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Why Give Up Your Pre-Orders? You Only Hurt Yourself.


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I'm not cancelling my pre-order though I would love to know how to disable Origin. I've limited its accessibility in my firewall, but I don't know what good that would do.

I'm unhappy with the way the series has progressed. The short development time for both ME2 and ME3 have left a sour taste in my mouth.

There have been many ideas brought up by posters (who would be trashed by others because they know posters here aren't professional writers) that are better than what was presented. Many fit the scenarios we've come across to a 't' and don't ruin any consistency in said scenarios.

When easy fixes can be conjured up and I combine that with the time spent developing the game and story, I can't help but think it was a rush job from the very beginning. $60 for a game that likely has the same budget as a blockbuster movie and the movie will cost me as much as $40 (movie ticket and dvd sale). When I put things into that kind of perspective and see that obvious errors that can be fixed are left in the final product, I have no interest in supporting said company. Call me weird if you want, but my money is valuable to me.

So I'll buy my CE and be done with the series as it is. I'm giving the Dragon Age series one more shot. Though I like the story in DA2 there's very little replay value for me.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Weskerr wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...
Half of them are empty threats, another quarter are nerdrage butthurt by people who dont know about Biowares history of MP in RPG's, and the final quarter are those who are not willing to accept the intrusiveness of Origin.
As far as I'm concerned, the Origin reason is a valid one. Ive already cancelled mine due to my concerns over it, irrespective of the fact I know how to bypass without having to resort to "illegal" cracks.
As you said, there is still 5 months until its release, so there is plenty of time to put the pre-order back in should EA come to the party about Origin's T&Cs.

My finger is on the cancel-pre-order-button. Whether or not I press it depends on Bioware's official comfirmation of ME3 requiring or not requiring Origin. Believe me, I can live without playing ME3 if I have to.

For me it's whether it's always-online or not. If it HAS it, but doesn't have to be online, then I'm fine with that, but if it's always online I simply cannot do that.

Lol, this is why I only use my PC for Starcraft 2. If it weren't for my xbox360, I might be raging too.

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I dont blame you guys for being pissed, but we dont know a whole lot right now. They just "officially" announced it yesterday and the game doesnt come out for around 5 months, so changes can still be made.(theres even a poll under my comment :P )

I'm not against cancelling the pre order, go ahead if you want to, but what if you turn out to actually like it and miss out on the C.E(if your planning on it) and bonuses? =/

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Xeranx wrote...

There have been many ideas brought up by posters (who would be trashed by others because they know posters here aren't professional writers) that are better than what was presented. Many fit the scenarios we've come across to a 't' and don't ruin any consistency in said scenarios.


OT -I am, but I'm pretty sure I'd get thrashed too, ROFL!

To an earlier point, it does seem a bit, well, bi-polar, sometimes in this community. But that also feed into drama and excitement and helps keep fans engaged... even if they're popping a vessel in their skulls in the process :D

The only thing ANY for profit business cares about is... surprise PROFIT. If the MP turns out to be unprofitable, the servers for it will be shut down lickety split. From what I've read - here and eleswhere- most people are unhappy with the idea of MP but willing to give the game a chance as long as the MP doesn't benefit a few over the mass who will be playing SP. That said, all fronts seem to be very unhappy at perceived untruths that were given re why the game was delayed. Most, including gaming outlets and sites, were under the impression the game was delayed for SP, story based reasons. Finding out otherwise appears to have eroded consumer confidence in Bioware. *shrug*

If you gave up your preorder, that's cool. If you didn't, cool too. There's no logical reason for anyone to get het up over either decision. IMO YMMV.

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The only thing that can put me off my pre-order is Origin.

Otherwise Im a locked in sale.

Modifié par Shadesofsiknas, 13 octobre 2011 - 07:03 .


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voting with your wallet is the only real choice you have as a customer. Don´t think that your opinion does have any impact on any decision they are making. "Fans" is just another word for "likely profit".

I´m not cancelling, but I can understand everyone who does intend to do so.

Modifié par Kroitz, 13 octobre 2011 - 08:09 .


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I agree, I just made a poll just few ago. I'm already getting hated on. It pathetic, kinda sad. I were mad, unhappy at first. I though it be a fun, good idea. I'm glad you can play other species if you didn't than I be mad. I'm either way not going to cancel my orders on both systems one Collectors and one Regular. The game will be interesting, great. I hate it when people complain and hate on your opinions etc... If it were bad I understand but come on. The game will be enjoyable, wonderful.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

I suspect many people 'cancelling' their pre-orders haven't actually made one yet. Speaking only for myself, I'm not committing to a pre-order until I hear what outlets are getting which pre-order bonuses. There's no reason to commit yourself yet, let alone cancel it.

But I'm sure we'll go collector's edition for both our copies. Must have Robot doggie.


Yup, i wait for reviews these days.  And more than one, preferably.  But, I decide where to buy like that too.  Robot doggie you say.... 

Modifié par shantisands, 13 octobre 2011 - 08:30 .


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I very rarely pre-order games nowadays so wasn't able to threaten to cancel mine. :)

I used to pre-order just about every game I was looking forward to playing, but now with all the DLC that costs money, tacked-on multiplayer (not just with ME3), harmful DRM, and all the other methods companies are now using to nickel and dime us into gaming poverty, I just wait a few months/years after a game has been released before I buy it. By that time, the game is usually much lower in price and might even have a GOTY edition that includes some or all of the DLC. I'm just not spending $100 (retail + DLC) on a game.

I don't particularly have anything against Bioware specifically, and I still love their games, but companies in general have lost a lot of my goodwill. So over time, I've gone from pre-ordering nearly everything to it being an extreme rare occasion. Since I have a huge gaming backlog, I'm not missing out on anything important by waiting.

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My friend canceled his pre-order. Not to “prove” anything, but he hates the fact Bioware tacked on MP and he just wants to wait and rent it instead.


I did not cancel my pre-order, but I would be lying if I said I wasn’t disappointed about MP. I think it’s within anyone’s right to cancel their pre-orders if they aren’t satisfied with an aspect of a game. They may want to wait and rent it, or buy it used or on sale. I don’t see them hurting themselves. It’s their decision, their money. I think the more important question would be: Why do you care if they cancel their pre-orders?

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I decided not to buy Mass Effect 3 but not because of the4 "new features" but for Origin DRM system. I don't allow such a software to be present in my system nor I can support a company that practices such abusive practices even if I can crack or sandbox it.

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I think it'd be one thing to cancel a pre-order on a regular ME3. Why not wait until it's cheaper because you're getting the same content.

However, those people who are canceling their collectors edition? Really? Why? I mean hardcover art book costs $15+ alone. Not to mention the fact you're getting all the DLC, new squad member and mission (I don't know if they've changed that one recently), new equipment, alt. appearances, etc. It's a freakin deal to get the whole thing for 80 bucks. So if you're a huge ME fan..then yeah, you probably are going to regret making a rash decision and probably end up kicking yourself for liking multiplayer and NOT having ME3 Collector Edition.

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Why Give Up Your Pre-Orders? You Only Hurt Yourself.


I know you feel this

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 13 octobre 2011 - 09:44 .


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Me hurting myself? Haaaardly! I can buy something else with that money, why do you try to convince people to ''come back''? You're just wasting your time.

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I don't why people are pre-ordering now when the game isn't out for nearly five months. It's not like you get an advantage by ordering so early.

I'll probably place an order after Christmas or in February.

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If you're on the BSN threatening to have cancelled your pre-order, they're just **** talking. BSN consist of 1% of its fanbase, the craziest and obviously most loyal fans. If they're on the BSN, they're getting it. They just like to cry about it in the process in hopes of "reverting to the old ways", but you see that everywhere with everything. Change can be good, and this is a good change.

Edit: I don't blame you if ME3 is Origins exclusive for PC though. Great invasion of privacy isn't nice. Unless Origins changes, I'm sure they'll be losing a lot of PC customers. 

Modifié par SilentNukee, 13 octobre 2011 - 10:06 .


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People just love to be over-dramatic. Most of the people threatening to cancel their pre-order are just being that over-dramatic

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Origins is really the only issue, in my mind. The multiplayer, appears okay and seems to be kept seperate from the SP game or has limited involvement, so long as they don't arse things up entirely, it should be okay. But, the details are rather vague at the moment on how things will be implemented, too much so for condemnations and accusations equating to BioWare taking 30 pieces of silver to make sense.

I didn't pre order in the first place as I rarely pre order anything. Paticularly as I can pick up the DLC later, once the price of the base game drops, most of the time you can still pick up the limited edition copies at retailers even after the game goes on sale. Nor do I see some of the DLC as adding anything other than new gimicks, rather than something substantive, so I'm quite happy to wait and see how things develop, paticularly as it is estimated to cost £70. 

Modifié par billy the squid, 13 octobre 2011 - 10:36 .


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oh please it's the same as cod people say they won't buy it when the game comes out there the first in line.

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@OP

I totally agree with you, if you pre-ordered the game especially the CE you must like the game series more then the "average" player. It stands to reason that even if you threaten to cancel or do cancel your pre-order...your still going to buy ME3 day one or shortly after. So why cancel your pre-order? You miss out on some cool swag, besides last I checked the ME3 CE pre-order was nearly HALF of what other games in the genre are charging. So what they added a component to the game you didn't feel needed to be there, well...you don't have to utilize it. You can still get your core SP w/o touching MP. Cancelling your pre-order isn't going to massively affect the development team into reconsidering. There will be someone else who wants to pay for it. The game is still months away from being released, why make a knee-jerk reaction like this? Wait until Feb. then if you still don't like what you see then cancel it. By cancelling now, your just hurting yourself and throwing a temper tantrum like a 4 year old.

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Ahh, blast it, nevermind. I almost let Blue Moon Pumpkin Ale speak for me. Again. That's never a good thing. :lol:

Modifié par happy_daiz, 13 octobre 2011 - 10:10 .


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I completely agree with the op... too bad those who don't wont listen. It's cool though, we'll still have our N7 patches and robodogs.

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Amaterasuomikami wrote...

I don't why people are pre-ordering now when the game isn't out for nearly five months. It's not like you get an advantage by ordering so early.

I'll probably place an order after Christmas or in February.



Well if you want a collectors edition and you order late you might not get a collectors edition come release if they've only got a limited stock but there were more people who pre-ordered it before you. Thats why, plus if it goes up in price you get it the price you pre-ordered it for, but if the price goes down you pay less too.

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Uh. Because the decision on what to spend $80 on is ultimately theirs, and if the addition of one feature or another that they don't necessarily care for gives them cause for concern, that's up to them? I've not cancelled my pre-order. If others want to wait and see how the game turns out/more details are released/so on and so forth before considering whether to shell out the money, that's kind of their decision. They don't 'owe' Bioware their undying trust.

'Course, if they're of a mind to think 'well, screw this, I cannot purchase something that includes a feature I know nothing about, and never will', then yeah, I'd say they're being silly.

Modifié par bleetman, 13 octobre 2011 - 10:21 .


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*points at the order-cancellers in general*

THIS HURTS YOU.