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[CAPSLOCK FURY]

Prince Zeel wrote...

CAPSLOCK FURY wrote...

If you use a bow then Elder Scrolls is a shooter.

Can you guys just take your moronic points elswhere? This topic is about the ridiculousness of Multiplayer. Why can't we have one topic to complain in? You guys have like 5  THAT ARE ACTIVE right now, that you guys can hi-five it up about how you've successfully ruined a good game.

Sure. If you take your anti-MP fanboy crap to the proper threads. Maybe try coming up with something intelligent instead of attacking people who actually want new things in their game. All I see from the vast majority of MP haters is "No u!". I've yet to see anything well thought out and plausible as a reason to be against giving people the option that you can completely ignore if you choose.

[vader da slayer]

Prince Zeel wrote...

CAPSLOCK FURY wrote...

If you use a bow then Elder Scrolls is a shooter.

Can you guys just take your moronic points elswhere? This topic is about the ridiculousness of Multiplayer. Why can't we have one topic to complain in? You guys have like 5  THAT ARE ACTIVE right now, that you guys can hi-five it up about how you've successfully ruined a good game.

how does adding in coop well after the SP was completed (love how people forget that the SP campaign was playable front to back in Dec of 2010) impact the quality of the SP? thats like saying that after you finished building an air plane for the "enthusiast" that adding an autopilot feature some how makes the plane less enjoyable to fly. the fact is neither do as both are options that you can choose to use or choose not to use. your irrationality is the only thing that is ruining anything and it (and others) is whats ruined this forum.

[Confused-Shepard]

The bottom line is:

Is the inclusion of Multiplayer a waste of resources?

[Blitzkrieg0811]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

And, your point is?

My point is... that you completely disregarded other singleplayer RPG devs, like Bethesda, in your OP <_<

[Captain Crash]

Casual gamers see multiplayer and it equals sales. As Fiery said though after a couple of months they will lose interest. Mass Effect combat is hardly revolutionary and Casey was bigging up hand grenades in one of the demos. Sums it up really, a lot of other games can and will do it far better.

Mass Effect was always a space opera with character development, interaction and an interesting over arching story. That what made it unique and why people loved it. You never played ME1 because of the combat. Now its developed into more of a combat game.

I dont think its lost its roots so to speak, but I do question this continued focus on combat above everything else. All were constantly hearing is ME3 combat.

Modifié par Captain Crash, 15 octobre 2011 - 07:04 .

[CAPSLOCK FURY]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

The bottom line is:

Is the inclusion of Multiplayer a waste of resources?

Maybe. We'll never know short of someone from Bioware saying so, though. We'll have plenty of people who know it, without knowing it though.

[vader da slayer]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

The bottom line is:

Is the inclusion of Multiplayer a waste of resources?

no. and to reiterate what I said earlier

they are in competition with every other game out there really. genre-ing doesn't remove teh fact that (while I and everyone here knows it won't sell as much) even games like Mass Effect are in competition with games like Call of Duty, Halo, and Gears of War. how? because the vast majority of people out there that buy games only buy a few games a year (especially new games). these people buy their yearly Madden and shooter or racing game and maybe one other game. this "one other game" is what Bioware/EA and everyone else out there is competeing for.

regardless of genre every game is indeed in competition with every other game for that "one other game" slot that people have.

[PXXL]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

The bottom line is:

Is the inclusion of Multiplayer a waste of resources?

I'll let ya know a few months after release.. can't be here for spoilers right after 

[vader da slayer]

Captain Crash wrote...

Casual gamers see multiplayer and it equals sales. As Fiery said though after a couple of months they will lose interest. Mass Effect combat is hardly revolutionary and Casey was bigging up hand grenades in one of the demos. Sums it up really, a lot of other games can and will do it far better.

Mass Effect was always a space opera with character development, interaction and an interesting over arching story. That what made it unique and why people loved it. You never played ME1 because of the combat. Now its developed into more of a combat game.

I dont think its lost its roots so to speak, but I do question this continued focus on combat above everything else. All were constantly hearing is ME3 combat.

actually combat was precisely the reason why I bought ME1. an RPG with shooter combat made by Bioware (this was back in like 2005 or so when it was annouced)? yes please.

[CroGamer002]

Bioware Montreal sole purpose is to assist other studios projects when needed.

Only thing they ever did are ME2 Overlord, LotSB, Arrival DLC and ME3 Co-Op.



So no, resources are not wasted.
Those guys are just a back up since 2009.

[amk-aka-phantom]

It's EA, what do you want? I completely agree with the OP.

[Someone With Mass]

Prince Zeel wrote...
Even if that is true. WHICH I DOUBT. I'm pretty sure I've seen some Casey quotes saying ME3 would not have MP much earlier than 1 and a half years ago.

A good game needs more than "a year and a half" of development time. Again, look at DA2. All this shows to me is that, Bioware has less time and money to focus on a single player experience. 


yay for mediocrity.

Yay for not being able to come to the most simple of conclusions. 

One and a half year is more than enough when you're making one multiplayer mode.

Especially when it's done by another studio.

But now you're going to spew out all that generic bulls***t about how MP somehow takes away vital resources from the singleplayer, to which I'd like you to refer to the cute little thing called proof of such situation.

[CroGamer002]

Captain Crash wrote...

Casual gamers see multiplayer and it equals sales. As Fiery said though after a couple of months they will lose interest. Mass Effect combat is hardly revolutionary and Casey was bigging up hand grenades in one of the demos. Sums it up really, a lot of other games can and will do it far better.

Mass Effect was always a space opera with character development, interaction and an interesting over arching story. That what made it unique and why people loved it. You never played ME1 because of the combat. Now its developed into more of a combat game.

I dont think its lost its roots so to speak, but I do question this continued focus on combat above everything else. All were constantly hearing is ME3 combat.

Spoilers.<_<

[Funkcase]

Captain Crash wrote...


I dont think its lost its roots so to speak, but I do question this continued focus on combat above everything else. All were constantly hearing is ME3 combat.

This is the only real thing that I am concerned about with ME3, it was my biggest problem with ME2 too, pointlessly killing a bunch of mercs just to get to tell Garrus to not kill a guy left a sour taste in my mouth, not that I didn't enjoy it, it just felt uneeded at times. The N7 missions were dissapointing, I would've liked character interaction and decision making over pointless shooting.

Modifié par Funkcase, 15 octobre 2011 - 07:12 .

[Prince Zeel]

IsaacShep wrote...

Barbie Sheppard, s/s, Ashley's clothing, Vega's hair and all the stuff like that costs next to nothing to get changed/implemented/removed, compared to MP mode that has been in developement for at least a year now = EA spent tons of cash paying people to work full-time on it. Ashley's new outfit will get done in 2 days, Barbie Shepard thing was fixable in 2 seconds by changing the color of hair texture. MP was a big investement EA would never drop at this point, they would waste millions of $$$ they've spent on its developement in the past year or more. So hell yeah it's realistic to expect the game will ship with MP no matter how much fans complain. There may be some changes to MP based on fan feedback/complaints, but they would never drop it all together, it's too late.

Where are you guys getting this "for atleast" a year development? I wanna see some quotes or some ****. Because I'm pretty sure Bioware has not been working on MP for that long.

They are about to waste a crapload of money on a MP feature that will detract greatly from the game.  EA are run by a much of money sucking vampires, I wish the gaming industry would riot and kill everyone one of those suits in their offices.


I agree, they aren't going to get rid of it at this point. Again, you're still missing my point, I'm not complaining to change it, I'm complaining because it's disgusting.

[Captain Crash]

vader da slayer wrote...

actually combat was precisely the reason why I bought ME1. an RPG with shooter combat made by Bioware (this was back in like 2005 or so when it was annouced)? yes please.

I stand corrected then 

Personally I bought it for its story element after seeing all the character interactions in the demos.  The combat looked nice, but it was never a selling point for me.

[CroGamer002]

amk-aka-phantom wrote...

It's EA, what do you want? I completely agree with the OP.

Half of Bioware games have multiplayer and only 3 out of 8 games under EA Bioware made MP.

Mass Effect 3, Warhammer Online and The Old Republic.

[Reptillius]

Actually this co-op mode may help me to get a couple of my coworkers more into RPG's. i got a couple of them that touch on them a little at this point. But mostly for the combat... maybe with this even if it means I have to buy the game on two systems I can get them to play more of them and grow into more of the games I like. Rather than just playing Forza and Call of Duty all day.

[Prince Zeel]

Funkcase wrote...

Most fans didn't want multiplayer Zeel, I for one didn't want it, although now that I've heard what it is I'm going to give it a chance as it does sound fun and hopefully the main game wont be effected by it. I will reserve my judgment on it until then.

You can hope, pray, bow down all you want. I already know what's coming. I'm a little disgusted by your optimism. As if  Bioware is a super gaming company that can make great games with half the time and half the resources.

Modifié par Prince Zeel, 15 octobre 2011 - 07:12 .

[CptBomBom00]

I hope Fox news wont screwed up ME3 Romance scenes, because ME1 had the best ones.

[CroGamer002]

Captain Crash wrote...

vader da slayer wrote...

actually combat was precisely the reason why I bought ME1. an RPG with shooter combat made by Bioware (this was back in like 2005 or so when it was annouced)? yes please.

I stand corrected then 

Personally I bought it for its story element after seeing all the character interactions in the demos.  The combat looked nice, but it was never a selling point for me.

Oh yeah, I remember as well.

I bought ME1 do to being shooter RPG.

Fallout 3 made me very interested in that hybrid and that's how I find out about Mass Effect.
Though ME1 gameplay disappointed me, but story and characters are amazing.

ME2 did perfect hybrid and characters way better. Story is weaker, but still great.

[shepskisaac]

Prince Zeel wrote...

Where are you guys getting this "for atleast" a year development? I wanna see some quotes or some ****. Because I'm pretty sure Bioware has not been working on MP for that long.

Because EA was hiring  multiplayer programmers for ME at Montreal since at least June 1st 2010:
www.giantbomb.com/news/job-ad-teases-mass-effect-multiplayer/2044/

Modifié par IsaacShep, 15 octobre 2011 - 07:14 .

[alex90c]

Prince Zeel wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Barbie Sheppard, s/s, Ashley's clothing, Vega's hair and all the stuff like that costs next to nothing to get changed/implemented/removed, compared to MP mode that has been in developement for at least a year now = EA spent tons of cash paying people to work full-time on it. Ashley's new outfit will get done in 2 days, Barbie Shepard thing was fixable in 2 seconds by changing the color of hair texture. MP was a big investement EA would never drop at this point, they would waste millions of $$$ they've spent on its developement in the past year or more. So hell yeah it's realistic to expect the game will ship with MP no matter how much fans complain. There may be some changes to MP based on fan feedback/complaints, but they would never drop it all together, it's too late.

Where are you guys getting this "for atleast" a year development? I wanna see some quotes or some ****. Because I'm pretty sure Bioware has not been working on MP for that long.

They are about to waste a crapload of money on a MP feature that will detract greatly from the game.  EA are run by a much of money sucking vampires, I wish the gaming industry would riot and kill everyone one of those suits in their offices.


I agree, they aren't going to get rid of it at this point. Again, you're still missing my point, I'm not complaining to change it, I'm complaining because it's disgusting.

It will detract greatly? Really? From people who have played the ME3 demo, the gameplay is great, and from reading the Twitter updates it seems Bioware are really paying a lot of attention to dialogue, characters and bringing back more RPG elements/customisation in ME3 so where's the problem here?

[Sailears]

Funkcase wrote...

Most fans didn't want multiplayer Zeel, I for one didn't want it, although now that I've heard what it is I'm going to give it a chance as it does sound fun and hopefully the main game wont be effected by it. I will reserve my judgment on it until then.

We have reached concensus and are in agreement.