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[Siansonea]

Everyone defines "man" differently, but part of that definition, perhaps the most important part to most men, is "not a woman".

Think about it. How do you really insult a man? You accuse him of being womanly. You call him a p*ssy. You tell him he's weak, emotional, or sensitive. You can't really insult a man by telling him he's too masculine. If you tell a man that he's beastly, a caveman, a brute, he'll probably laugh and agree with you, and secretly be flattered. With women, it's different. You can accuse a woman of being manly, but you can also insult her by telling her she's too womanly too. You can accuse her of being physically weak, too emotional, too sympathetic, etc., and it can be just as hurtful as being told that she's cold, unrefined, brusque, arrogant, etc., traits that are associated with masculinity.

Naturally these are generalizations, and they only really apply to people who cling desperately to gender as the axis of identity. A lot of people don't worry too much about what makes them a "man" or a "woman", so they're less vulnerable to being attacked on that basis.

[Volus Warlord]

Siansonea II wrote...

Everyone defines "man" differently, but part of that definition, perhaps the most important part to most men, is "not a woman".

Think about it. How do you really insult a man? You accuse him of being womanly. You call him a p*ssy. You tell him he's weak, emotional, or sensitive. You can't really insult a man by telling him he's too masculine. If you tell a man that he's beastly, a caveman, a brute, he'll probably laugh and agree with you, and secretly be flattered. With women, it's different. You can accuse a woman of being manly, but you can also insult her by telling her she's too womanly too. You can accuse her of being physically weak, too emotional, too sympathetic, etc., and it can be just as hurtful as being told that she's cold, unrefined, brusque, arrogant, etc., traits that are associated with masculinity.

Naturally these are generalizations, and they only really apply to people who cling desperately to gender as the axis of identity. A lot of people don't worry too much about what makes them a "man" or a "woman", so they're less vulnerable to being attacked on that basis.

Psh. Sorry, we have no time for anything that any amount of thought went into. TL:DR.

[NICKjnp]

[Volus Warlord]

NICKjnp wrote...

I supportz.

[Jenova65]

Hairy chest........
<<<<<<<<<<<<<Sucker for a hairy chest *stupid husband with his stupid lack of hair*

And this...........

 Perfect

That man was a legend in his own lycra (spandex to Americans) 

Modifié par Jenova65, 14 octobre 2011 - 07:11 .

[upsettingshorts]

Not giving a **** about whether or not you're manly is a start.

Also a mustache like my avatar helps.

[Carfax]

Testosterone provides the biological impetus for masculinity. Everything else is Cultural indoctrination, which differs according to where a particular man is from.

On another note, here is an interesting observation I've made concerning men and how they differ from women en masse, which some of you may agree or disagree with.

There is more variation in men from a moral standpoint, than in women. Men are very often, the best of the best, and the worst of the worst that humanity has to offer.

Hence the old sayings,"Good guys vs bad guys," and "When good men do nothing, evil triumphs."

[DarthCaine]

The ability to be in a constant rational mood through the whole month

Modifié par DarthCaine, 14 octobre 2011 - 07:35 .

[Fishy]

A big and loud Belch .. Your girlfriend stare at you while you're laughing .

Or silent farting and you wait for someone to notice the smell(with the manly smirk)

Forgetting what your partner asked you 10 minutes ago9Although you were not listening . Just saying Yeah ... Hmm Yeah ....Sure Yeah )

Snoring and waking up with your girlfriend sleeping on the couch..

Being alone to watch sport at t.v

Falling asleep during a romantic movie that your gf rented.

Renting RAMBO AGAIN

Growing up a beard and hearing complaint lol. Just to cut it back 2 week later HAHAHA . Always work!

Oh and finnaly  ... I was once a professional at making my bathroom a Pool. Im much better today.

Modifié par Suprez30, 14 octobre 2011 - 07:47 .

[bleetman]

Based on this thread, I'm apparently a woman. Who knew?

[jamesp81]

Carfax wrote...

Testosterone provides the biological impetus for masculinity. Everything else is Cultural indoctrination, which differs according to where a particular man is from.

On another note, here is an interesting observation I've made concerning men and how they differ from women en masse, which some of you may agree or disagree with.

There is more variation in men from a moral standpoint, than in women. Men are very often, the best of the best, and the worst of the worst that humanity has to offer.

Hence the old sayings,"Good guys vs bad guys," and "When good men do nothing, evil triumphs."

I agree with this.  Men, we don't tend to do things by halves.  If it's worth doing, it's worth doing it properly and to its fullest extent.

[KenKenpachi]

bleetman wrote...

Based on this thread, I'm apparently a woman. Who knew?

Well you do have a pink pony as an Avatar.

[Dragoonlordz]

bleetman wrote...

Based on this thread, I'm apparently a woman. Who knew?

...Everyone in this thread it would seem. 

[jamesp81]

I would also like bust a myth.

Men are not less emotional than women. There's even been a study that suggests it's the opposite, that men are extremely emotional. We tend to hide that a lot. I think that's partially cultural but partially evolutionary as well. Showing weakness in front of a potential predator is a good way to get eaten, so we're wired to not show it externally.

This is related to another quasi-myth: that men are driven by principles and women are driven by emotion. This doesn't tell the whole story. Men are largely driven by their principles, and those principles tend to shape their emotions. Women are kind of the opposite, in that their emotions tend to shape their principles.

That's obviously not true in all cases, I'm speaking in generalities here.

[Gterror]

 Old Spice

[Siansonea]

Well, one things for sure. Most of the people who claim to have an idea about what a man is, clearly have no idea what a woman is. And many don't seem to care to abolish their ignorance. That wouldn't be very manly, I guess.

[Siansonea]

bleetman wrote...

Based on this thread, I'm apparently a woman. Who knew?

Welcome to the club, girlfriend. 

[Jenova65]

DarthCaine wrote...

The ability to be in a constant rational mood through the whole month

Hahahahahahahaha......... you're joking, right? Guess I don't know any men then......... 

[ADLegend21]

this is a hilarious thread.

[Siansonea]

Jenova65 wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

The ability to be in a constant rational mood through the whole month

Hahahahahahahaha......... you're joking, right? Guess I don't know any men then......... 

Indeed. Most men (and women) I know can't remain rational for an entire day, much less a month. Pride, lust, insecurity, etc. tend to influence the thinking of all humans to some extent, and "rationality" is more often than not a subjective illusion. We are creatures for whom true rationality is a struggle, and a conscious choice has to be made to pursue it. Otherwise, it's just a pretty lie we tell ourselves. Rationality is often simply rationalization. We have to be aware of ourselves on a level that is not comfortable or instinctual in order to be truly rational, as objectivity requires a distance from one's own personal desires and prejudices.

But the original remark was just a misogynist joke, and not a particularly amusing one. But perhaps I'm being subjective. 

Modifié par Siansonea II, 14 octobre 2011 - 08:49 .

[jamesp81]

Siansonea II wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

The ability to be in a constant rational mood through the whole month

Hahahahahahahaha......... you're joking, right? Guess I don't know any men then......... 

Indeed. Most men (and women) I know can't remain rational for an entire day, much less a month. Pride, lust, insecurity, etc. tend to influence the thinking of all humans to some extent, and "rationality" is more often than not a subjective illusion. We are creatures for whom true rationality is a struggle, and a conscious choice has to be made to pursue it. Otherwise, it's just a pretty lie we tell ourselves. Rationality is often simply rationalization. We have to be aware of ourselves on a level that is not comfortable or instinctual in order to be truly rational, as objectivity requires a distance from one's own personal desires and prejudices.

But the original remark was just a misogynist joke, and not a particularly amusing one. But perhaps I'm being subjective. 

I don't think rationality is humanity's strong suit.

[Estelindis]

Courage, integrity and fortitude. It's not as if I think such qualities are unwomanly (far from it), but they're so much more important for living a good life and respecting yourself than many other qualities that people think vital to masculinity.

Also...

[Pordis Shepard]

Siansonea II wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...
The ability to be in a constant rational mood through the whole month

Hahahahahahahaha......... you're joking, right? Guess I don't know any men then......... 

Indeed. Most men (and women) I know can't remain rational for an entire day, much less a month. Pride, lust, insecurity, etc. tend to influence the thinking of all humans to some extent, and "rationality" is more often than not a subjective illusion. We are creatures for whom true rationality is a struggle, and a conscious choice has to be made to pursue it. Otherwise, it's just a pretty lie we tell ourselves. Rationality is often simply rationalization. We have to be aware of ourselves on a level that is not comfortable or instinctual in order to be truly rational, as objectivity requires a distance from one's own personal desires and prejudices.

But the original remark was just a misogynist joke, and not a particularly amusing one. But perhaps I'm being subjective. 

It reminds me of the Robert Heinlein quote:

“Once a month, some women act like men act all the time.” ― Robert A. Heinlein

But my own answer would be either: 

• Based on biology:  a broken X-chromosome
• Based on behaviour:  leaving behind the adolescent reactions and behaviours to become an adult who is a contributing member of society.