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[Sarielle]

Hehe, yeah, you could be right. So many games have things that mods make SO much better. Well, let me do a final roundup of what my list looks like, see if you guys have any final words of wisdom. (Probably, "Your list is too long!" lol) I have not checked compatibility extensively, but I will certainly go over the readme's carefully before actually installing anything.

BGT -- I read up on both and I decided I liked the continuity you got from this over Easy Tutu better.

BG1 NPC project More banter, yay!

BG2 Fixpack (I assume this is the best one?)

BG2 Tweakpack For a couple of things like bags of holding and stacking more ammo. Will ignore most of it.

Widescreen mod For obvious reasons.

Fixed Sewer Lighting It says it's also compatible with BGT.

the Bigg House for the "Drop Weapons in Panic" removal to potentially eliminate massive amounts of nerdrage (I'm not always that observant).

Moinesse's Avatars Long hair, yay!

1PP v2 (Assuming it's compatible with Moinesse's Avatars)

Ascension Read enough to realize it introduces some non-combat resolution options...sounds great. Plus it's Gaider.

Unfinished Business 1 and 2. Restored content!

Ultimate Portrait Pack More choices is a good thing!


and POSSIBLY:

Infinity Animations. Cooler animations are...well...cool, but I want to see the originals before I decide.

[Humanoid_Taifun]

To my knowledge, this is all compatible (used it all before, except for the Sewer Lighting) - but kick Ascension out. Otherwise you will probably not make the final battle. That kind of thing can be frustrating.

Edit: You can use the Wheels of Prophecy mod to alter ToB a bit.

Modifié par Humanoid_Taifun, 17 octobre 2011 - 11:06 .

[Sarielle]

Hmm, would it still be harder if I don't "toughen" the mobs? I have been trying to skim to avoid spoilers but a lot of the "Tougher So-And-So" says optional beside it. I was going to skip those.

lol

If you say it'll still probably be out of my skill range, though, I'll take your word on it.


EDIT: And how does this aTweaks stack up to the tweakpack I'd listed up there? Finished the FAQ, it looks like aTweaks suggests using the BG2 Fixpack but says nothing about that other Tweakpack.

Modifié par Sarielle, 18 octobre 2011 - 12:54 .

[Grond0]

atweaks offers some additional tweaks to those provided by BG2 tweaks - they are compatible. One other thing you might be interested in is BGT Tweaks. This offers yet more tweaks, though as said before I suggest you minimise installing those that affect gameplay in your initial installation (so that you can assess what aspects of the game you like and dislike). The component I thought might be of interest to you is to allow more BG1 NPCs to go forward to BG2 - the vanilla game has some NPCs available in both, but most do not transfer.

[Dante2377]

I would also recommend against Ascension your first couple times through. One because you probably wont want the final battle that hard and two because you want to run through a few times without a lot of content changes.

In the BG Tweaks, I'd recommend these options for enhanced gameplay without messing with the rules from the vanilla game:
G2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #130 // Force All Dialogue to Pause Game: v9
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1020 // Alter HP Triggers for NPC Wounded Dialogues: v9
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3060 // Remove "You Must Gather Your Party..." Sound (Weimer): v9
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3150 // Turn Off The Hideous Cloak-of-Mirroring, Spell-Trap, and Physical Mirror Animations: v9
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3170 // No Drow Avatars On Party In Underdark: v9

the first two will help avoid unexpected game issues, the animation and sound options are for avoiding irritations (most players find that sound and the animations to be highly annoying), and the no drow avatars helps avoid a lot of bugs in a certain area. I know that was kind of spoilerish, but if it were me, I'd rather have had that option set and know that tiny detail than get caught in a bug rendering the game/an NPC unplayable (plus if you're looking through the readme you'll see it anyway).

other than that your list looks like a good way to experience the "vanilla" game.

Modifié par Dante2377, 18 octobre 2011 - 06:10 .

[Humanoid_Taifun]

Sarielle wrote...

Hmm, would it still be harder if I don't "toughen" the mobs? I have been trying to skim to avoid spoilers but a lot of the "Tougher So-And-So" says optional beside it. I was going to skip those.

The final battle is not optional. With Ascension installed the previous 5 enemy bosses are resurrected and added to the enemy.
I knew the game when I ran into that the first time and I still gave up.

And how does this aTweaks stack up to the tweakpack I'd listed up there? Finished the FAQ, it looks like aTweaks suggests using the BG2 Fixpack but says nothing about that other Tweakpack.

Compatible.
By the way, take a look at this pdf. (don't read it all) It says it's Big World Project, but it also offers a rather extensive list of mods + order of installation (and compability).
The only error I could find was that they want to install certain parts of Rogue Rebalancing after aTweaks (which the creator warns against). Even so, it's an easy and relatively safe way of creating your installation order.

[Sarielle]

@Grondo: Ooh, yeah, I would definitely like that

@Dante: Annoyance removal is good, lol. I remember one soundset you could choose for your PC in DA:O that made me want to throw my monitor after it repeated a few times.

@Humanoid: Oh, dang. Yeah...maybe I will pass on that after all, LOL. Thanks for the heads up.

[Sarielle]

I return with a new question. Party scripts!

The default AI seems a little derpy, so I was looking into downloading some scripts to make party members feel like less of a drag and more of a help. I'm assuming I want BG2 scripts because, while playing BG1, I am using BGT.

Here are a couple I found. Opinions?

eSeries
BPseries
a few miscellaneous here, hard to judge


...and not party-related directly, but gMinion looks really nice for summons.

[polytope]

Sarielle wrote...
a few miscellaneous here, hard to judge

A lot of mods at Sorcerer's place are non-weidu and need to be installed first because they overwrite things.

SCS (G3 site's down at the moment, hopefully not for long) has a prep script for casters to precast most of their long duration buffs, which are somewhat tedious to renew one by one.

I wouldn't trust any script for use in actual combat though, as the computer can't prioritize things as well as a human player.

[Sarielle]

I don't mind pausing and micromanaging when necessary, but right now "necessary" seems to be "all the time," lol. Thanks for the tips about Sorcerer's Place...I don't have SCS installed actually, my first playthrough and I don't want to make it extra hard on myself.

I take it you haven't used those other scripts?

[polytope]

Sarielle wrote...

I don't mind pausing and micromanaging when necessary, but right now "necessary" seems to be "all the time," lol. Thanks for the tips about Sorcerer's Place...I don't have SCS installed actually, my first playthrough and I don't want to make it extra hard on myself.

I take it you haven't used those other scripts?

I have heard good things of gMinion (it was always annoying that fire elementals turn hostile from fireballs), Spell Revisions summons behave much the same way, but the changes are more radical.

I have tried and can recommend "Smarter Nymphs" from Tactics, probably the only component of Tactics you'll want to use for now, makes summoned Nymphs more useful.

The nice thing about SCS is that it's modular, you can install only the ease-of-use AI and the bugfixes for dispel magic/mirror image if you want... Except that the most recent versions package ToBEx which is currently in beta testing and has some bugs, v15 is the latest without ToBEx I believe.

Modifié par polytope, 26 octobre 2011 - 12:47 .

[Sarielle]

Oooooh, I did not realize you could do a very minimalist install. Well, dang. If I can't get any feedback on these others, I might have to look into that. Something tells me I'd need to install SCS II earlier on, though...

...Oh well, at least I have clean backups on my portable harddrive.

[Gorthaur X]

I have to disagree with HT on Ascension: it is hard, but it's hard in a good way, and the improvements to the endgame are well worth it from a dramatic, as well as gameplay, perspective. Personally, I would suggest going with Ascension and, if necessary, just lowering the difficulty in the final battle.

If you decide to install it, you do want at least the "Smarter Yaga-Shura component from SCSII, which fixes a certain ridiculously annoying bug.