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[TEWR]

Wouldn't that be the Paragon Xanthos, of House Xanthos?

I believe it takes their last name and not their first name.

[DPSSOC]

blothulfur wrote...

So you are saying that he is a rootless drifting vagabond who builds nothing and owes no allegiance to anybody. Yes that is the impression I recieved, probably to avoid the past scenes of his slaughters.

He owes allegiance to those he chooses to give it to.  Not some king he's never met or a bit of land he just happens to be standing on.

[Big I]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Wouldn't that be the Paragon Xanthos, of House Xanthos?

I believe it takes their last name and not their first name.

The Paragon Aeducan founded House Aeducan, and Oghren became a member of House Branka when she was raised to Paragon.

[TEWR]

LookingGlass93 wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Wouldn't that be the Paragon Xanthos, of House Xanthos?

I believe it takes their last name and not their first name.

The Paragon Aeducan founded House Aeducan, and Oghren became a member of House Branka when she was raised to Paragon.

The house is actually House Kondrat IIRC. I believe Branka and Oghren were married before she became a Paragon, and it's normal for a wife to take on the last name of the man she married and Oghren's last name is Kondrat.

[Herr Uhl]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

The house is actually House Kondrat IIRC. I believe Branka and Oghren were married before she became a Paragon, and it's normal for a wife to take on the last name of the man she married and Oghren's last name is Kondrat.

Kondrat was Oghren's old house. Hence his name. Branka founded a noble house after becoming paragon, and that house absorbed the Kondrat family.

And they keep their own names, and pass them down to the children of the parents genders family name and caste IIRC.

[TEWR]

Ah wait that's right. Noble House Tethras was founded when a dwarf took that name as his first name and became a Paragon in his own right.

[TobiTobsen]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

LookingGlass93 wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Wouldn't that be the Paragon Xanthos, of House Xanthos?

I believe it takes their last name and not their first name.

The Paragon Aeducan founded House Aeducan, and Oghren became a member of House Branka when she was raised to Paragon.

The house is actually House Kondrat IIRC. I believe Branka and Oghren were married before she became a Paragon, and it's normal for a wife to take on the last name of the man she married and Oghren's last name is Kondrat.

The Name of the Paragon and the name of their House always matches, as far as I can tell. It's Paragon Aeducan and House Aeducan. Paragon Helmi and House Helmi and so forth. In my opinion the person you've quoted is correct. They take their first names, abandon the last one and start a new House with their first name as its name.

Since Branka is called Paragon Branka, I'm pretty sure it was House Branka. So it should be indeed Paragon Xanthos, of House Xanthos .

[TEWR]

Hmm.... okay.

Let's hope Mardy has a big family.

[KJandrew]

DPSSOC wrote...

Another possible tactic; send Fereldan after them. Fereldans have brushed off far worse than the Qunari. They bested the Imperium at it's height,

You mean they did rather well against a Tevinter that had just spent the last 192 years fighting the darkspawn.

defeated a Blight in under a year with no outside help

Do the Dwarves, Dalish and Werewolves not count as outside help?

[Wulfram]

KJandrew wrote...

You mean they did rather well against a Tevinter that had just spent the last 192 years fighting the darkspawn.

And had Shartan leading a the elves in rebellion, of course

[CrimsonZephyr]

Ferelden is also the land of player characters.

The only way the Qunari will ever take Ferelden is if the player character is a Qunari.

[Wulfram]

The obvious way to defeat the Qunari is through simple attrition. In fundamental terms, if your human soldiers die then all you have to do is round up some more peasants, give them spears and send them back into the fight. Whereas a Qunari farmer can never be turned into a warrior. All they can do to react to taking losses is to turn more of the segment of their population which is currently turning 12 into warriors.

Of course, this doesn't seem to have worked particularly well the last time. Though perhaps the Qunari were in fact on the verge of cracking before the Llomerryn Accords?

[TheJediSaint]

CrimsonZephyr wrote...

Ferelden is also the land of player characters.

The only way the Qunari will ever take Ferelden is if the player character is a Qunari.

Yeah, player characters have an annoying tendency to shift the balance of power. 

[Huntress]

naledgeborn wrote...

What the title says. In the state that Thedas is in as of 9:40 Dragon what will need to be done to succesfully pushback the impending Qunari invasion?

1)All mages of thedas
2)by the coast
3)shooting fire bolts to the ships..
problem solve! Do they swim? then lightining bolts!:lol:

[KJandrew]

Wulfram wrote...
Of course, this doesn't seem to have worked particularly well the last time. Though perhaps the Qunari were in fact on the verge of cracking before the Llomerryn Accords?

Well wasn't the person who said that the Qunari only agreed to a truce due to the chantry massacre of Rivani on the Chantry's side? If so i'd say the Qunari weren't near to cracking, as a chantry alienged person would probably take an oppurtunity to say that it was human might that won.

[DrFumb1ezX]

Huntress wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

What the title says. In the state that Thedas is in as of 9:40 Dragon what will need to be done to succesfully pushback the impending Qunari invasion?

1)All mages of thedas
2)by the coast
3)shooting fire bolts to the ships..
problem solve! Do they swim? then lightining bolts!:lol:

It's not really a question of whether or not they can swim, but whether or not they can drown...

[Wulfram]

KJandrew wrote...

Well wasn't the person who said that the Qunari only agreed to a truce due to the chantry massacre of Rivani on the Chantry's side? If so i'd say the Qunari weren't near to cracking, as a chantry alienged person would probably take an oppurtunity to say that it was human might that won.

The Qunari are probably pretty good at bluffing,  I doubt the Chantry were getting much intel.

And the fact that the fighting was taking place in Rivain, with the Qunari expelled from the rest of the continent, makes it pretty clear that the war wasn't going their way

[KJandrew]

Wulfram wrote...

KJandrew wrote...

Well wasn't the person who said that the Qunari only agreed to a truce due to the chantry massacre of Rivani on the Chantry's side? If so i'd say the Qunari weren't near to cracking, as a chantry alienged person would probably take an oppurtunity to say that it was human might that won.

The Qunari are probably pretty good at bluffing,  I doubt the Chantry were getting much intel.

And the fact that the fighting was taking place in Rivain, with the Qunari expelled from the rest of the continent, makes it pretty clear that the war wasn't going their way

Yeah, suppose so.
On a side note: Am i the only one who thinks that pushing the Qunari too far back would be a very bad idea. When you're fighting on the continent and in pitched battles you're only against Qunari soldiers. However if you reach their home territory then you've not only got soldiers but you have to fight all the other castes, who according to Sten are all perfectly able to defend themselves rather well. 

[blothulfur]

This is true, unlike the bas all will fight for our home and if the people are threatened with the evil of the slave kingdoms then we shall no longer speak of spreading the Qun and enlightening the bas for they will have proven themselves enemies of the people. We shall engage in total war with all of the weapons at our disposal.

[naledgeborn]

Well, pushing them out of Thedas and invading Qunandar (Qunari homeland?) are two totally different things. That's the difference between defense and conquest.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Well the Qunari were said to be in retreat for a long time before the Llomerryn Accords but Sister Petrine seems to base her belief that the Qunari withdrew because of the massacres of the Rivaini on the fact that the peace treaty came directly after the Chantry forces made a point of wiping out Kont'aar's human inhabitants instead of the Qunari soldiers. That Codex entry also points out that the human nations were strained to the point where they felt they needed to rebuild more than liberate Rivain, so I suspect actually trying to take the fight to the Qunari on their own ground would not have been as easy..

[DPSSOC]

KJandrew wrote...

DPSSOC wrote...
Another possible tactic; send Fereldan after them. Fereldans have brushed off far worse than the Qunari. They bested the Imperium at it's height,

You mean they did rather well against a Tevinter that had just spent the last 192 years fighting the darkspawn.

Details, details, lol.  Ok I will give you that one.

KJandrew wrote...

defeated a Blight in under a year with no outside help

Do the Dwarves, Dalish and Werewolves not count as outside help?

Seeing as it was not necessary to leave Fereldan to get them; no, no they do not.  Besides the Dalish barely count period (they're just elves after all) and the werewolves are cursed natives (either by birth or infection).  The only one that could be considered outside help are the Dwarves but for all their claims of sovereignty and royalty they are a single city within/under Fereldan.  No different than if Toronto decided to call their mayor King.

[Anvos]

blothulfur wrote...

This is true, unlike the bas all will fight for our home and if the people are threatened with the evil of the slave kingdoms then we shall no longer speak of spreading the Qun and enlightening the bas for they will have proven themselves enemies of the people. We shall engage in total war with all of the weapons at our disposal.

I doubt your Qun offers much protection for those you've brainwashed and druged into servitude from the power of the blood magic of a magister.

Modifié par Anvos, 18 octobre 2011 - 07:21 .

[jamesp81]

Speaking more tactically to this problem....

One has to choose his battlegrounds wisely. Qunari have an advantage in that they have more sophisticated weapons, especially artillery. You have to be willing to surrender territory where those weapons are easily used, mainly open ground.

Don't try to fight them on the plains. Make the hornheads slog their way through the Anderfels against entrenched defenders. Break their armies against that fortress, and then attack when they're weak.

And use blood magic and demon summoning. Yeah, I know how bad that is. Still, if you can release a few hundred abominations on Par Vollen, that's likely to take a lot of the wind out of their sails right then. When Par Vollen has been reduced to a smoking crater, you can send an army of templars and mages in later to clean up the mess.