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[JeffZero]

The Interloper wrote...

I finish almost all the games I play. I think the longest it's taken me was four or five months.

JeffZero wrote...

Man, speaking of which. I have so... very... many games I still need to play. O, time and money, where art thou?

I sat down the other day and wrote down all the games I'm interested in and came up with around 10. And more on the way.

I definitely have more than that. Most of them are years old now though is the thing. In terms of the up-and-coming, eh, somewhere around six, maybe. ME3 and Zelda are the only two I talk about much though.

[Zanallen]

JeffZero wrote...

Yes and no. I really wish they'd release it on PSN in the West, damn. The first one is on there, I mean, geez!

The 'yes and no' translates to... um, well, I'd love to get my hands on a physical copy but I can't right now. So yeah, other means. 

Yeah, Konami is rather adept at pissing me off when it comes to bringing Suikoden stateside. My friend used to own both Suikoden 1 and 2. I played and beat them both back then. When 1 was released on the PSN, I picked it up. (I mean, its only $7 or so), but there is no way I would pay $200 dollars for Suikoden 2. That's just silly. And that is the low end of the prices I have seen.

Suikoden 2 is arguably the best game in the series, while 4 is usually considered the worst if only because of the frequency of random battles. 3 is the most different of the game, with a different battle system and 3D graphics and the trinity system.

[Hathur]

Merci357 wrote...

DE:HR was a fine game, yep.

Totally unrelated to the topic, but since you mentioned it... What happened to those Space Sim (no idea how to call that genre) games? I loved the Wind Commander/ X-Wing- Tie fighter games back in the 90's...

Like Jeff said the genre basically died around the time Wing Commander Prophecy came out (the genre was in its death throes by then). It had been essentially played to exhaustion with so many games (though I personally never grew tired of them. The original Wing Commander & X-Wing were one of my earliest games on my 386 PC as a child)

There have been some forays into the genre over the years.. but usually by much smaller eastern European developers. games like X2-The Threat, X3-Reunion, X3-Terran Conflict (all good games),  etc made some wonderful space simulators but they are aimed at only the utmost hardscore sci fi simulator fans (which I am one of).. so those games get very little press / attention. There have been several others too but most are quite poorly made to be honest.

I'd love nothing more to see a resurgence in the genre... I want a new Wing Commander simulator game.. I was saddened when I heard Wing Commander Prophecy was to be the last one they would make, I loved those games 

[1136342t54_]

Tigerblood and MilkShakes wrote...

Giving everything ive read and saw from interviews dealing with BW stuff/devs
honestly im not really sure

How about we get the diehard fanboys,then neutrals and the i hate BW fans now.put them in a parking lot one with four areas.side has BW stuff/devs and the other side Beth and anther side has Valve and the other area is empyt.see where people go

The Neutrals already play the **** out of Bethesda and Valve. Diehard fanboys hate Bethesda and indiffferent about Valve. I hate BW fans will slit their wrists since BW isn't the messiah to them anymore.

I see no other way this will go.

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 14 octobre 2011 - 08:24 .

[Zanallen]

jreezy wrote...

Wow $200 for a game is pretty incredible. Come to think of it I think I've seen Shenmue for around that much. *Sigh*

Well, Konami released the game in the US as a limited release and then never made more. It became a sort of cult classic so, with the limited quantity, the price skyrocketed despite it being a PSOne game. Some people are just ridiculous though. I have seen people asking for $800 or more for it.

[JeffZero]

Zanallen wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Wow $200 for a game is pretty incredible. Come to think of it I think I've seen Shenmue for around that much. *Sigh*

Well, Konami released the game in the US as a limited release and then never made more. It became a sort of cult classic so, with the limited quantity, the price skyrocketed despite it being a PSOne game. Some people are just ridiculous though. I have seen people asking for $800 or more for it.

Yep.

[Reptillius]

Your question can't truely be answered because your terms are way too individualized and personal in nature.

Us Core Gamers from say the Baldur's Gate era aren't getting anything like what we started out with anymore. Some try sometimes but that era at this point is lost for the most part.

If We're going by the KoToR era... many of those are already lost and gone... Or things have been changed from there era as well...

If your going from the current era. Most of the true RPG players and core gamers at this point. They already play those other companies as well as Bioware. You know why? It's a small market without a lot of games for us to play... even with the replayability of many good rpg's.

Did DA2 do a bit poorly in some respects? yes. it did. But you can also look at the DLC they are releasing and see that they realize that they did. And they are trying to fix that with what they left themselves room to do within the structure of that game. That also means that they will likely improve in the next attempt with the next game if they try to do it.

But in the end? most RPG's have either been streamlined to the point that a couple of these groups don't really recognize them. Or made clunky in ways that some of these companies should know didn't work to begin with and not all of that can be blamed on the consoles.

What they are doing to ME3 once we consider all this? isn't going to lose them as much as you'd think. It's going to be other things that make or break them at this point. Just like it did with DA2.

edit: on DA2 DLC I should be more specific... The story based DLC is definitely better...  I won't be buying any more of their weapon packs at this point. We'll see about ME3 ones as well. Those are an issue of sorts in my mind.

Modifié par Reptillius, 14 octobre 2011 - 08:34 .

[hangmans tree]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Oh, and we are not losing fans. We've been steadily increasing our community for years now.

that is ... disturbing...

[addiction21]

hangmans tree wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Oh, and we are not losing fans. We've been steadily increasing our community for years now.

that is ... disturbing...

Ya not everyone likes evything you do... shocking...

Modifié par addiction21, 14 octobre 2011 - 09:45 .

[FataliTensei]

tez19 wrote...

From a purely business perspective it makes sense for Bioware to try to reach a wider audience to gain more profit. However due to kinect intergration and now multiplayer introduced into Mass Effect3 (so this is related to this forum mods) are they gaining more fans than they are potentially losing? It is a well known fact that RPG players like what they like and enjoy a good thorough singleplayer experience, adding multiplayer and kinect could very easily upset them (Bioware's 'core' crowd) and they may boycott the studio and move on to companies who still make great singleplayer RPG's (CDPR, BETHESDA). However adding multiplayer to attract people who have not much interest in RPG's from the get-go might be a bit counter-productive as they have no interest in RPG genre and therefore will never pick the game up to play its multiplayer. With Bioware's recent direction (Dragon Age 2 and the wider appeal to casual gamers) are they doing the right thing? Are they gaining more fans then they risk losing? Or are they going to lose their 'core' crowd and not gain many new casual's?

IDK man, they'll probably gain more business as sadly the gaming market is dominated by SWMGs and thats the kind of gimicky crap they're into.

I'll finish out Mass Effect 3 because I feel the need to complete my Sheperd's story and the game will most likely still be enjoyable, the implementation of M/M romances was very cool for me (one of the few things bioware has done for the minority lately). But after ME3, I can safely say I'm done with bioware, after DA2 and ME2 for me the direction the company is going is nothing I want to be part of. Maybe in the future is bioware gets back to their original fanbase, not saying they have to abandon the SWMG crowd, but focuses on the people that have been with them before all these simplications and "dumbing downs", then maybe I'll spend my money on their products, but I doubt that will ever happen. I'll save my money and spend it on something worth it.

After ME3, I'll probably give my 2 cents on this forum and then delete my profile on here seeing as how I'll have no need for it anymore. And please don't think I'm saying that to "nerdrage" or try to make a point, I just won't need it anymore and I don't really want my internet handle on this site anymore after that.

Modifié par FataliTensei, 14 octobre 2011 - 09:48 .

[tez19]

For the statistics of 10% of gamers complete their games or 10% of games started are completed is an absolute disgrace and surprise to me. I have never not completed a game. I find that statistic absolutely amazing and worry about the mental health of my peers who also play games that never finish them. Also DE:HR is an amazing agme and world. Please complete it.

[string3r]

Bioware don't give a crap about their core fanbase anymore.

ME2 already showed that, ME3 will be the final nail in the coffin.

And it's such a shame as well, ME1 was an awesome game.

[TheRealJayDee]

Hathur wrote...

Anyone here willing to admit they don't finish most of their games and why? I'm quite curious. 

I used to finish every game I bought, but lately I just don't have the time to play anywhere near as much as I'd like. And there are games like DA:O and the first two Mass Effects, that I replay on a regular basis, often instead of titles I haven't yet finished. Hm, there was one month this year I used pretty much all of my dedicated gaming time to replay the hell out of Master of Magic on DOSbox. Right now on my "damn, still unfinished" list:

L.A. Noire
God of War 1&2
Demon's Souls

Soon they will be joined by the HD remakes of ICO and Shadow of the Colossus, as well as the nostalgic Gemini Rue. Oh, and I haven't even started to play the first Witcher game, although I bought it about a year ago.

I'll have them all finished one day, though. I only purchase games I know I'll like and play. And DA2.

[Thompson family]

Hathur wrote...

Anyone here willing to admit they don't finish most of their games and why? I'm quite curious. 

Sometimes, the game lives up to the hype and sometimes it doesn't. I never particularly cared for Oblivion, for instance. I finished it, and my kids love it. It gets played a lot, just not by me.

HALO, for instance, is one of the most highly praised games ever made. I bought it (after the price had gone down to about $10) and barely got through the first stage,where you get off the ship.

Master Chief would walk in and the other marines would say: "All RIGHT! The cavalry's here" and such as that. Sure, Master Chief is supposed to be a supersoldier, but good grief. It all struck me as a bunch of juvenile ego-stroke.

[Eckswhyzee]

luk4s3d wrote...

I can only speak for myself, but i suspect they'll probably gain huge numbers with this co-op, but most of these players wont touch the campaign. I can't believe they've just cashed in on the current trend for co-op.

I'm so gutted, they've utterly murdered ME for me, and i'll NOT be buying ME3.

i'll be avoiding Bioware like the plague now, i'm so dissapointed it's untrue!

WTFFFFFF!!!!!!!!????????? :huh::huh:

So people are going to spend good money for a new video game but NOT PLAY THE 30HR CAMPAIGN!?

Anyway, I know multiplayer is going to so awesome because it creates a reality-warping spacetime singularity sucking in development resources from the Bioware studio developing single-player separately.

[hotdogbsg]

Eckswhyzee wrote...



WTFFFFFF!!!!!!!!????????? :huh::huh:

So people are going to spend good money for a new video game but NOT PLAY THE 30HR CAMPAIGN!?

What good is a 30 hour sp campaign when they've included optional multiplayer.

It's like Bioware has ripped out my heart, threw it on the ground then defectated on it.

[tobynator89]

this is retarded speculation. From what we've seen so far you can't even touch the co-op without playing the SP.

[CAPSLOCK FURY]

hotdogbsg wrote...

What good is a 30 hour sp campaign when they've included optional multiplayer.

It's like Bioware has ripped out my heart, threw it on the ground then defectated on it.

You make my brain hurt.

[Eckswhyzee]

hotdogbsg wrote...

Eckswhyzee wrote...



WTFFFFFF!!!!!!!!????????? :huh::huh:

So people are going to spend good money for a new video game but NOT PLAY THE 30HR CAMPAIGN!?

What good is a 30 hour sp campaign when they've included optional multiplayer.

It's like Bioware has ripped out my heart, threw it on the ground then defectated on it.

Poe's Law (Mass Effect multiplayer corollary): Any parody of multiplayer haters will be indistinguishable from the real thing.

[Eckswhyzee]

@luk4s3d

That's the thing - I don't believe that 90% of Mass Effect 3 players will be rubbish. Even playing Black Ops online is pretty good, just remember to mute everyone. And COD players are not going to all be playing Mass Effect 3. There seems to be a belief on this board that Plays COD <=> Shooter fanboy <=> rude ****.

Alternatively, there are these things called friends. I know that a nonzero number of mine will buy Mass Effect 3. Or, you could join one of the multiplayer groups on these boards.