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Does anyone else really hate Tallis?


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I'm not a fan, but I don't hate her. She's the queen of the Mary-Sues though. How many self-inserting Mary Sue fanfic writers actually get their character put into the real game/book/show? As far as I know she is the only one.

She's still better than Diana Allers :D

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Am debating whether to get a copy of Dragon Age Redemption to get FD to sign when I'm at Fedcon in May....they never did release MotA in physical form did they? DL only? Shame as I'd rather she signed that...

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Nefla wrote...

I'm not a fan, but I don't hate her. She's the queen of the Mary-Sues though. How many self-inserting Mary Sue fanfic writers actually get their character put into the real game/book/show? As far as I know she is the only one.

She's still better than Diana Allers :D


Bolded for truth. I didn't hate Tallis, but I didn't especially like her either.

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Tallis belongs in fan fiction, not in the actual DA universe

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My DVD copy of Redemption arrived today. Sqweeeee!! Am going to sit down tonight and watch with boyfriend (who has NEVER played DA). Mwahahaha!!

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I love Felicia Day, honestly. The character of Tallis... I assumed you were supposed to be wary of her. She wasn't exactly honest with Hawke. But I guess I kind of liked her in the end. I would (in real life) hang out with someone like Tallis (or Felicia - since Tallis' behavior was essentially modeled after the actress' own nuances...)

We (hot) nerdy girls have to stick together.

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I wonder if we don't do Mark of the Assassin, does Tallis dies and the Orlesians get the scroll.

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Nanuzsh wrote...

I wonder if we don't do Mark of the Assassin, does Tallis dies and the Orlesians get the scroll.

We can only hope so

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Tryynity wrote...

Of course all the ppl that feel the need to criticise other peoples efforts are so very qualified because of all the wonderful creations they have out there on the worldwide web for evey one to admire their brilliance...

Post a link - Id love to watch your webseries or read something you have written
 
- that'd be awesome if you would pls


I agree that if one is to criticize any accomplishment,artistic or otherwise,it must be done civilly.

Art however, is,by nature,very much open to criticism. Are you suggesting we all become writers / painters / actors /game developers / poets  / architects, etc. ,just to be able to have an opinion,a subjective view on any given work of art?

Different strokes for different folks,but as long as the opinion is articulated in a civilized manner,not resorting to ad hominems,it should be fine. Thats my opinion,anyway.For what it`s worth.<_<

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I thought Tallis was fine. My unease of her character was only because she is a qunari and that she was not upfront with me. But that is part of the design. And Day was a good voice actress.

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I don't like Tallis much, or the fact that she succeeds and you can't kill her.

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I don't hate her, I just don't believe they should have dedicated an entire DLC to this random lore-murdering character.
I would have liked it better if she were more like Larius showed up occasionally to make sure we remember whatever our goal is not locked in your party for entire duration of the quest. She's with you the entire DLC. It also would have been better...if she were marginally entertaining.

What I hate the most is that the ending is always the same. No matter what you choose to do in the cave you always end up at the cliff-side (what?), you always end up killing Duke Prosper, and you always let her get away. I wouldn't kill her but...I don't understand why that's not an option. Considering that you can kill off some of the main companions (not sure about Aveline), and even Larius. Why not her?

Modifié par Alexandrine Delassixe, 06 juin 2012 - 12:28 .


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^^ She's speshul. That's my big complaint about her. You can slap down every character in the game... except Tallis.

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she is not a mary sue for the sheer fact she being in Dragon Age.

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DeathScepter wrote...

she is not a mary sue for the sheer fact she being in Dragon Age.


That does not make sense. Try again.

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I am not understanding all the Tallis hate, and why she is being called a "lore murderer". I thouroughly enjoyed the character of Tallis, it was quite different and refreshing.

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I couldn't stand Tallis. But seriously I've never seen such a waste of space as Allers. At least she wasn't that.

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If you disliked Allers, she is basically ignorable after a 15 sec cutscene. I had no problem with her.

Tallis is ... Felicia Day, quite literally. She's quirky, geeky, and crazy wierd but lovable.

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She's a female Qunari who fights. That sums up the "lore-murdering" arguments, since Sten went on and on about how women don't fight in DAO. Never mind that she's not a solider, but an assassin; apparently the qunari, who stress utility above all else, should be incapable of seeing the advantages of employing converts to the Qun as spies. It's not like they should be able to blend into a crowd.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 10 juin 2012 - 05:55 .


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That's EXACTLY the problem with Allers.

And not if you're scraping for resources because you don't play MP.

I didn't find her loveable. Just irritating. Far too much showboating for someone who does that regretful act for killing the guard.
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Did not really mind her story as it was fun playing.I did not like the fact that your hands are tied at the end plot wise and she walks off with the papers.

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thats1evildude wrote...

She's a female Qunari who fights. That sums up the "lore-murdering" arguments, since Sten went on and on about how women don't fight in DAO. Never mind that she's not a solider, but an assassin; apparently the qunari, who stress utility above all else, should be incapable of seeing the advantages of employing converts to the Qun as spies. It's not like they should be able to blend into a crowd.


If I'm not mistaken, that was expalined within the DLC itself in that she was a member of the Ben Hasaad of whatever it was called.

And Sten never even mentioned that Qunari could be anything other than Kossith, so it might not have applied. We still only know a lil portion of everything about the Qun.

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Nah I don't hate her, but I wouldn't want her as a companion in DA3 simply because I kinda feel like what with her appearance in MotA and her Dragon Age web series, for me personally it would be like she was being shoved down my throat (David Gaider suggested that a lot of women would feel differently if Tallis was male, which is untrue, I'd feel the same regardless of Tallis' gender.) To be honest I could think of other past NPC's I would much prefer in my party. Better yet give us a brand new female for us to get to know from scratch.

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Wait seriously?

*le sigh* I really hate the "It's because she's female" arguement. Actually...she'd probably bother me more as a male because then there's a good chance of them being a sexist douche in addition to everything else. Yay.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 11 juin 2012 - 12:40 .


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thats1evildude wrote...

She's a female Qunari who fights. That sums up the "lore-murdering" arguments, since Sten went on and on about how women don't fight in DAO. Never mind that she's not a solider, but an assassin; apparently the qunari, who stress utility above all else, should be incapable of seeing the advantages of employing converts to the Qun as spies. It's not like they should be able to blend into a crowd.


First, Sten's argument about women fighting was about women whose sole purpose in life is to fight. Gaider has said many, many months before DAII was released that Sten -- and by extension, all Qunari -- would view the Grey Wardens as an army. So a woman being part of the Grey Wardens would mean that she is trying to be a part of an army, whose sole purpose in life is to fight the Darkspawn.

Tallis fights, but it does not define her role. She is not part of the army -- the Antaam -- and therefore, she is still a woman under the Qun.

No lore was broken.

Secondly, the Qunari do employ converts -- especially Elven converts -- as spies in Thedas. There's a codex entry about Qunari in Thedas talking specifically about that. And Tallis also talks about the contents of the scroll listing Qunari agents -- and former agents -- throughout Thedas.

In retrospect, I'm not sure if your post is saying that's what other people say about it breaking the lore and you don't agree with it or if it's you personally that is saying Tallis is breaking the lore. Image IPB

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 11 juin 2012 - 03:46 .