bought it new yesterday for $29.99 (as well as Dragon Age :Origins Ultimate Edition for $29.99). I spent TWICE as much as you and it was still worth it! I love the game and it's definitely worth the $15 you can get it for.

The battle style is definitely better and much more face paced, and using menus and such is much simpler IMO. The map is much cleaner and easier to use, updated graphics, a large array of side quests, a captivitating story that strays somewhat from most RPG's, and a whole lot of others things.

People make it out to seem worse than it is because they're butthurt fanboys that were expecting a lot more and are way too judgmental about any video game they play. It's only $15!  

Get it!

I have no idea what you mean by "face paced" battle style. If by face paced battle style you mean that you're an idiot, then I will agree.

Oh, and I ASSURE you, the butthurt on this forum and the internet at large are the vast majority over you short bus riding DA2 "fans". DA2 has been pretty much universally panned on the internet at large.

Lookout everybody! There's yet another butt hurt troll on the forums! Grab your stakes and pitchforks!

[sycophanticchallenger]

DarkSun522 wrote...

sycophanticchallenger wrote...

TRLahti wrote...

Being OCD (and having played the game before) I bought it new yesterday for $29.99 (as well as Dragon Age :Origins Ultimate Edition for $29.99). I spent TWICE as much as you and it was still worth it! I love the game and it's definitely worth the $15 you can get it for.

The battle style is definitely better and much more face paced, and using menus and such is much simpler IMO. The map is much cleaner and easier to use, updated graphics, a large array of side quests, a captivitating story that strays somewhat from most RPG's, and a whole lot of others things.

People make it out to seem worse than it is because they're butthurt fanboys that were expecting a lot more and are way too judgmental about any video game they play. It's only $15!  

Get it!

I have no idea what you mean by "face paced" battle style. If by face paced battle style you mean that you're an idiot, then I will agree.

Oh, and I ASSURE you, the butthurt on this forum and the internet at large are the vast majority over you short bus riding DA2 "fans". DA2 has been pretty much universally panned on the internet at large.

Lookout everybody! There's yet another butt hurt troll on the forums! Grab your stakes and pitchforks!

Again... if you're looking to form a mob, you should side with the Majority. and again, I assure you, your viewpoint is not the viewpoint of the majority.

[DarkSun522]

sycophanticchallenger wrote...

DarkSun522 wrote...

sycophanticchallenger wrote...

TRLahti wrote...

Being OCD (and having played the game before) I bought it new yesterday for $29.99 (as well as Dragon Age :Origins Ultimate Edition for $29.99). I spent TWICE as much as you and it was still worth it! I love the game and it's definitely worth the $15 you can get it for.

The battle style is definitely better and much more face paced, and using menus and such is much simpler IMO. The map is much cleaner and easier to use, updated graphics, a large array of side quests, a captivitating story that strays somewhat from most RPG's, and a whole lot of others things.

People make it out to seem worse than it is because they're butthurt fanboys that were expecting a lot more and are way too judgmental about any video game they play. It's only $15!  

Get it!

I have no idea what you mean by "face paced" battle style. If by face paced battle style you mean that you're an idiot, then I will agree.

Oh, and I ASSURE you, the butthurt on this forum and the internet at large are the vast majority over you short bus riding DA2 "fans". DA2 has been pretty much universally panned on the internet at large.

Lookout everybody! There's yet another butt hurt troll on the forums! Grab your stakes and pitchforks!

Again... if you're looking to form a mob, you should side with the Majority. and again, I assure you, your viewpoint is not the viewpoint of the majority.

My viewpoint is that of the sane and intelligent people. If the majority are idiotic morons like you then I'll happily be apart of the minority:P

[sycophanticchallenger]

DarkSun522 wrote...

sycophanticchallenger wrote...

DarkSun522 wrote...

sycophanticchallenger wrote...

TRLahti wrote...

Being OCD (and having played the game before) I bought it new yesterday for $29.99 (as well as Dragon Age :Origins Ultimate Edition for $29.99). I spent TWICE as much as you and it was still worth it! I love the game and it's definitely worth the $15 you can get it for.

The battle style is definitely better and much more face paced, and using menus and such is much simpler IMO. The map is much cleaner and easier to use, updated graphics, a large array of side quests, a captivitating story that strays somewhat from most RPG's, and a whole lot of others things.

People make it out to seem worse than it is because they're butthurt fanboys that were expecting a lot more and are way too judgmental about any video game they play. It's only $15!  

Get it!

I have no idea what you mean by "face paced" battle style. If by face paced battle style you mean that you're an idiot, then I will agree.

Oh, and I ASSURE you, the butthurt on this forum and the internet at large are the vast majority over you short bus riding DA2 "fans". DA2 has been pretty much universally panned on the internet at large.

Lookout everybody! There's yet another butt hurt troll on the forums! Grab your stakes and pitchforks!

Again... if you're looking to form a mob, you should side with the Majority. and again, I assure you, your viewpoint is not the viewpoint of the majority.

My viewpoint is that of the sane and intelligent people. If the majority are idiotic morons like you then I'll happily be apart of the minority:P

Lol... If you're sane, then why are you wasting your time chasing me around threads on the forum trying to contradict me and spewing your rainbow colored bile all over the place? Not the actions of an intelligent or emotionally balanced individual.

[ScotGaymer]

I havent really read this thread cos I didnt wanna read all the "no dont buy it cos DA2 SUX!" posts. At this point I just wish the people who irrationally hate this game cant just go away already.

For myself after I got DA2 (I preordered the Signature Edition) I found myself highly dissapointed with it. I completed it in little over 2 days, got maybe 20 to 30 hours play out of it and did maybe 80% of the quests.
Got to the end and went "what? is that it? already?"

I know that sounds really negative but it is only because I like many people had extremely high expectations for this game based on how amazing DAO was and how much I loved ME2 (and how much I love Bioware games in general). It took me 10 days of almost constant playing to complete (100%!) ME2 (the last 12 hours play time I didnt put the game down because I thought I was on the "final run" of the game and before I knew it it was 8AM the next day lol); and it took me about 3 weeks of playing to complete DAO.
So when I completed DA2 in 2 days it was a bit of a shock, and when you couple that with the ending basically slapping me in the face and saying "haw haw your choices meant nothing!" it made for a very dissapointed customer.
I actually regretted paying the extra money for the Siggy Edition.

But as time passed and I began to get over my initial shock, I began to look at the game with a more reasonable perspective.
I asked myself, "If this game wasnt called Dragon Age or wasnt by Bioware would I have liked it?" and I found surprisingly that the answer was "yes I would".

Once I had gotten over my shock I realised that the game was actually decent game for the most part, it was largely my own expectations based off of Biowares appallingly bad and inaccurate marketing that lead my to dissapointment, not the game itself.
The only things about the game that really annoy me on their own merits are the crappy textures/graphics that come with the game and the recycled maps.

So my recommendation would be to get it eventually, perhaps hold off to see if some sort of Ultimate Edition of it comes out so you can get everything in one go.

The game is a decent game, the storyline isnt bad, the dialogue is at times utterly genius, and the gameplay is fairly balanced if a little thin on the supplying of details to the player.

If I reviewed it I would give it a 6.5 to 7.0 out of 10. A decent effort with plenty of room for improvement, certainly worth buying especially at the cheap price tag now.

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 13 octobre 2011 - 09:25 .

[sycophanticchallenger]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

I havent really read this thread cos I didnt wanna read all the "no dont buy it cos DA2 SUX!" posts. At this point I just wish the people who irrationally hate this game cant just go away already.

lol... This is coming from a fitscotGAYmer with an anime dude as his forum avatar. The only way to correct Bioware's mistakes in DA2 is to beat them in to submission. Period.

I think we know why it appeals to YOU.

*to clarify, I didn't really READ your post] (see, I can do it too)

Modifié par sycophanticchallenger, 13 octobre 2011 - 09:31 .

[Garden of Heaven]

In my opinion DAII had its flaws, but I think any fan of DAO should give it a try.

[DarkSun522]

sycophanticchallenger wrote...

DarkSun522 wrote...

sycophanticchallenger wrote...

DarkSun522 wrote...

sycophanticchallenger wrote...

TRLahti wrote...

Being OCD (and having played the game before) I bought it new yesterday for $29.99 (as well as Dragon Age :Origins Ultimate Edition for $29.99). I spent TWICE as much as you and it was still worth it! I love the game and it's definitely worth the $15 you can get it for.

The battle style is definitely better and much more face paced, and using menus and such is much simpler IMO. The map is much cleaner and easier to use, updated graphics, a large array of side quests, a captivitating story that strays somewhat from most RPG's, and a whole lot of others things.

People make it out to seem worse than it is because they're butthurt fanboys that were expecting a lot more and are way too judgmental about any video game they play. It's only $15!  

Get it!

I have no idea what you mean by "face paced" battle style. If by face paced battle style you mean that you're an idiot, then I will agree.

Oh, and I ASSURE you, the butthurt on this forum and the internet at large are the vast majority over you short bus riding DA2 "fans". DA2 has been pretty much universally panned on the internet at large.

Lookout everybody! There's yet another butt hurt troll on the forums! Grab your stakes and pitchforks!

Again... if you're looking to form a mob, you should side with the Majority. and again, I assure you, your viewpoint is not the viewpoint of the majority.

My viewpoint is that of the sane and intelligent people. If the majority are idiotic morons like you then I'll happily be apart of the minority:P

Lol... If you're sane, then why are you wasting your time chasing me around threads on the forum trying to contradict me and spewing your rainbow colored bile all over the place? Not the actions of an intelligent or emotionally balanced individual.

I'm spreading bile? HAHAHAHAHAHA! The pot is calling the kettle black.

[TRLahti]

sycophanticchallenger wrote...

TRLahti wrote...

Being OCD (and having played the game before) I bought it new yesterday for $29.99 (as well as Dragon Age :Origins Ultimate Edition for $29.99). I spent TWICE as much as you and it was still worth it! I love the game and it's definitely worth the $15 you can get it for.

The battle style is definitely better and much more face paced, and using menus and such is much simpler IMO. The map is much cleaner and easier to use, updated graphics, a large array of side quests, a captivitating story that strays somewhat from most RPG's, and a whole lot of others things.

People make it out to seem worse than it is because they're butthurt fanboys that were expecting a lot more and are way too judgmental about any video game they play. It's only $15!  

Get it!

I have no idea what you mean by "face paced" battle style. If by face paced battle style you mean that you're an idiot, then I will agree.

Oh, and I ASSURE you, the butthurt on this forum and the internet at large are the vast majority over you short bus riding DA2 "fans". DA2 has been pretty much universally panned on the internet at large.

lol you're mad

[Cobra's_back]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

I havent really read this thread cos I didnt wanna read all the "no dont buy it cos DA2 SUX!" posts. At this point I just wish the people who irrationally hate this game cant just go away already.

For myself after I got DA2 (I preordered the Signature Edition) I found myself highly dissapointed with it. I completed it in little over 2 days, got maybe 20 to 30 hours play out of it and did maybe 80% of the quests.
Got to the end and went "what? is that it? already?"

I know that sounds really negative but it is only because I like many people had extremely high expectations for this game based on how amazing DAO was and how much I loved ME2 (and how much I love Bioware games in general). It took me 10 days of almost constant playing to complete (100%!) ME2 (the last 12 hours play time I didnt put the game down because I thought I was on the "final run" of the game and before I knew it it was 8AM the next day lol); and it took me about 3 weeks of playing to complete DAO.
So when I completed DA2 in 2 days it was a bit of a shock, and when you couple that with the ending basically slapping me in the face and saying "haw haw your choices meant nothing!" it made for a very dissapointed customer.
I actually regretted paying the extra money for the Siggy Edition.

But as time passed and I began to get over my initial shock, I began to look at the game with a more reasonable perspective.
I asked myself, "If this game wasnt called Dragon Age or wasnt by Bioware would I have liked it?" and I found surprisingly that the answer was "yes I would".

Once I had gotten over my shock I realised that the game was actually decent game for the most part, it was largely my own expectations based off of Biowares appallingly bad and inaccurate marketing that lead my to dissapointment, not the game itself.
The only things about the game that really annoy me on their own merits are the crappy textures/graphics that come with the game and the recycled maps.

So my recommendation would be to get it eventually, perhaps hold off to see if some sort of Ultimate Edition of it comes out so you can get everything in one go.

The game is a decent game, the storyline isnt bad, the dialogue is at times utterly genius, and the gameplay is fairly balanced if a little thin on the supplying of details to the player.

If I reviewed it I would give it a 6.5 to 7.0 out of 10. A decent effort with plenty of room for improvement, certainly worth buying especially at the cheap price tag now.

Your comments seem good natured. I’m not sure that everyone hates the game. Some of the criticism actually helps Bio Ware. It is my understanding Bio Ware is addressing many of the concerns on this thread. DA3 promises to be epic.
I personally would not suggest DA2 to anyone wanting to make decisions that change the game’s actual outcome. I don’t hate the game. It is very linear and it was designed that way. The recommendation and criticism help a potential buyer make an educated decision to purchase this game.  
When I purchased this game, I also purchased their collector’s guide. Jennifer Hepler wrote “I really wanted to try doing a cursed Angel and Buffy style romance, which we hadn’t done at Bio Ware before.” Bio Ware deserves credit for trying something new. Personally, I rather watch a show with a tragedy and not play a tragedy. Now some people may like being part of a cursed romance. 

If the gamer doesn’t want to be railroaded through a fixed plot with little or no choices then they won’t enjoy the game.
Bio Ware will probably change this formula for DA3, and players will be allowed more meaningful decisions that determine certain outcomes.
It is best to be honest and I’m sure some not all players will still be interested because of the games other merits.

[Tommyspa]

Where are the mods in this thread?

[seraphymon]

DarkSun522 wrote...

xkg wrote...

LMAO guys. If you haven't figured it out yet, DarkSun522 is Versago troll on another account.

LOLNOPE. Good try though.

Based on all the posts, you made XKG is right you are versago. Switching  avatars and names  doesnt hide trolls.

[DarkSun522]

TRLahti wrote...

sycophanticchallenger wrote...

TRLahti wrote...

Being OCD (and having played the game before) I bought it new yesterday for $29.99 (as well as Dragon Age :Origins Ultimate Edition for $29.99). I spent TWICE as much as you and it was still worth it! I love the game and it's definitely worth the $15 you can get it for.

The battle style is definitely better and much more face paced, and using menus and such is much simpler IMO. The map is much cleaner and easier to use, updated graphics, a large array of side quests, a captivitating story that strays somewhat from most RPG's, and a whole lot of others things.

People make it out to seem worse than it is because they're butthurt fanboys that were expecting a lot more and are way too judgmental about any video game they play. It's only $15!  

Get it!

I have no idea what you mean by "face paced" battle style. If by face paced battle style you mean that you're an idiot, then I will agree.

Oh, and I ASSURE you, the butthurt on this forum and the internet at large are the vast majority over you short bus riding DA2 "fans". DA2 has been pretty much universally panned on the internet at large.

lol you're mad

Understatement of the decade.

[DarkSun522]

seraphymon wrote...

DarkSun522 wrote...

xkg wrote...

LMAO guys. If you haven't figured it out yet, DarkSun522 is Versago troll on another account.

LOLNOPE. Good try though.

Based on all the posts, you made XKG is right you are versago. Switching  avatars and names  doesnt hide trolls.

Oh dear! It would seem that my cover is blown! I just can't hide when I have cunning detectives like you around.