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[Hathur]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

For some reason my PC won't let me quote you Hathur.but I'm the same, I don't buy any games unless I'm about 90% sure I'll like it.

I just thought back and the last game I didn't finish was Dawn of War 2 because about two-thirds through the campaign I started getting problems with Games For Windows Live and my account got all wonky. Can't log in anymore with my user without crashing shortly after, so I gave up on the game.

But even then I only quit because of a game breaking bug.. not because of the game itself. I definitely would have loved to play it to the end (the campaign was fun).

Anyone here willing to admit they don't finish most of their games and why? I'm quite curious. 

Modifié par Hathur, 14 octobre 2011 - 07:09 .

[onelifecrisis]

When you consider how diabolically bad the story of the average hardcore SP game is, it's not that surprising. Once the game mechanics and AI have lost their novelty, which doesn't take that long, the only reason to keep playing the SP campaign is for the story (or because you're a completionist).

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 14 octobre 2011 - 07:11 .

[onelifecrisis]

Hathur wrote...

Anyone here willing to admit they don't finish most of their games and why? I'm quite curious. 

I suspect that BSN is full of people who finish their games.

[whywhywhywhy]

Il Divo wrote...
I have never denied that some games' learning curves can be steeper than others. I am arguing that, if anything, the RPG or rather, the in-depth RPG, presents more difficulty on this front with respect to its rules system, since that is more time necessarily to explain the rules.

Yes you have the very thing your describing right here is a learning curve.  And your wrong, that's not what keeps casuals from playing, gameplay does. 

If the gameplay isn't something that along with the storyline draws them in they won't be interested.  Not to mention most systems have a auto level up aspect and for the more advance a manual one.  Your just completely wrong and tried to appear to disagree while in a round about way your saying the same thing, it ain't cute.

Il Divo wrote... ..... it's critical that your player has access to the most critical information at the start of the adventure.

Completely wrong.  If your looking for an optimal build sure that could be true, but otherwise it's all on a learning curve. 

Il Divo wrote...
Even just compare the difficult in learning the rule system for Mass Effect or Jade Empire vs. BG and you'll see my point.

First we have to get you to admit your talking about a learning curve.  We can't recklessly go dragging in other worthless points when your pretending to be talking about something else.  "Learning the rule system" lol, you crack me up.

Il Divo wrote...Every casual has preferences, this is true. But what's easier to jump into? Halo or Baldur's Gate?

That depends on the background, likes and dislikes of the casual gamer.  It's not set in stone.  I thought you got that when you agreed that all casuals have their preferences, we don't know what that is.

Il Divo wrote...
In the case of BG, the game doesn't really lay out any of the most critical rules, outside of attributes. When do attributes max out? How many spells do I receive per level? What does THACO represent? From what I recall, most of these were questions not available in the game itself. Some of these questions are critical to the basis of the game and are even less intuitive than figuring out what button performs what function.

You must hang around really dumb gamers. They won't know what button does what ?  Did they try pressing it ?  If it's that hard maybe they shouldn't play games, madden might confuse them too if they're at that level.  

And refer to the manual.  That's what a 5/10min read ?  Granted most games don't require this, manuals were common and standard before the industry gutted them from games as a price cutting measure in game development.   

Il Divo wrote...
The casual gamer.

That's a inaccurate blanket statement.  While I'm not denying some people may not care for manuals.  That isn't what dictated the removal of manuals.  The industry gutted manuals to save money, it had nothing to do with gamer preference.  As a matter of fact most complained 

Il Divo wrote...
I'm not arguing why the industry did or did not ditch manuals, but consider BG as an example where some more than critical rules were contained only in the manual. Casuals have less time and (by extension) less effort with which to expend on learning the rule-base of any given game. As a hardcore gamer, I might sit down and tear through the manual. A casual has less of an opportunity to do so.

Casuals didn't really exist in a great number before gaming went mainstream.  And I'd venture to say that today's casual gamer isn't the same as yesterdays casual gamer, though today both would fit the label.  As Gatt posted earlier, every genre had it's set amount of fans and word of mouth got those normally outside the genre to try it.

Il Divo wrote...
As your learning curve example admits, some games are more "jump in and play" than others. It is this distinction which more easily allows players to engage in some medium than others. If a game has a steeper learning curve, it's going to be less enjoyable if I don't have either the time/effort to put in and "figure it out".

I didn't say steeper as in to imply difficulty.  I said steeper to imply a longer period of play before the player gets acclimated.  This was/is balanced out by the fact that RPG's typically provide much longer gameplay experience then other genre's.

You seem to think that shorter longer curves = fun.  I disagree completely.  Your trying to argue player preference something that can't be done.  Even if you based your opinion off of current gamer buying trends by targeting popular games or genres.  FPS's for instance.  Pick any popular shooter and all of them share this truth multiplayer is part of the core experience.  As such the learning curve for a game like this is no different then a rpg for first time players.  Success is not something immediate you take your knocks and learn the game and develop the (twitch) reflexes needed for success.   On the RPG side you wander around propelled mostly by the story, you have a few moves available as you develop more.  Eventually the gamer will realize something that they missed along the way that causes them to understand the game better. 

To a beginner both games have layers of difficulty.  To the rest it's all about their gaming history, we don't decide that for them.

And on that note I'm done.  You've disagreed with something obvious, something your entire argument is based on but then go on to admit that it's the basis of your argument.  That's a good indicator that I'm wasting my time.  Thanks for the memories.

Modifié par whywhywhywhy, 14 octobre 2011 - 07:13 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

The Interloper wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

1.IMO, there are certain game design priorities that just cannot be made compatible... you have to sacrifice one to focus on the other.  IMO, a story/RP-based TPS, focused on character and story, isn't really compatible with an MP-based TPS, at a fundamental level.  I give Bioware credit for, as far as we know, largely firewalling the SP and MP portions of ME3, although even the "galactic readiness" leakage is too much as far as I'm concerned. 

2.I'm as much opposed to certain parts of ME3 for the trends they represent and continue, as I am opposed to them as we're hearing they exist in ME3 itself. 

3. It's as if more and more, everything has to be everything to anyone. 

1. As you say, story based and MP based are not compatible. But from what we've seen and as you seem to admit, ME3 seems to be remaining SP based from all we've seen, like Assassins creed or bioshock or uncharted. And I still don't understand the fuss about galactic readiness.

2. Trends are a different matter. The most important thing for me good finish to the series. If BW stops making good rpgs from here on there's always Bethesda, and I like shooters anyway. At any rate, BW has shown they can reverse trends they started, like RPG streamlining or wave based combat (DA2) so this is hardly set in stone. Besides, unless I'm mistaken weren't you saying earlier that if they no longer have anything that appeals to you you'd just leave and not be broken up over the fate of the brand?

3. Which ME3 isn't doing. The crowds it is trying to bring in fit closely to the crowds it already appeals to, so to me this move makes some sense. It makes sense to not do it, but it also makes sense to do it.

1. The leakage of "galactic readiness" from MP into SP appears intended to integrate the two and encourage the use of MP.  It bugs me, as simple as that.  I'd greatly perfer a bright, thick line between the two. 

2.  I'd not be happy, as I like DA and ME so far.  But I'd walk away before buying and playing games that I wouldn't like.  I'm not co-dependent. 

3.  I'm not sure that the "umadbro" crowd is compatible with the dedicated RPG crowd. 

[Merci357]

onelifecrisis wrote...

Hathur wrote...

Anyone here willing to admit they don't finish most of their games and why? I'm quite curious. 

I suspect that BSN is full of people who finish their games.

Honestly, I buy like 6-8 games (full price at release) per year, that's it. And most of them are these days sequels, anyway, so I'm quite sure I'd like it. So I finish them - most of them more then once.

On the other hand I have plenty of games I never played, but got dirt cheap on a Steam sale. Like I got the complete Paradox portfolio some weeks ago - I've played not one game of those.

*Edit* Oh, I remember one game I didn't finish - GTA4. I can't stand playing that king of protagonist, but at least it was a Steam sale as well.

Modifié par Merci357, 14 octobre 2011 - 07:26 .

[Hathur]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Dangit, Still can't quote. I'm a completionist myself...but I can't recall, offhand, a game that I merely finished because I felt obligated too...

There's one game that I HAVEn't finished, however, because of this. Red Dead Redemption. Once the wonder of the world fell away, I found it incredibly boring. I actually do want to finish it, mostly because of what you said about being a completionist. So I may join those ranks.

And actually, the other game I haven't finished is Oblivion, but that's because I have it on Xbox and I'm trying to find it on PC.

Regarding the feeling obligated to finish or having the wonder of the world slip away comment you made...

I have this sometimes happen to me too. Fallout New Vegas was a good example. I played about 40 hours and was having great fun... but by then I reached the highest level, maxed my skills and had the best weapons and armor. Even on the hardest difficulty I was smushing everything before me.

I still had perhaps 40% of the world to explore (referring to those hidden waypoints with interesting little locations).. but I was just kinda done with it all.. Nothing was a challenge and I felt I saw everything there was to see in terms of exploration.

So I basically just went straight to the main story quests and polished those off in a couple more hours and finished the story. Was really happy with that. Sure, I could have played another 15-20 hours if I wanted to find / do everything in the game, but the setting just began to lose it's charm for me.

However, I at least finished the game though and was glad for it. Oddly, this never happened in Fallout 3. I explored every nano meter of that that game and didn't get worn out by it. Strage, that. 

[onelifecrisis]

Merci357 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Hathur wrote...

Anyone here willing to admit they don't finish most of their games and why? I'm quite curious. 

I suspect that BSN is full of people who finish their games.

Honestly, I buy like 6-8 games (full price at release) per year, that's it. And most of them are these days sequels, anyway, so I'm quite sure I'd like it. So I finish them - most of them more then once.

On the other hand I have plenty of games I never played, but got dirt cheap on a Steam sale. Like I got the complete Paradox portfolio some weeks ago - I've played not one game of those.

I also buy about 6 games per year, and usually complete them (the exception is when they really suck). But that's now. Back in the good old days when I was young and had friends and a life and Things To Do, a lot of my games didn't get played to the end.

[Fugiz]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Dangit, Still can't quote. I'm a completionist myself...but I can't recall, offhand, a game that I merely finished because I felt obligated too...

There's one game that I HAVEn't finished, however, because of this. Red Dead Redemption. Once the wonder of the world fell away, I found it incredibly boring. I actually do want to finish it, mostly because of what you said about being a completionist. So I may join those ranks.

And actually, the other game I haven't finished is Oblivion, but that's because I have it on Xbox and I'm trying to find it on PC.

Oblivion and Fallout 3, bought them never finished them and so I sold them. Bored me they did.

[The Interloper]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

1. The leakage of "galactic readiness" from MP into SP appears intended to integrate the two and encourage the use of MP.  It bugs me, as simple as that.  I'd greatly perfer a bright, thick line between the two. 

2.  I'd not be happy, as I like DA and ME so far.  But I'd walk away before buying and playing games that I wouldn't like.  I'm not co-dependent. 

3.  I'm not sure that the "umadbro" crowd is compatible with the dedicated RPG crowd. 

1. It actually discourages use for me. I want to play the whole thing without cheating. But since you don't have to use it (I think you might even be able to play co-op but choose an option so you dont gain any assets in SP), I guess it all just comes down to the fact that it "bugs" you.

3. But there are alot of people in between, including myself. And the dedicated RPGs can stick to the rpg if they want. It's not like a T-bagger can get into their campaign somehow...

...I think I know what my next nightmare is going to be about.

Modifié par The Interloper, 14 octobre 2011 - 07:26 .

[Zanallen]

Hathur wrote...
Anyone here willing to admit they don't finish most of their games and why? I'm quite curious. 

Me. I very rarely finish the games I buy. Out of the over a thousand games that I have played in my lifetime, I have probably only finished a hundred or so. I probably have a 10% completion rate, maybe less. Granted, most of the games that I have finished have been Bioware games and they are some of the very, very few games that I have bothered to replay. Oddly enough, a lot of times I will play a game to almost the end, say final dungeon or somewhere near enough, then stop playing it for months. Then, when i finally play it again, I forget what I was doing in the game and then replay it from the beginning only to stop again. Most jRPGs end that way for me. I am currently doing that with Suikoden 3. Of course, then there are the games that I will play for a few hours, enjoying the experience, but then still stop playing. Latest example of that would be Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

[Hathur]

Zanallen wrote...

Hathur wrote...
Anyone here willing to admit they don't finish most of their games and why? I'm quite curious. 

Me. I very rarely finish the games I buy. Out of the over a thousand games that I have played in my lifetime, I have probably only finished a hundred or so. I probably have a 10% completion rate, maybe less. Granted, most of the games that I have finished have been Bioware games and they are some of the very, very few games that I have bothered to replay. Oddly enough, a lot of times I will play a game to almost the end, say final dungeon or somewhere near enough, then stop playing it for months. Then, when i finally play it again, I forget what I was doing in the game and then replay it from the beginning only to stop again. Most jRPGs end that way for me. I am currently doing that with Suikoden 3. Of course, then there are the games that I will play for a few hours, enjoying the experience, but then still stop playing. Latest example of that would be Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

Wow, that's some hardcore gaming there.. and I thought I was obsessed with gaming.  I'll usually buy 6 games in a year at absolute most, so I often have plenty of time to finish them. Though some games certainly take me longer than others (I.e. I bought Fallout NV on release but only finished it a few months ago... I'd play little bits at a time).

Mass Effect series are the only ones I played through in unhealthy manners (many hours a day non stop for maybe a whole week until I finished everything in it. When ME2 came out I took a 1 week vacation just to play it  )... although when I was little I did play Wing Commander 4 over a 20 hour marathon. Dad was NOT pleased with me 

Those two games / series are the only ones I played massive marathons through though. Most other games I parcel slowly over time, jumping between each time. Maybe play 1 hour of one game, then jump to another and play it for an hour, etc. Basically kind of like game-rationing to make it last like a delicious piece of Belgian chocolate 

Oh... PLEASE finish Deus Ex HR. You owe it to yourself. It was a truly wonderful game and I think you'd be doing yourself a disservice not to finish and see the end. 

Modifié par Hathur, 14 octobre 2011 - 07:53 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

In terms of finishing games, I'm compulsive. There's one game I bought years ago, that I never finished, and it still bugs the hell out of me years later. But one "level" of the game was so impossible to get through, with no intermediate save points, that after a week of reloading that level over and over and over, I finally had to quit before my PS2 went out the window.

[Lunatic LK47]

Hathur wrote...


Are people so drenched in cash they can just toss 60 dollars at a game, play it a few hours and then toss it away before finishing it? 

A game would have to be exceedingly dull or broken for me to completely put it down without finishing. Though I tend not to have to do this since I research a game before I buy it so I know whether it is a good game for me or not.

I normally complete the games I bought myself, but there were times I actually regretted buying them since I actually wanted to try them, or that my friend bought the games I was on the fence on without my asking for it. Regretted spending almost $70 (Living in Northern California, where it's a 9.5% tax rate) on Fallout 3, and I just gave it away after playing literally half of the game (where I accidentally skipped 3 story quests just because I accidentally ran into Liam "Dad" Neeson when I was sidequest binging) just because of the tedious micromanagement involved (i.e. Spending more time in the Pip-Boy emptying my inventory), not to mention the amount of system lock-ups my Xbox 360 had, and I just ended up not caring about the game. BTW, I owned Fallout 3 for 5 months, just to get the record straight.

Games that I bought, but never could complete because of **** design:

Any movie licensed game (only games I actually could complete were Enter The Matrix and Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay)

Games that had **** design that I've beaten and regretted buying:

Ninja Gaiden for X-Box: 9/10 times, all of my deaths were camera-related. It's as stupid as expecting a blind person to pass a driving test.

Breakdown for the X-Box: For a game that tries to make it "realistic," I found the hand-to-hand combat to be clunky, making all of my fights reliant on luck than skill.

Alpha Protocol: Had numerous bugs to contend with, and had to reload from the last check point whenever a glitch prevented me from progressing through the game. Also should add that Obsidian never bothered playtesting the game for making sure the controls are responsive enough for the shooting mechanics.

KOTOR 2:  Need I say more? Incomplete game rushed out for Christmas.

Call of Duty 3:  Hated the campaign in its entirety. Regretted that Mom bought it for me at $40 for Christmas, considering I was on the fence about it.  Gave me a bad first impression with Treyarch, and avoided World at War and Black Ops BECAUSE OF IT.  Saw the Let's Plays of those two, and I'm GLAD I never bought it.'

Mercenaries 1 and 2:  If I want to get the "optimal results" I have to deal with a **** gameplay design (i.e. If I want more money, capturing HVTs alive is more reliant on luck than skill, and of course, I have to capture said HVT in the middle of 100+  NPCs. That alone did not surprise me on the reason why Pandemic Studios got shut down.

Games that friend bought that I didn't ask for:

Punisher for the X-Box: Beaten the game, but hated the fact that unlocking upgrades for my weapons and equipment is reliant on having a high score.

Both Dead Rising games: Already completed, but not bothering with achievement whoring

Lost Planet 2: Never opened, yet

Monster Madness: Battle of Suburbia: I never even HEARD of the game. Still wrapped in plastic covering

Dragon Age:Origins: I finished the Circle of Magi as a Mage character, and just gave up half-way when in Orzamar. I blame it on the fact that the console ports are basically bastardized versions of the PC. If I had a capable PC, I'd might have a less frustrating experience, but the DRM prevented me from buying it, period. Unfortunately, I can't justify spending $500+ bucks just to upgrade all of my hardware especially with the economy we're in.

RoboCop for the X-Box: The game as a whole sucked, and I'm still on Mission 6 or 7, just because the game doesn't save properly.

Crackdown 2: I only completed three missions, and was busy with orb collecting for the sake of maxing out my character.

Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2: Still haven't popped the CD in, and by the time the game hit $20, Activision's greediness prevented me from downloading their DLC characters 5 months after release just because of **** sales (i.e. Activision shut down their DLC services for MUA2). I now have to physically drive over to my friend's house 20 miles away just to mess around with my X-Box profiles and download his DLC data.

Gears of War 3: I was waiting for the $20 price trag, but he wanted me on the co-op bandwagon, not to mention I have a Myspace/Facebook friend that's crazy about Gears.

[Zanallen]

Hathur wrote...

Wow, that's some hardcore gaming there.. and I thought I was obsessed with gaming.  I'll usually buy 6 games in a year at absolute most, so I often have plenty of time to finish them. Though some games certainly take me longer than others (I.e. I bought Fallout NV on release but only finished it a few months ago... I'd play little bits at a time).

Mass Effect series are the only ones I played through in unhealthy manners (many hours a day non stop for maybe a whole week until I finished everything in it. When ME2 came out I took a 1 week vacation just to play it  )... although when I was little I did play Wing Commander 4 over a 20 hour marathon. Dad was NOT pleased with me 

Those two games / series are the only ones I played massive marathons through though. Most other games I parcel slowly over time, jumping between each time. Maybe play 1 hour of one game, then jump to another and play it for an hour, etc. Basically kind of like game-rationing to make it last like a delicious piece of Belgian chocolate 

Oh... PLEASE finish Deus Ex HR. You owe it to yourself. It was a truly wonderful game and I think you'd be doing yourself a disservice not to finish and see the end. 

Oh I don't buy that many games. I'm 27 and have been gaming since I was about 5 or so. That would be 45 games a year. I own a lot of games, but that would be ridiculous. No, my cousins and I rented a lot of games when we were younger and then I worked at Blockbuster for five years. We had five free rentals a week there so I was able to play a whole hell of a lot of games.

And I probably will finish Deus Ex eventually. Right now I am working on Suikoden. Despite absolutely loving the series, I never actually finished 3, 4 or 5. For each, I have reached the last dungeons and then just stopped playing for one reason or another.

Edit: I currently only own 194 games, but that is after selling all of my 360 games, my PSP games and half of my DS games. Nor does it include any of the games I had for SNES, NES, Virtual Boy, Game Gear or others that I no longer have for various other reasons.

Modifié par Zanallen, 14 octobre 2011 - 08:08 .

[JeffZero]

Zanallen wrote...

Hathur wrote...

Wow, that's some hardcore gaming there.. and I thought I was obsessed with gaming.  I'll usually buy 6 games in a year at absolute most, so I often have plenty of time to finish them. Though some games certainly take me longer than others (I.e. I bought Fallout NV on release but only finished it a few months ago... I'd play little bits at a time).

Mass Effect series are the only ones I played through in unhealthy manners (many hours a day non stop for maybe a whole week until I finished everything in it. When ME2 came out I took a 1 week vacation just to play it  )... although when I was little I did play Wing Commander 4 over a 20 hour marathon. Dad was NOT pleased with me 

Those two games / series are the only ones I played massive marathons through though. Most other games I parcel slowly over time, jumping between each time. Maybe play 1 hour of one game, then jump to another and play it for an hour, etc. Basically kind of like game-rationing to make it last like a delicious piece of Belgian chocolate 

Oh... PLEASE finish Deus Ex HR. You owe it to yourself. It was a truly wonderful game and I think you'd be doing yourself a disservice not to finish and see the end. 

Oh I don't buy that many games. I'm 27 and have been gaming since I was about 5 or so. That would be 45 games a year. I own a lot of games, but that would be ridiculous. No, my cousins and I rented a lot of games when we were younger and then I worked at Blockbuster for five years. We had five free rentals a week there so I was able to play a whole hell of a lot of games.

And I probably will finish Deus Ex eventually. Right now I am working on Suikoden. Despite absolutely loving the series, I never actually finished 3, 4 or 5. For each, I have reached the last dungeons and then just stopped playing for one reason or another.

I'm working on Suikoden too. Never played them back in the day though. Too busy absorbing every Squaresoft made into my bloodstream, I suppose.

Wonderful series so far.

[JeffZero]

Man, speaking of which. I have so... very... many games I still need to play. O, time and money, where art thou?

[Merci357]

Hathur wrote...

Mass Effect series are the only ones I played through in unhealthy manners (many hours a day non stop for maybe a whole week until I finished everything in it. When ME2 came out I took a 1 week vacation just to play it  )... although when I was little I did play Wing Commander 4 over a 20 hour marathon. Dad was NOT pleased with me 

Those two games / series are the only ones I played massive marathons through though. Most other games I parcel slowly over time, jumping between each time. Maybe play 1 hour of one game, then jump to another and play it for an hour, etc. Basically kind of like game-rationing to make it last like a delicious piece of Belgian chocolate 

Oh... PLEASE finish Deus Ex HR. You owe it to yourself. It was a truly wonderful game and I think you'd be doing yourself a disservice not to finish and see the end. 

DE:HR was a fine game, yep.

Totally unrelated to the topic, but since you mentioned it... What happened to those Space Sim (no idea how to call that genre) games? I loved the Wind Commander/ X-Wing- Tie fighter games back in the 90's...

[Zanallen]

JeffZero wrote...

I'm working on Suikoden too. Never played them back in the day though. Too busy absorbing every Squaresoft made into my bloodstream, I suppose.

Wonderful series so far.

Oh? Did you somehow manage to get a hold of Suikoden 2?

[JeffZero]

Merci357 wrote...

Hathur wrote...

Mass Effect series are the only ones I played through in unhealthy manners (many hours a day non stop for maybe a whole week until I finished everything in it. When ME2 came out I took a 1 week vacation just to play it  )... although when I was little I did play Wing Commander 4 over a 20 hour marathon. Dad was NOT pleased with me 

Those two games / series are the only ones I played massive marathons through though. Most other games I parcel slowly over time, jumping between each time. Maybe play 1 hour of one game, then jump to another and play it for an hour, etc. Basically kind of like game-rationing to make it last like a delicious piece of Belgian chocolate 

Oh... PLEASE finish Deus Ex HR. You owe it to yourself. It was a truly wonderful game and I think you'd be doing yourself a disservice not to finish and see the end. 

DE:HR was a fine game, yep.

Totally unrelated to the topic, but since you mentioned it... What happened to those Space Sim (no idea how to call that genre) games? I loved the Wind Commander/ X-Wing- Tie fighter games back in the 90's...

X-Wing, TIE Fighter and, well, X-Wing versus TIE Fighter. Those games were amazing. I keep meaning to track down a good Logitech WingMan joystick and boot them up again sometime.

The subgenre just kinda died, unfortunately.

[JeffZero]

Zanallen wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

I'm working on Suikoden too. Never played them back in the day though. Too busy absorbing every Squaresoft made into my bloodstream, I suppose.

Wonderful series so far.

Oh? Did you somehow manage to get a hold of Suikoden 2?

Yes and no. I really wish they'd release it on PSN in the West, damn. The first one is on there, I mean, geez!

The 'yes and no' translates to... um, well, I'd love to get my hands on a physical copy but I can't right now. So yeah, other means. 

[The Interloper]

I finish almost all the games I play. I think the longest it's taken me was four or five months.

JeffZero wrote...

Man, speaking of which. I have so... very... many games I still need to play. O, time and money, where art thou?

I sat down the other day and wrote down all the games I'm interested in and came up with around 10. And more on the way.