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Bioware and Taco Bell. (Yes, this is actually a serious thread)


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Everwarden

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Hello children. Today I'd like you to put on your imagination hats. Have your imagination hat on? Good. (Slow children are allowed to skip to the end paragraph)

Now, imagine a nice, shiny Taco Bell. You enjoy coming to Taco Bell often to partake in much delicious taco goodness. Today you're planning to buy two supreme tacos and a double-decker with the delicious fake cheese slathered on. You enter the Taco Bell and approach the counter, trying to ignore the sticky mass of.. something.. that you step in on the way to the counter. 

A dead-eyed, borderline psychotic looking Taco Bell employee grunts at you from behind the counter, indicating that you are to order now. You order your usual, and in a mere two minutes the award winning Taco Bell staff prepares you a fine meal. You take your lunch to a nearby table and pause for a moment to inhale the fumes of delicious taco aroma that waft out of the bag.

You open the bag, and to your horror there are no tacos in the bag at all! No burritos, no gorditas, not even an enchirito! Instead, there is a mass of tortillas forced rather awkwardly into the shape of a hamburger bun, topped with a slab of taco meat shaped roughly like a hamburger patty and two gallons of fire sauce. 

Confused, you stroll back over to the register and point out to the dead-eyed potential serial killer who takes orders that this isn't even remotely close to what you wanted. The dead-eyed employee stares back, confused, and fetches the manager.

The manager approaches, nose in the air. 
"Is there a problem with your order, sir/madam?" Asks the manager in a tone that suggests that he would much rather be off watching Two and a Half Men reruns in his 'back office' (an out-of-order bathroom stall) than dealing with an unreasonable customer.

"Er.. yes, just a small one." You timidly reply. "You see, I ordered tacos."
"Yes? And?" Says the manager, motioning to the taco-burger hybrid monstrosity on the counter.
"Well, that's not a taco." You say. "And it has two gallons of fire sauce on it. I mean, I like fire sauce, but too much is too much."
"Fire sauce is -AWESOME-! So more of it equals -MORE- awesome!" The manager exclaims, then continues, "We're trying to broaden our appeal by making a meal that both burger -and- taco lovers can enjoy." The manager grumbles. "That bastard Ronald McDonald boasts trillions and trillions of burgers served, we want in on that burger action!" 
"But you're.. Taco Bell." You reply in a confused voice. "You sell tacos." 
"You just hate change." The manager says, crossing his arms and huffing angrily. "If tacos are going to survive as a fast food, we need to evolve out of this narrow-minded anti-burger mentality. Making pure tacos these days is just a recipe to go bankrupt. Do you know what it costs to make a taco these days?!"
"But.." You reply, brain aching. "..McDonald's isn't the -only- burger chain. It's just the largest. Burger places are a dime-a-dozen, and the competition is steep. Why not stick to what you do well?"
The manager continues to stare blankly. 

There is a long pause. After a moment of reflection, you facepalm. 
"Can I just get a refund, please?" You ask in an exhausted tone.
"No." Says the manager. "But I'll be sure to send the higher-ups your feedback and let them know you don't approve of the changes."


TL;DR version: Bioware changing from what they do best to get the Call of Duty fanbase is a bit like Taco Bell making bad tacoburgers to get the McDonald's fanbase. Taco Bell does fine making tacos, and if they want to make a taco burger they should take their time and make a good one. Or else they risk losing their taco-loving fanbase. 

Modifié par Everwarden, 13 octobre 2011 - 01:06 .


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It appears a little strange to me that you wrote a post with children as target audience when the forum you posted into is mostly filled with adults.

Besides , IMO, to say it with your words, Bioware wanted to sell tacos also to burger fans and not change their tacos into burgers, they wanted to say to the burger croud, "Hey, try this taco, it tastes AWESOME, come on, you never tried.", and wanted the burger croud to answer "OMG, this is so good, why have I never tried before??!". Problem was that it didn't happen the way they wanted.

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I'm not sure if you're serious? I hope not..

I agree with what andraip wrote and I'll take it one step further. BioWare wanted their tacos to appeal to the burger crowd too because they share some key ingredients and said, "look our tacos have tomatos and lettuce in them just like your burgers, so maybe you would like our tacos if you just tried them."

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Interesting analogy. I'm not fond of Taco Bell. I don't think they make good tacos. yet I thoroughly enjoyed DA:O and DA2. Neither game made me feel bloated nor filled me with grease.

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Ummm...

The biggest flaw I see in your Logic is where you state: "Taco Bell does fine making tacos"

I guess they do OK making whatever it is they're making...but they aren't tacos...just "taco shaped"

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Deathwurm wrote...

Ummm...

The biggest flaw I see in your Logic is where you state: "Taco Bell does fine making tacos"

I guess they do OK making whatever it is they're making...but they aren't tacos...just "taco shaped"


Well, that was meant to be humorous. I didn't paint a very positive image of Taco Bell in this little thought experiment. The point of the analogy was that the idea of a company that has cornered the market in a niche taste (fast food tacos/RPGs) trying to oust the big dogs at what they do well (burgers/action games) is a silly one. Which might be why they failed miserably.

Oh, and then they blamed the customer for 'not liking change'. That's the part that I find most hilariously bad. 

Modifié par Everwarden, 13 octobre 2011 - 01:18 .


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Mr Everwarden, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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Was fun to read :P .

And... I somehow agree. I like BioWare for their RPG's. Sure both Mass Effect games were good and I enjoyed them but that doesn't change the fact that I always knew BW for their superb RPG's.

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Tacoburger. I think I ate that once. It wasn't that bad. And your analogy is weak because you're comparing fast food to fast food.

Modifié par naledgeborn, 13 octobre 2011 - 01:29 .


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Well, at least he dressed the same tired old rant up in a seedy new bun.

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naledgeborn

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"You want analogies? I got analogies!"
/Dwarven Merchant

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Now I'm hungry for some Taco Bell....

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PinkShoes

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I think what bioware did was forget every cheesey kids movie they have ever seen where the moral is "dont change yourself so others like you, just improve the person you are"

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Well, I enjoyed the analogy, brought tears to the eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!Image IPB


Not sure of Taco Bell making good tacos, I think they put mystery meat
in the their tacos every day!! Kind of the like the Hanged Man!!!Image IPB

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This is the first thread I've ever read that actually made me hungry....

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Everwarden wrote...

Hello children. Today I'd like you to put on your imagination hats. Have your imagination hat on? Good. (Slow children are allowed to skip to the end paragraph)

Now, imagine a nice, shiny Taco Bell. You enjoy coming to Taco Bell often to partake in much delicious taco goodness. Today you're planning to buy two supreme tacos and a double-decker with the delicious fake cheese slathered on. You enter the Taco Bell and approach the counter, trying to ignore the sticky mass of.. something.. that you step in on the way to the counter. 

A dead-eyed, borderline psychotic looking Taco Bell employee grunts at you from behind the counter, indicating that you are to order now. You order your usual, and in a mere two minutes the award winning Taco Bell staff prepares you a fine meal. You take your lunch to a nearby table and pause for a moment to inhale the fumes of delicious taco aroma that waft out of the bag.

You open the bag, and to your horror there are no tacos in the bag at all! No burritos, no gorditas, not even an enchirito! Instead, there is a mass of tortillas forced rather awkwardly into the shape of a hamburger bun, topped with a slab of taco meat shaped roughly like a hamburger patty and two gallons of fire sauce. 

Confused, you stroll back over to the register and point out to the dead-eyed potential serial killer who takes orders that this isn't even remotely close to what you wanted. The dead-eyed employee stares back, confused, and fetches the manager.

The manager approaches, nose in the air. 
"Is there a problem with your order, sir/madam?" Asks the manager in a tone that suggests that he would much rather be off watching Two and a Half Men reruns in his 'back office' (an out-of-order bathroom stall) than dealing with an unreasonable customer.

"Er.. yes, just a small one." You timidly reply. "You see, I ordered tacos."
"Yes? And?" Says the manager, motioning to the taco-burger hybrid monstrosity on the counter.
"Well, that's not a taco." You say. "And it has two gallons of fire sauce on it. I mean, I like fire sauce, but too much is too much."
"Fire sauce is -AWESOME-! So more of it equals -MORE- awesome!" The manager exclaims, then continues, "We're trying to broaden our appeal by making a meal that both burger -and- taco lovers can enjoy." The manager grumbles. "That bastard Ronald McDonald boasts trillions and trillions of burgers served, we want in on that burger action!" 
"But you're.. Taco Bell." You reply in a confused voice. "You sell tacos." 
"You just hate change." The manager says, crossing his arms and huffing angrily. "If tacos are going to survive as a fast food, we need to evolve out of this narrow-minded anti-burger mentality. Making pure tacos these days is just a recipe to go bankrupt. Do you know what it costs to make a taco these days?!"
"But.." You reply, brain aching. "..McDonald's isn't the -only- burger chain. It's just the largest. Burger places are a dime-a-dozen, and the competition is steep. Why not stick to what you do well?"
The manager continues to stare blankly. 

There is a long pause. After a moment of reflection, you facepalm. 
"Can I just get a refund, please?" You ask in an exhausted tone.
"No." Says the manager. "But I'll be sure to send the higher-ups your feedback and let them know you don't approve of the changes."

That was Beautiful.

And frighteningly accurate as an analogy.

Edit:  I guess I should contribute something, beyond mere approval.    Don't forget part two, where the CEO of Taco Bell promises  that the franchise will try, in the future,  to create  a  Taco that marries the best features of Both the classic taco, and the Taco-burger.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 13 octobre 2011 - 01:55 .


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Everwarden wrote...

Hello children. Today I'd like you to put on your imagination hats. Have your imagination hat on? Good. (Slow children are allowed to skip to the end paragraph)


Nice entry.

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andraip wrote...

It appears a little strange to me that you wrote a post with children as target audience when the forum you posted into is mostly filled with adults.
.


Wait what? :blink:
Really?  :mellow:
Would never have guessed... :o

Modifié par Savber100, 13 octobre 2011 - 01:53 .


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When you bite a burrito, something awesome has to happen.  Burrito-Awesome. lol

Modifié par Yrkoon, 13 octobre 2011 - 01:55 .


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Yrkoon wrote...

When you bite a burrito, something awesome has to happen.  Burrito-Awesome. lol


Oh, that's gold. Taco Bell should make that their new slogan. And the something awesome is naturally a noisy trip to the bathroom. 

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I'm at the Pizza Hut. I'm at the Taco Bell. I'm at the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell.

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Many burger lovers DID try the taco, and they liked it.

What's more, they wanted another taco.

They did NOT want a taco burger.

When they were served the taco burger they complained.

So did the original taco lovers.

The burger lovers who never wanted a taco in the first place don't want a taco burger either.

Go figure ...

Best thing I've read here next to "Dragon Strange" and a very apt analogy.

Thank you Everwarden.

P.S. You don't REALLY eat at Taco Bell do you?

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chart4ever wrote...

Was fun to read :P .

And... I somehow agree. I like BioWare for their RPG's. Sure both Mass Effect games were good and I enjoyed them but that doesn't change the fact that I always knew BW for their superb RPG's.


^This^

Plus I might mention, OP, that mid swing here in your analogy TB forgot their slogan which was their staple opting for using yrkoon's "Awesome Burrito" instead of what was working "Think Outside the Bun":P

Edit: reminds me of the old cola wars that some of you may be too young to remember.  The old days of New Coke and classic Coke?:o

Modifié par RagingCyclone, 13 octobre 2011 - 02:10 .


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Um, Taco Bell doesn't give out a bonus for pre-ordering your meal early. Or a free meal just because you bought a particular meal.

Nor does Taco Bell's online presence give you a 25% discount on your order for your birthday (which is what Origin did for me).

Nor can you express your feeling of betrayal and engage in debate with the chefs on the Taco Bell forums.

The one thing that Taco Bell does that BioWare doesn't is the combo meal. With Taco Bell, you get the entire meal right away. If you want a combo meal from BioWare, you may have to wait a year or more. There still isn't a combo meal equivalent for ME2.

EDIT: Oh wait - buy a $20 gift card from Taco Bell and you get a free meal!  Son of a gun, I guess you are right after all.

Modifié par jds1bio, 13 octobre 2011 - 02:18 .


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KilrB wrote...
Best thing I've read here next to "Dragon Strange" and a very apt analogy.


Huh, I'll have to look that up. Thanks for the kind words! :)

P.S. You don't REALLY eat at Taco Bell do you?


Not often, no.  

Modifié par Everwarden, 13 octobre 2011 - 02:27 .