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[Louisdeer]

I Demand A Real Ending toward My Cause of the Damned Wall after surferring so long.And see into the end of Mykul Personaly.

After some reading I found there are four endings only. Sadly None of those contain an ending to bring down the damned wall.

Kelemvor dodged all my question about the wall. He offered his own opinion. Yet, not strong enough at all as a God.<_<

I will explain why would i think so after i introduce my own experience, because by seeing my character, it makes my ending more reasonable.

Ok i was the captain of crossroad:police:. Then rocks fell and everyone died during the my last battle against king of shadow.

Fine. I will get over it. It is D&D. I rolled badly.

Now, some Red Wizards took me because I hold the sword of Gith.

There comes the fates that i can not escape:

I am actually an epic Fighter/Divine Champion/Rogue who mastered Halbred. I almost dont use sword of Gith at all. However, that damned sword piece was in my chest. Therefore, i was tied to a weapon only brought trouble but not redemption or else. In anotherword, I tried to escape from such a fate by any option avaliable in the game.

Come back to story line,

I woke up in the barrow, and founnd all my gold and items are gone. This situation is bearable because it is better than "rocks fell everyone died". A fresh start.....wait...where is my Halberd? > A Weapon is everything to a fighter.
I am so glad that i didnt choose to become a Weapon master. OR I will cry.

Eitherway,
I travel with the red wizard. And when i learnt that the sword finally gone. That is GREAT!!!I was told i couldnt remove the piece in my chest....but it was good to learn that the sword is gone.

I thought even my soul has some flaws due to the missing blade. It is still much more free than before.

Soon, i found the things are more complicated. Akachi started a great action against his god....and didnt end well. And the hunger was not mine. The hunger was Akachi's.

While all NPCs else is worry about the hunger will doom me and the land. I was actually cool with that. It is Much better than the sword of gith. Therefore, I jumped out the game setup to player of being a victim of the hunger.

Times past, i learnt more from Dove. And there is my feeling.

I couldnt care less about my own soul. I should be dead long ago against the King of Shadow. However, the Wall of wailing souls is a alternative deal from a lazy god. "Come on just send everyone into the hell, trade their souls with demons..." Great Job! Gods of the Death. Yes, include Kelevmor, though he is much better than other Sons of *****...

I hadn't really thought about Akachi, the main conflict in the game, before I meet the woodman and Mykul. Akachi's action caused his curse.

However, the two events of woodman and Mykul changed my heart totally.

Mykul
I meet Mykul first. And I clearly know he is bluffing after the conversation. He appeared a suspected care toward this curse that no longer will cause any direct consequence on him. However, that is the least i care. I just need information. Mykul told every truth, confirmed, though, I thought his solusion is a clear trap.

I wanted Mykul to die for his curse. I tended to consume him. However Dove warned me about the risk. Too bad, I DIDNT ENCOUNTER THE SKILL OF "ETERNAL REST" !!!!! (Well i left the wierd priest stand because i fail to see his surferring. I didnt took side with the souls in the oven neither, because the priest told me how many evils there are. I distrusted the boy, simply because I noticed the intellegent in the boy. I smelled fishy.)

And therefore, I have to left Mykul stay unpunished. I need to start the crusade first.

This make me cleared my thought, Mykul successfully convinced me that the wall is a evil joke and must be brought down for being injustice and unpractical. More specifically because I believe in:

1. innocent souls should have a good afterlife if there is one. (For Dove, Gann)
2. fears doesnt enhance faith. (For Mykul, Kelevmor and all other Gods)
3. Mykul nicely trapped many whoever are similar to Akachi. (For Akachi and myself)

And now i see the problem of Akachi's Curse. My final Conclusion is:

Akachi never had a choice. Mykul planed the curse of Akachi. Mykul let the stupid Akachi to free his love and make Akachi the example of against God by using the Power of the wall. My fate is involved half way. I would become next example planed by Gods. Therefore, I shall bring a final judgement on Mykul if i ever lived in that game. However, I need bring down the wall first to undo a intended mistake of gods. That will make me escape my fate.

Woodman

I never encounter woodman until Mykul told me to give a F*** in dead city. I was notified this part was an extra.

Why i didnt? Because those witches dont truly want to help me. Therefore, I wouldnt know if there is a trap left there. However, after a while of trip. I understand in this Whole game, nothing can be worse than Akachi's curse. Thats Final.

And I went to the woods, did a lot things.

And I am betrayed by the witch. NO SURPRISE!! I saw that coming and i refused to help that mad witch. A witch accuse another and refuse to report back to the city. HAHA. Nice Try. However I have to slay all berserks. At least the oldest witch is still with me, alive.

And i chase into the woods, and i was....betrayed by the forst.

This is the part that truly make me want to end the curse.

I now saw how bad this curse could be. I heard it from Okku's clan story. However this forest served a living example. Whole land becomes lifeless, fury.
The hunger was a threat, but i failed to see how bad it is. It was still a mortal conflict to me.

However, after the woodman showed me the damage, I realized the curse could make me another King of the Shadow. (After i read about the evil path, EXACTLY like what i expected.)

Therefore, i went to the city of the dead and tempted to break the wall.

There is no betrayer this time, and....Kelevmor....

YES!! There is where I am despressed.

The Game WONT let me bring down the Wall!!!!

Kelevmor the goodgod told me the reasons why himself doesnt want to break the wall.

Yes I am a mortal who Hated the Gith sword and was thrown into a wrong curse.

I couldnt careless why Kelevmor doesnt. I defeated his army and why can not I break the wall?

I would let my soul be the last one which is taken off from the wall. I demanded the wall fell!

ALRIGHT!!! No option. There is a companion call Dove. And She is designed to break the wall which is designed to be unbreakable. GREAT. Dove, i can see through your tragic end by the hand of designer. (And after i read other end of Dove. EXACTLY like what I expected)

I gave all reasons that why a player such as me will want to break the wall.

Knowing that the evil path will even let you to consume the whole wall, and gain immotality, why a good path can not??

And here I offer my own ending of this story:

First,
I assaulted the city of the dead for a good cause, brought down the walls. I freed all good souls with eternal rest and then use Akachi's hunger consume the bad ones, if bishop is awaken, good for him. After i gained the super power of such big feast. The neutr ones, i left them wonder on the land and tell all living being of my story, as a price to free them from the wall.

The arguement of faithless's fate will be passed on.

Then,

I went back to Mykul, unleash the fury of souls upon him and locked Mykul in my very will for centuries.
I torture Mykul with all kinds of question every second until he admit all he has done was not only for a duty of a god.

Mykul will break his prison after my will finally fade off. Come on, he is still a God who has believers.

Because I didnt collected all the masks in the game. (Because I let one piece of mask go together with Bishop. I never took itiems from nowhere. Bishop is a great evil person with great opinion, though he is evil. Bishop should be a god if he got power. Haha)

At Last,
As Kelevmor ever worried, the faith level of living beings drop down a big level. However, the gods were not worried as much as kelevmor ever did. The gods still hold their most power and spread their religion fast among all those who become no deity once again. Some gods fades and some gods become stronger in this chaotic era.

Kelevmor will finally see into the justice himself in a practical situation:innocent:.

All endings are too lawful. I am the Chaotic Good 0/100. I demand a greater good at all cost.

[The Fred]

OK I'll admit I didn't read the whole of that, but is the gist of it that you want to be able to overthrow the God of the Dead in his own domain and tear down the Wall of the Faithless? How, by casting Magic Missile at it repeatedly?

Seriously, this has been talked about, and I believe the consensus was that while, yes, the ending was a bit lame, it's kind of tough luck. It's really not that sensible that you could prevail (though perhaps they should have let you try and just made Kelemvor ridiculously powerful or set to plot) and that's just kind of that.

I get the point about chaotic endings (though why going for the "greater good" is necessarily chaotic and not lawful is another matter) but I'm pretty sure this has been argued both ways at length already.

[Louisdeer]

I would tear this wall down one soul by one soul, like what i have done to myself.

Work 3000 years I don't mind, but i need Kelevmor promise he wont put more souls into the wall. I can guard his city as well if he want to.

Remember Kelevmor himself never liked that wall neither, he just has no other ideas until i shown up.

For example, many countries can start a revolution without a alternative plan. That's why all the Monarchy lasted so long. Kelevmor and Akachi are the same. They started a revolution and fall into a same consequence, which is the wall remaining.

They need a new idea to replace the old one.

And my solution will be final.

You can say i am a mortal and i can not tear down the wall so simple by cast one spell or something. (remember the evil path ending will make even death god himself fears your power)

However, the wall has no immortality itself. It is created and can be undone. As long as Kelevmor stop throwing souls into that wall. The wall will be break bricks by bricks, One soul by one soul.

Please forgive me for all spell error and grammar error. However, i believe you shall see my point.

[Louisdeer]

The Fred wrote...

OK I'll admit I didn't read the whole of that, but is the gist of it that you want to be able to overthrow the God of the Dead in his own domain and tear down the Wall of the Faithless? How, by casting Magic Missile at it repeatedly?

Seriously, this has been talked about, and I believe the consensus was that while, yes, the ending was a bit lame, it's kind of tough luck. It's really not that sensible that you could prevail (though perhaps they should have let you try and just made Kelemvor ridiculously powerful or set to plot) and that's just kind of that.

I get the point about chaotic endings (though why going for the "greater good" is necessarily chaotic and not lawful is another matter) but I'm pretty sure this has been argued both ways at length already.

Thx for the reading. No matter how much you did read:D.

Well I say all good endings are too lawful, because you see there is much more limit there. PC can not tear down the wall because it cost too much for a lawful reason can bear, times, energy and refusing to consume souls. PC can not undo Akachi's curse because a lawful reason that a Mortal shouldnt undo a God's doing on another being.....

I say that is a Chaotic Good ending thats why I say it is "for greater good". The evil path is chaotic enough actually. I wonder if they will setup a Lawful evil ending with much less damage...OH!!! I have one, how about you made a contract with Kelevmor and he throw all faithless Souls for you instead into the wall??? Anyway.... just joking.

Seriously, all Law is about Cost.

I think If the cost is unbearable, it is lawful. A pc will worry more alternative consequences rather than do one thing at all cost.

Modifié par Louisdeer, 15 octobre 2011 - 06:58 .

[The Fred]

Louisdeer wrote...
You can say i am a mortal and i can not tear down the wall so simple by cast one spell or something.

Actually, with some Rings of Wizardry or something, unlimited Magic Missile spam is a pretty good way to take down almost anything, so long as it can't cast Globe of Invulnerability or something.

That said, yeah, from what I gather of the endings they could at least have tried to make them a bit more fulfilling. I hear they didn't want to mess with cannon D&D cosmology too much, but if you're going to make an epic campaign of appropriate proportions, you should be prepared to take at least a few liberties with it... I mean look at HotU.

[Louisdeer]

The Fred wrote...

Louisdeer wrote...
You can say i am a mortal and i can not tear down the wall so simple by cast one spell or something.

Actually, with some Rings of Wizardry or something, unlimited Magic Missile spam is a pretty good way to take down almost anything, so long as it can't cast Globe of Invulnerability or something.

That said, yeah, from what I gather of the endings they could at least have tried to make them a bit more fulfilling. I hear they didn't want to mess with cannon D&D cosmology too much, but if you're going to make an epic campaign of appropriate proportions, you should be prepared to take at least a few liberties with it... I mean look at HotU.

Thx for your support!! I would do that if i have that strength, hahaha~~