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#151
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I have no need to seize power, but the Chantry's control of the Circle is intolerable. Turning the Circle into a sovereign organization, but one without official power over nonmages, would be sufficient.

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Surely you realize such a dream is unrealistic.

Non-mages will always feel threatened by mages (rightly so) and mages (when able to) will take advantage of their abilities and seek power over others.

Equality and harmony between the two can never exist.

Modifié par GodWood, 19 octobre 2011 - 01:52 .


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Xilizhra wrote...

I have no need to seize power, but the Chantry's control of the Circle is intolerable. Turning the Circle into a sovereign organization, but one without official power over nonmages, would be sufficient.


A sovereign institution that has all the mages of Thedas outside of Par Vollen and Tevinter would inevitably have power. Even if it is unofficial.

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Other lands have ways of dealing with this dichotomy that don't force oppression on people.

A sovereign institution that has all the mages of Thedas outside of Par Vollen and Tevinter would inevitably have power. Even if it is unofficial.

I admit, I'd rather like to liberate Par Vollen as well. Tevinter would be nice, but it seems undefeatable.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 19 octobre 2011 - 02:18 .


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Xilizhra wrote...

A sovereign institution that has all the mages of Thedas outside of Par Vollen and Tevinter would inevitably have power. Even if it is unofficial.

I admit, I'd rather like to liberate Par Vollen as well. Tevinter would be nice, but it seems undefeatable.


An island-based people that only got weak after overextending themselves or Tevinter. I'd wager it'd be easier to take Tevinter.

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CrimsonZephyr wrote...

(paraphrase) A bunch of silly trolling points of view that involve extreme and uncontrolled violence


This is why I still check in daily - for the giggles.

"Demons aren't intelligent enough to figure out watercraft."  That's right - they'd NEVER figure out how to get off the island.  Demons are known for being idiots - especially Pride and Desire demons.  And when these demons possess some people . . . they'll be doubly too stupid.

And yes - annhiliation of any possible threat is the only path to peace.  First kill all the Qunari.  Then kill everyone in Orlais and Tevinter.  Then kill everyone in every bannorn except yours because they might rebel.  Then kill everyone in your own bannorn because they might see you as a tyrant and attack you . . . or just because some of them might try to harm you whilst robbing you.  Then, finally, when everyone else is dead, kill yourself because your own body poses the threat of heart attack, stroke, infection, etc.

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Hanz54321 wrote...

CrimsonZephyr wrote...

(paraphrase) A bunch of silly trolling points of view that involve extreme and uncontrolled violence


This is why I still check in daily - for the giggles.

"Demons aren't intelligent enough to figure out watercraft."  That's right - they'd NEVER figure out how to get off the island.  Demons are known for being idiots - especially Pride and Desire demons.  And when these demons possess some people . . . they'll be doubly too stupid.

And yes - annhiliation of any possible threat is the only path to peace.  First kill all the Qunari.  Then kill everyone in Orlais and Tevinter.  Then kill everyone in every bannorn except yours because they might rebel.  Then kill everyone in your own bannorn because they might see you as a tyrant and attack you . . . or just because some of them might try to harm you whilst robbing you.  Then, finally, when everyone else is dead, kill yourself because your own body poses the threat of heart attack, stroke, infection, etc.


Oh, that's right, I forgot - rage demons only, if possible. They are unintelligent shock troops.

Also, researching how Anders made his Chantry-buster is a must, as is finding a way to scale it up, with the goal being destroying Qunandar in a single blast.

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CrimsonZephyr wrote...

Oh, that's right, I forgot - rage demons only, if possible. They are unintelligent shock troops.

Also, researching how Anders made his Chantry-buster is a must, as is finding a way to scale it up, with the goal being destroying Qunandar in a single blast.


YES!

The Kirkwall (Manhattan) Project!

Should somehow train a High Dragon to carry the device and drop it onto the city.  We could even paint names on the dragon and the explosive device!

Nuke them from orbit - it's the only way to be sure!  Image IPB

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LookingGlass93 wrote...

Am I the only one disturbed that people are suggesting the mass slaughter of Qunari civilians using darkspawn, demons, monsters and biological warfare?


Probably not, but in defense of said tactics it's merely acknowledgement that any war with the Qunari must be one of anihilation, theirs or ours.  The Qunari are dead set on spreading the Qun one way or another.  This insistence leads me to believe that it is in fact a demand of the Qun (much like the Chantry spreading the Chant of Light).  Anything short of the complete anihilation of the Qunari will simply result in a pause, a brief lapse until they have the numbers to try again.  Now this could be ideological anihilation (convert all Qunari to some other school of thought) or physical anihilation which is the focus because it's much easier to come up with tactics in that regard.

Again this is under the assumption that spreading their philosophy is a demand of the Qun and as such is non-negotiable.

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You don't. The cost in lives would be too high to carry a war to their home turf and exterminate them. Their continued existence gives the rest of Thedas a common enemy beside the darkspawn and provide a rather nice distraction for the Tevinters. Say you do manage to raise the Exalted March and somehow destroy the Qunari without losing more men than most the nations can afford then arguments are bound to arise. Who gets the reclaimed land? Tevinters? Fog People? Fex? Rivani? The other crusading nations will want something for their part in it and probably leads to increased tension between nations over who gets what. And the after that you have the Imperium, still one of the strongest nations out there now out of their perpetual war. How long until they set their sights on something else? Keeping the Qunari where they are and pooling together to push them back when the horn heads invade is the best solution.

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CrimsonZephyr wrote...

Considering how Orlais is looking to reclaim Ferelden, killing every Orlesian isn't a bad idea.


Then do you support the dalish exterminating humanity? By that the way of thinking elves will never have peace until humans are all gone.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 23 octobre 2011 - 12:32 .


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CrimsonZephyr wrote...

Considering how Orlais is looking to reclaim Ferelden, killing every Orlesian isn't a bad idea.


Then do you supportint he dalish exterminating humanity? By that the elves will never have peace until humans are all gone.


He does.  We've established that nuking everyone tht isn't "me" is the only way to peace.

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Well I guess trying to figure out what destroyed the Quanri Homeland across the sea or finding out what happened to it would be a good place to start in finding a weakness in the Qunari or atleast give us a better understanding of the enemy.

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With a big stick.

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Nothing. Corypheus will rule them all.

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Magic possibly. Maybe if the Chantry could be dissolved and mages could combat the Qunari then they could be repelled, although having mages be free could lead to a lot of problems down the track, its a very complicated matter though.

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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

CrimsonZephyr wrote...

Considering how Orlais is looking to reclaim Ferelden, killing every Orlesian isn't a bad idea.


Then do you support the dalish exterminating humanity? By that the way of thinking elves will never have peace until humans are all gone.


Considering what a minority elves are, they'd probably get themselves killed trying.

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But if they could, should they?