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[xentar]

I don't even know if my pre-order worked in the first place.

[Jorina Leto]

Multiplayer takes something I wanted out of the game. So I won't buy it.

Modifié par Jorina Leto, 13 octobre 2011 - 04:51 .

[MonkeySeeker]

Why does it bother others so much if someone cancels their pre-order? It's not going to affect you is it?

[riv84]

I was tempted to cancel my pre-order after the MP announcement but decided I will give Bioware one more chance. If the game is shorter than 20 hours however this will be the last time I pay full price for a Bioware game.

[happy_daiz]

Just look at the multiplayer as a free DLC. 
 

Modifié par happy_daiz, 13 octobre 2011 - 05:02 .

[Aaleel]

It depends. If you've seen/heard/read some things that give you pause, and you cancel your pre-order, one of two things will happen.

1) The game comes out, you read some reviews, talk to some friends, play a friends copy and figure out you were right, you don't like it. You save yourself $60 dollars or more.

2) Game comes out, you do the same things, and find out your fears were unsubstantiated and you buy it. You lose out on some extras.

Either way, cancelling your pre-order is not some egregious act.

[mineralica]

To tell the truth, I didn't cancel my preorder because I hadn't got anything to cancel. Not from the lack of wish, though, our super fast EA Russia still didn't open preorders on box versions of CE.

H3WM Sarge wrote...

 I cannot grasp what some of the alarmed fans expect to prove by cancelling their pre-orders for Mass Effect 3 based solely on speculation about recently announced features. I will admit to being concerned and wary when I first heard word of 4-player co-op, but every bit of news since then has eased my concerns to make me skeptically optimistic (but more optimistic). Cancelling your pre-order only hurts you, proves little economically, and makes you look silly if you buy the game later.

That may be right for die hard fans who adored the development of series so far. For me, however, multiplayer is just the last in the list of unpleasant events started with little importance of player's choices, continued by Cerberus forming 40% of enemies, question about armour of female squadmates and favoritism to character I can't stand. So multiplayer just moved this game from "will preorder if price would be reasonable" to "will wait until reviews and then make a decision".

Why did you pre-order in the first place? I pre-ordered the Collectors Edition for the N7 weapons, the dog, the Shepard hoodie, and the bonus squadmate skins. If I remember correctly, the Incisor sniper rifle was part of the Collectors Edition for Mass Effect 2, and it was pretty badass. They also picked up an extra suit of armor and a heavy weapon. I don't want to miss out on these things this time around. The extra things that come with the Collectors Edition for ME3 are just bonus perks to make me feel special. I figured that an extra $20 for some cool swag and some in-game stuff was worth it, considering some of the items, such as the weapons and appearance packs, would probably be released as DLC to the masses at a later date. So, by cancelling your pre-order due to multiplayer concerns, you lose things that enhance your singleplayer experience. Does that really make sense? Cancelling out on bonus single player content because of an optional multipalyer feature does not seem to make sense to me.

Let's see:
- don't care about DLC weapons while I can have Claymore and Widow
- can't stand any kind of pets in game. Three cats and a dog IRL is enough.
- like default Shepard's outfit, consider hoodie as "out of setting"
- from 4 reskins I like 1. But it's for my favourite char. But he has good looking default armour.

So this items don't worth $20 for me. As for being special... being russian and buying a game makes me feel special enough.

And... "cancelling my preorder" means "cancelling my singleplayer experience", no? What's the point in taking decision basing on what will happen if you'll decide differently later?

The next problem I see with this concept is the idea that cancelling a pre-order will hurt the company economically and force them to change. I don't see how cancelling will affect BioWare and EA's profits enough to force them to remove the multiplayer components. These companies have invested a great deal of time and money into these features to make sure they work. Mass Effect 2 is a well-loved game by many of its fans, and EA knows this. They are not going to tack on a poorly-made co-op engine with the hopes of tricking new customers into the game, because they know they're relying on current fans to convince their friends who haven't played the game to buy it. They know that a good co-op system with an amazing single-player experience will have the gamers buzzing about it constantly and will thus drag more people in. Moreover, the bulk of their profits on the game come from the actual sale of the game, not the preorders. So, once again, how do you propose to harm them economically? If a small percentage of preorders cancel, how's that going to compare to the millions of copy this game will sell anyway to the casual fans who will hop on as soon as the pre-release campaign starts?

I'm not trying to hurt them economically. BTW spending money to implement a feature and then giving it up without even trying to sell is too much loss of money to happen.

Lastly, and this is far more subjective, how are you going to feel later if Mass Effect 3 succeeds? Mass Effect 3 is five months away, and we will continue to learn more tidbits about the game as we get closer to release. Some people threatening to cancel their preorders, or those who actually did, will probably end up playing the game anyway at some point. If you're as passionate a fan as you claim to be that you will jump ship to "save the game," then I find it highly unlikely that you will actually NOT play Mass Effect 3. What will you think of yourself if you play the game and find that you really love it like you did the first two games? Granted, this assumes that Mass Effect 3 is good, and we've yet to play it. But, honestly, prior to the announcement a few days ago about multiplayer, we didn't see all these freakout posts. What will you do if the single-player is as amazing as it looks like it's going to be, and what will you do if you actually find the co-op enjoyable???

If reviews would be positive and prove that despite having to take ton of decision into consideration and not that big development time, complicated by necessity to implement multiplayer and deal with balancing powers for both single- and multiplayer, Mass Effect 3 is a game of my dream, then I'll grab money and go to local store for my copy. I know very well that I'm human being and my judgement isn't absolute.

As for co-op... I don't see why I will try that, but if stars will be strange and I'd not only play this but also enjoy doing that. then I'll admit I was wrong. What's the big deal?

I just needed to get this off of my chest. After skimming throgh literally thousands of posts expressing deep anger and hatred for multiplayer, BioWare, EA, and such, I just can't wrap my mind around the idea that cancelling my pre-order will really accomplish anything. I am looking forward to the collectors edition stuff I will receive on March 6th, I don't see how your loss of a guaranteed $60-$80 will actually make EA or BioWare flinch, and I wonder how you'll feel if the game actually succeeds.

My thoughts. I'm sure many of you will disagree and post all-caps rage posts in here about how BioWare has been poisoned by EA, co-op will destroy single player, multiplayer will suck up all the disc space, and how the resources spent on an entirely different studio to develop an awesome co-op experience to complement the awesome single player experience is a waste of singleplayer resources. Have fun with those, but respond to the three points I made, please?

"Cancelling preorder" (or, in my case, giving up idea to buy a game immediately after I'll get such opportunity) shouldn't be the decision targeting to say "BioWare and EA, I am disappoint" - that's rather immature. It's just the act preventing losing sum of money from buying a not that pleasing game. EA might not notice the loss of $60, but I will, so when I have questions about if the game will be of my liking or not, I prefer waiting for some solid info.

[Weskerr]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

Half of them are empty threats, another quarter are nerdrage butthurt by people who dont know about Biowares history of MP in RPG's, and the final quarter are those who are not willing to accept the intrusiveness of Origin.

As far as I'm concerned, the Origin reason is a valid one. Ive already cancelled mine due to my concerns over it, irrespective of the fact I know how to bypass without having to resort to "illegal" cracks.
As you said, there is still 5 months until its release, so there is plenty of time to put the pre-order back in should EA come to the party about Origin's T&Cs.

My finger is on the cancel-pre-order-button. Whether or not I press it depends on Bioware's official comfirmation of ME3 requiring or not requiring Origin. Believe me, I can live without playing ME3 if I have to.

[Robbiesan]

I pre-ordered this game because I like the ME universe. Loved ME1 and 2. Co-op is not changing that for me, not should it for anyone else.

From my understanding you can still play as single player and co-op is simply an option. Perhaps I am missing something as some folks are flipping out and doing their best chicken little impression?

[GreenSoda]

I think it also has a lot to do with DA2. That really put a dent into BW's reputation -perhaps so much that hearing anything negative about ME3 (and spending resources on an unwanted feature surely counts as negative) prompts some fans to cancle their preorder.

[jeweledleah]

my money is valuable to me. by canceling my pre-order and waiting until the game goes on sale (at a minimum - depending on the reviews, videos, information - it might end up going the way of Starcraft wings of liberty for me - never purchased at all, and I used to be a huge starcraft fan) - I'm opening up my budget for other games I might have waited on otherwise. it might not make that big of a dent in sales for bioware but it shows them that some people no longer consider their work worth a full price. or any price.

am I hurting myself that way? not really. collector's edition swag? all fluff. I can guarantee you that the extra mission and squadmate will eventually be available for separate purchase, as a DLC. not seeing how the story ends? that's what wiki and youtube is for. would I buy it anyway? maybe - it depends. but I'd pay a lot less for it, and will buy 2 (or more) games instead of just one.

I say - its a win-win.

now, depending on the information trickling down in the next few weeks, I might end up preordering again. if the information will show me, that yes, its worth the full price to me. we shall see. but recent announcements basically showed me that bioware games is no longer an automatic day one purchase. well - Valve is there as well nowadays. I'm picky. and frugal.

[KenKenpachi]

Whats funny is in this case it does nothing. Because accodring to Gamestop pre-orders have picked up. So yeah its only telling them the minority group of so called "fans" aren't needed anymore. But hey if they don't want it thats fully up to them. However if they think it will change anything they are kidding themselves.

[_purifico_]

What's not to understand? They are making a stand, voting with their wallets against features they do not aprove of. And that I can respect. Those guys have balls. I myself have no interest in multiplayer, but i am not concerned as I'm sure that ME3 will be awesome. I have faith in ME development team.

And those who gloat over the fact that the preorder numbers have risen despite those people canceling theirs, are pathetic.

Modifié par _purifico_, 13 octobre 2011 - 05:50 .

[ryoldschool]

Robbiesan wrote...

I pre-ordered this game because I like the ME universe. Loved ME1 and 2. Co-op is not changing that for me, not should it for anyone else.

From my understanding you can still play as single player and co-op is simply an option. Perhaps I am missing something as some folks are flipping out and doing their best chicken little impression?

I preordered ME3 in Dec last year.  I did that because ME2 is the best video game I've ever played, and its so varied that I have played countless variations.  When I pre-ordered I expected ME3 to be as good or better than ME2, and for the last 10 months everything I saw made me think that.   Then they say they "added" multiplayer, an optional thing.

People are upset about the MP because its difficult to believe that the single player component did not suffer from resources being diverted to make the MP.  If you argue otherwise that means that we just got MP for "free".

Its just a video game, so I still have my pre-order in, I'm just hoping ME3 is as good as ME2.

[Kekkis]

How they are hurting themselves? They can buy it after release too, if they want. CE has mostly useless or optional extra stuff in it anyway. They can get normal edition whenever they think price is right or they are sure they will like the game. Or not get it at all if they don´t want to install Origin.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

There should be an option here on the forums to add "cancelled pre-order" for whatever game to add under your Avatar.

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

Cancelling an order (and even better: buying a used copy of the game) is the only action one can do to show it's disaproval to EA.
Not doing it (when your hold a grudge against EA of course) because the chances it actually have an effect is slight is like thinking your vote doesn't matter during an election.

[OMTING52601]

I'm not sure where GameStop gets their numbers from, but ME 3 has been holding in 13th position on the preorder sales charts for several weeks now. We'll have to wait til Saturday to see if the numbers change by much by announcing MP.
And preorder number, much like umemployment numbers, only show new preorders, they don't show cancellations of previously preordered content. Giving a google to the whole MP ditty, it looks like the majority of players, be they hardcore or casual, aren't all that thrilled with the idea. Proof enough is all the CYA going on, the web vids, the commentary being posted all over gods green, trying to quell the rising tide of... well, whatever 'this' is, exactly.
If people don't buy the game when it hits the shelves, in droves(never mind preorders) I suppose that will say everything that needs said. We've got nearly half a year to wait and see, right? I'll leave my preorder as it stands simply because the ten or twenty bucks I paid isn't going to do me any more good in my pocket, realistically, than it is sitting in a GS bank account, waiting to be used on the sixth of March next year If the game blows, well I preordered DA2 as well. Been there, ROFL, done that. And after a dozen or so play throughs, I've come to really enjoy DA2, so it wasn't all for naught.
Hindsight being, I won't lie, I would have waited and got DA2 on the cheap. And used, LOL!

[Cyberstrike nTo]

Even though I'm greatly disappointed with the MP element of Mass Effect 3 I'm not canceling my pre-orders of it, chances are I won't play the MP, because I find the MP element announced for Mass Effect 3 stupid. As long I'm able to play the single player game and hopefully I will enjoy it.

Modifié par Cyberstrike nTo, 13 octobre 2011 - 06:14 .

[Seanylegit]

Darth Death wrote...

Can I agree with you without reading anything that you've written?

Basically.

[BeastMTL]

I cancelled my CE pre-order, and am glad I did.. MP just tipped the scale for me to go from OMG I cant wait.. to meh!. I no longer have much interest in the game (and less faith in the devs, especially after DA2). So I save myself $80 now and if it's good, pick it up in the bargain bin much later.

[Ancient Metal]

Not only have I cancelled my preorder, so has my girlfriend. We are disgusted and don't want to waste our money.

I also cancelled my preorder of The Old Republic. But not all is lost. I have Skyrim paid for in full now.

[Prince Zeel]

I love how everyone can whine and flip the f*ck out over stupid **** like Ashley's clothing, but features that effect the gameplay. OH NO, THATS OFF LIMITS!

This community is very hypocritical. If the chick/guy wants to cancel their order, let them. I find it amusing that this forum, OF ALL places is trying to meditate whining.

Grow up community, some of us just don't like Multiplayer.

[DaringMoosejaw]

Ancient Metal wrote...

Not only have I cancelled my preorder, so has my girlfriend. We are disgusted and don't want to waste our money.

I also cancelled my preorder of The Old Republic. But not all is lost. I have Skyrim paid for in full now.

Ancient Metal's dog, grandmother, third cousin twice removed AND his barber have also cancelled their pre-orders.