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[ScotGaymer]

It really isnt better than Origins.

It does some stuff better, for example I liked the faster combat animations better (though wasnt a fan of randomly exploding enemies and the awesome button). I also preferred Anders' in DA2, theres something really compelling and sexy about him.
I also like the newer Dwarves, and Qunari in DA2; they look more unique while still looking attractive/sexy; case in point Varric.
I love that the game engine itself runs more smoothly, and I like the new streamlined talent trees.
There are certain story elements that the game does better than DAO also.

On the whole Dragon Age Origins is the better game of the two, if only because DAO had the development cycle and time that the team needed to properly complete and polish the game. DA2 is clearly, blatantly unfinished and unpolished. Alas.

I am not saying that DA2 is a bad game, I rather enjoy it myself. And of course it is just my opinion here that I am airing.

Opinion does not equal fact Versago sorry to say. And what you have been saying about DA2 and DAO is OPINION, not fact.

[Complistic]

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Modifié par JohnEpler, 19 octobre 2011 - 06:55 .

[seraphymon]

Versago wrote...

Yeah, DA II really is better than Origins and most games. That's a fact.

Thats an Opinion. Just like IMO is DAO is better than DA2.

[Sugarjaye]

Alrighty I loved it, but I didn't pay for it. My sister very kindly bought it for me as i wanted it but couldn't afford it at the time, i think she paid about $90 for it. Which is the standard price for new non collector editions in Australia, I wish it was much cheaper, She the game had its faults but i still loved it, I loved being able to listento my FemHawke talk instead of watching a mute protag nod or make weird facial expressions(shudder).

[Zkyire]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

It really isnt better than Origins.

It does some stuff better, for example I liked the faster combat animations better (though wasnt a fan of randomly exploding enemies and the awesome button). I also preferred Anders' in DA2, theres something really compelling and sexy about him.
I also like the newer Dwarves, and Qunari in DA2; they look more unique while still looking attractive/sexy; case in point Varric.
I love that the game engine itself runs more smoothly, and I like the new streamlined talent trees.
There are certain story elements that the game does better than DAO also.

On the whole Dragon Age Origins is the better game of the two, if only because DAO had the development cycle and time that the team needed to properly complete and polish the game. DA2 is clearly, blatantly unfinished and unpolished. Alas.

I am not saying that DA2 is a bad game, I rather enjoy it myself. And of course it is just my opinion here that I am airing.

Opinion does not equal fact Versago sorry to say. And what you have been saying about DA2 and DAO is OPINION, not fact.

I feel that:


Combat Speed

DAO: Origins combat was a bit *too* slow (realistically, greatswords, as big as they are, still don't weigh that much and would be swung quicker than they were in DA:O, but to be fair to them they were probaby just lumping in greatswords, battle-axes and mauls into the one category in terms of speed to save time/resources).

DA2 combat speed though is a bit *too* quick.

So, for me, a middle-ground between the two would be great for DA3.


Enemy Deaths

DAO: I liked the way DAO handled killing enemies. Especially the every-now-and-then executions.

DA2: Exploding enemies was pretty cool during the prologue (because of Varric's exaggerations) but after that it felt a bit too much.

So for possible DA3, I would like an approach where you *can* cause the enemies to be sliced up, or explode, but only based on certain attacks, such as: Cleave - cutting the enemy into a couple of pieces (but not explode-y).


Race Changes

DAO:
Elves They looked like humans with pointy ears (as most elves in most stories do), but because of this, didn't feel very unique.
Qunari: Again, too human in appearance.

DA2:
Elves: I like that they tried to make the Elves more unique, in both their physical appearance AND their accents. But many of them ended up slightly deformed. Given how some of them looked pretty cool (Like Merril) it's probably not the fault of the imagined design change, but rather DA2 being rushed.
Qunari: I loved the change to the Qunari, definitely made them seem a little more unique and imposing, without making them seem like monsters.


DLC
DAO was a great game overall, but its DLC (while nice additions to the game) didn't *really* add too much in terms of enjoyment.

DA2 on the other hand started out as an average game, but its DLC has definitely made it a much more enjoyable to play.


Overall I agree with you with DAO being a little bit better of a game (due to having more development time).

DA2 is getting better with each passing DLC, I can only hope the trend continues.

I'd reccommend the game (assuming DLC are thrown in).

As for Versago.. I'm not sure if the guy is being sarcastic or not. His "DA2=AWESOME 100% FACT" seems a bit strange.

[Rocket_Man77]

DA II is, in my opinion, is worth getting. While the story isn't as good, as many have stated, the game is still a quality rpg. With an upgraded engine, the character graphics are better, frame-rate is better, and loading, and saving is faster than origins. I am not sure what else the game has in store, but I am sure the game will still sell well when an ultimate edition comes out. ( probably early next year, or mid year).

[Lellandra]

wowpwnslol wrote...

Replaying Origins >>> getting Dragon Age 2. Of course if you like consolized action games with little to no RPG value, your mileage may vary.

This!!

From your post, I believe your biggest factor is time. So let's take the reduced price out of the equation and see if it's worth it.

In my opinion, no. One of my biggest frustrations with the game was the end. It really soured the rest of the experience for me. After all the hours I had spent playing, in the end, I wished I had spent it with DA:O instead. Create another character, new race, new class, new romance. Get a different ending! So many options!

Modifié par Lellandra, 19 octobre 2011 - 06:01 .

[ScotGaymer]

Lellandra wrote...

wowpwnslol wrote...

Replaying Origins >>> getting Dragon Age 2. Of course if you like consolized action games with little to no RPG value, your mileage may vary.

This!!

From your post, I believe your biggest factor is time. So let's take the reduced price out of the equation and see if it's worth it.

In my opinion, no. One of my biggest frustrations with the game was the end. It really soured the rest of the experience for me. After all the hours I had spent playing, in the end, I wished I had spent it with DA:O instead. Create another character, new race, new class, new romance. Get a different ending! So many options!

I dont disagree with you here except maybe to say that perhaps a lot of your dissapointment came more from your own expectations rather than the game actually sucking.

The ending DOES kind of suck; in that it feels like it takes all choices and consequences out of the game and slaps the player with a generic ending that makes no difference to anything and sets up Hawke to be a scapegoat.
It was supposed to be a sequel hook because all indications out of BW was that DA3 was going to have Hawke as the protagonist again; they changed their mind after DA2 was released and a lot of people thought Hawke was a lame character.

I reckon however that a lot of that dissapointment comes from the fact that it is called Dragon Age 2; it was marketed as a sequel. And thats what people expected, a proper sequel. And what we got instead was a spin off.

Dont get me wrong, as evidenced by my earlier posts in this thread, I like DA2. But I cant help but feel that had the game been called Dragon Age: Rise To Power and been marketed as a seperate game in the universe, then BW wouldnt have recieved as much flak as they did of the games percieved shortcomings.

[rft]

This is the worst place to ask for a recomendation due to the amount of hardcore RPGers mad about DA2. DA2 is definantly worth $15. I got a good 40 hours out of my playthourgh (doing every side quest though). DA2 is not as good as DA:O but it definantly worth the $15 your paying for it.

Modifié par rft, 19 octobre 2011 - 07:39 .

[DarkSun522]

How hard is it to understand that DA II is a sequel to Origins? Maybe people don't see the '2' in Roman numerals in the title.

[thats1evildude]

DarkSun522 wrote...

How hard is it to understand that DA II is a sequel to Origins? Maybe people don't see the '2' in Roman numerals in the title.

It has less to do with the name and more to do with the fact that DA2 is a Contested Sequel.

[eroeru]

@thats1evildude

You've hit the mark with that one.

[DarkSun522]

thats1evildude wrote...

DarkSun522 wrote...

How hard is it to understand that DA II is a sequel to Origins? Maybe people don't see the '2' in Roman numerals in the title.

It has less to do with the name and more to do with the fact that DA2 is a Contested Sequel.

A sequel is a sequel, even if some people don't like it. The devs have clearly stated that DA II is a sequel to Origins.

END OF LINE.

[thats1evildude]

DarkSun522 wrote...

A sequel is a sequel, even if some people don't like it. The devs have clearly stated that DA II is a sequel to Origins.

You are correct, of course. But fanon is a funny beast, and some people will always insist DA2 is not a sequel to Origins because of the radical changes made from the first game.

I don't agree with them, I'm merely summing up their position.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 19 octobre 2011 - 08:48 .

[Persona]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Let's cut out the name-calling and insults, please. We can disagree with each other without being childish about it. And Tommyspa, if you want a Moderator to investigate a thread, you should send them a private message and link them to the potential trouble.

lets not and mods play favorites here just like in any forums.

[Heather Cline]

DA2 is a good stand alone game. As for a sequel to DA:O it is not. I liked it for what it was. If you can get past that it isn't a real successor to DA:O then you may enjoy it and would be worth picking up.

[eroeru]

DarkSun522 wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

DarkSun522 wrote...

How hard is it to understand that DA II is a sequel to Origins? Maybe people don't see the '2' in Roman numerals in the title.

It has less to do with the name and more to do with the fact that DA2 is a Contested Sequel.

A sequel is a sequel, even if some people don't like it. The devs have clearly stated that DA II is a sequel to Origins.

END OF LINE.

You like to oversimplify, don't you (at least when it fits your goal).

A Contested Sequel is of course a sequel, but at the same time it differentiates with other types of sequels. One can easily claim that it is less of a sequel in some qualitative way. I do and I have good reason behind it. Not going to waste my time on you though, you're not listening to anyone, just bashing around with your high and mighty knowledge, aren't you?

[Necromancer91]

for $15 its a steal, dragon age: origins was a some what better but DA2 is still a pretty damn good game.

[seraphymon]

DarkSun522 wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

DarkSun522 wrote...

How hard is it to understand that DA II is a sequel to Origins? Maybe people don't see the '2' in Roman numerals in the title.

It has less to do with the name and more to do with the fact that DA2 is a Contested Sequel.

A sequel is a sequel, even if some people don't like it. The devs have clearly stated that DA II is a sequel to Origins.

END OF LINE.

its not really a sequel though either. Just cause something has a 2 or a 3 doesnt mean its a sequel. Its like final fantasy almost. It doesnt progress any story. Bad thing is its not really even a completed game to stand on its own really. The number 2 was stacked on soley for marketing purposes and is not really a sequel. Also stop trying to hide behind another avatar every other day. Everyone knows your the troll "versago"

Modifié par seraphymon, 20 octobre 2011 - 12:40 .

[Zkyire]

Now BSN is arguing over whether or not DA2 is a sequel.

Yeah this is just childish.

[addiction21]

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

Now BSN is arguing over whether or not DA2 is a sequel.

Yeah this is just childish.

Now? This argument has been going on before it was released.