Persephone wrote...
The point I was trying to make is that judging historical figures by attaching 2011 labels based on 2011 morals on them makes no sense. It's not what historians do. I haven't seen a single one call Elizabeth I. a slaver for example even though her coffers were filled by the slave trade going on at the time.
Mass murderer is not a 2011 label. Call it "Mass killer" if you want. As in responsable for the deaths of a large number of people. Caesar fits into that (in his case, hundreds of thousands of people), in a war fought for his own personal gains and with questionable benefit to Rome as a whole.
Of course no historian would say Elizabeth was a slaver, because everyone else was. Such a statement would have no pertinence at all. Doesn't make it any less factual that she profitted from slavery.
It's the moral judgement that people would attach to it that would make it unacademic. I do not make any moral judgement on it (or on executing Loghain and letting Anora watch it).
What I am seeing is that you think people who execute Loghain and are glad that Anora watches have questionable morality, but in your posts about Caesar, you never seem to care about his moral stand point (you never say his morality is very questionable). I don't care about either's, so I am being consistent. You seem outraged by the former and not the latter.
@ Bleach
I agree that Cailan is a personal failure of Loghain in large part and does make him look bad. It makes Maric look horible, but who can expect anything better from him.
The fact that Loghain kept Cailan around for that long and actually thought he might come to his senses till the last possible moment in Ostagar, is a point against him in my book. He allowed emotion to cloud reason in that instance.
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