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[CptBomBom00]

Finally.

[Prince Zeel]

CAPSLOCK FURY wrote...



Sure. If you take your anti-MP fanboy crap to the proper threads. Maybe try coming up with something intelligent instead of attacking people who actually want new things in their game. All I see from the vast majority of MP haters is "No u!". I've yet to see anything well thought out and plausible as a reason to be against giving people the option that you can completely ignore if you choose.

Do you have dyslexia? or some crap? This chick just presented two paragraphs of SOLID arguments and that's a "NO U" ? You must be on some serious drugs man. I've also presented arguments as well. I know you pro MP fanboys don't want to admit it. but the MP idea is a stupid idea, and the game WILL suffer because of it . 

If you aren't going to read my arguments, I'm just going to stop giving them. How's that?


And wtf, fanboy? i'm a fanboy for protesting against a Bioware feature? What logic is this? this must be the same backwards logic that makes you believe MP is going to be SO AMAZING. OMG CO-OP, CAPTURE DA POINTS. YAY!!!!! You guys are easily impressed. i could release news about blinking lights and this forum would be talking about it for days.

[Funkcase]

Prince Zeel wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

Most fans didn't want multiplayer Zeel, I for one didn't want it, although now that I've heard what it is I'm going to give it a chance as it does sound fun and hopefully the main game wont be effected by it. I will reserve my judgment on it until then.

You can hope, pray, bow down all you want. I already know what's coming. I'm a little disgusted by your optimism. As if  Bioware is a super gaming company that can make great games with half the time and half the resources.

Really? I didn't say it will be good regardless, I said I'm going to wait and see how the game is before I pass my judgement, and they've been working on ME3 since ME2, Bioware have had plenty of time. Besides it's better than constant pessimism, it's only a game, if it's not up to my expectations I will be very dissapointed, yes. But it wont be the end of the world, I will just go play something else, and would be more cautious with Bioware games.

[JeffZero]

Wait, what color are the lights?

[MythicLegands]

Captain Crash wrote...

Casual gamers see multiplayer and it equals sales. As Fiery said though after a couple of months they will lose interest. Mass Effect combat is hardly revolutionary and Casey was bigging up hand grenades in one of the demos. Sums it up really, a lot of other games can and will do it far better.

This is 100% correct, does Bioware honestly think they can get get the halo, gears, COD crowd when those games have far better multi player features than ME3. The co-op will be dead within a few months and the servers will be shout down.

[CroGamer002]

Mei Mei wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...
Casual gamers see multiplayer and it equals sales. As Fiery said though after a couple of months they will lose interest.

Biowares own stats state this fact. The reality is, ME 2 lost half its players during play thus only after the release will you know if MP had any impact on sales or replayability.

Many people who bought ME2 either don't have internet or didn't connected ME2 to Bioware.

Also ME2 sales increased on PC and XBOX360 during whole year plus PS3( sold 600-900k copies today).

[Prince Zeel]

vader da slayer wrote...


how does adding in coop well after the SP was completed (love how people forget that the SP campaign was playable front to back in Dec of 2010) impact the quality of the SP? thats like saying that after you finished building an air plane for the "enthusiast" that adding an autopilot feature some how makes the plane less enjoyable to fly. the fact is neither do as both are options that you can choose to use or choose not to use. your irrationality is the only thing that is ruining anything and it (and others) is whats ruined this forum.

Who keeps telling you guys this nonsense? "Well after sp was completed" huh??! where??@? Where is this information?!? It's like you guys KNOW Multiplayer is sapping resources and instead of coming to the LOGICAL conclusion that the game will suffer, you guys want to spin webs of lies and BS "good reasons".

I'm sorry, I'm not that deluded. When I see the color red. It's red. Not "magneta"

"irrationality" LOL. I love this. I ****ING LOVE THIS. It's like you guys are on a different planet. I don't understand whats so irrational about putting two things together. Less game development time, more features = game suffers. Someone tell me where my math is off, please?

[CroGamer002]

MythicLegands wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...

Casual gamers see multiplayer and it equals sales. As Fiery said though after a couple of months they will lose interest. Mass Effect combat is hardly revolutionary and Casey was bigging up hand grenades in one of the demos. Sums it up really, a lot of other games can and will do it far better.

This is 100% correct, does Bioware honestly think they can get get the halo, gears, COD crowd when those games have far better multi player features than ME3. The co-op will be dead within a few months and the servers will be shout down.

That's bull.

There will be many people from BSN who will play it often.
And that's only a fraction.

[Confused-Shepard]

Reading another thread. I hope the co-op characters are actual character's with voices and maybe cameos in singleplayer or even interaction with Shepard as opposed to faceless mooks. Just two voices for male & female (Meer & Hale?) would do nicely

[Prince Zeel]

IsaacShep wrote...

Prince Zeel wrote...

Where are you guys getting this "for atleast" a year development? I wanna see some quotes or some ****. Because I'm pretty sure Bioware has not been working on MP for that long.

Because EA was hiring  multiplayer programmers for ME at Montreal since at least June 1st 2010:
www.giantbomb.com/news/job-ad-teases-mass-effect-multiplayer/2044/

OH RIGHT. Let me get this straight. "hiring" = INSTANT START ON MULTIPLAYER. let me clue you guys into how the development process works.

Hiring -> Brainstorming -> development. It's not instanteous. 

And still less than a year is not enough for any game.

[Fiery Phoenix]

MythicLegands wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...

Casual gamers see multiplayer and it equals sales. As Fiery said though after a couple of months they will lose interest. Mass Effect combat is hardly revolutionary and Casey was bigging up hand grenades in one of the demos. Sums it up really, a lot of other games can and will do it far better.

This is 100% correct, does Bioware honestly think they can get get the halo, gears, COD crowd when those games have far better multi player features than ME3. The co-op will be dead within a few months and the servers will be shout down.

Just like Dead Space 2. It seems no one bothered playing its multiplayer for more than a few days, if at all. The servers might as well be shut down by this point. Obviously it was the wrong game for multiplayer, but that's EA for you.

[Confused-Shepard]

Mesina2 wrote...

MythicLegands wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...

Casual gamers see multiplayer and it equals sales. As Fiery said though after a couple of months they will lose interest. Mass Effect combat is hardly revolutionary and Casey was bigging up hand grenades in one of the demos. Sums it up really, a lot of other games can and will do it far better.

This is 100% correct, does Bioware honestly think they can get get the halo, gears, COD crowd when those games have far better multi player features than ME3. The co-op will be dead within a few months and the servers will be shout down.

That's bull.

There will be many people from BSN who will play it often.
And that's only a fraction.

You're delusuional. Mass Effect multiplayer will be forgotten in 2 months

[Prince Zeel]

Mesina2 wrote...


That's bull.

There will be many people from BSN who will play it often.
And that's only a fraction.

Who tells you this crap? A fortune cookie? this co-op will be sucky, mark my words. Bioware has no fcking idea how to develop a co op. And here they are trying in half the time. This should be a laugh.

[MythicLegands]

Mesina2 wrote...

MythicLegands wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...

Casual gamers see multiplayer and it equals sales. As Fiery said though after a couple of months they will lose interest. Mass Effect combat is hardly revolutionary and Casey was bigging up hand grenades in one of the demos. Sums it up really, a lot of other games can and will do it far better.

This is 100% correct, does Bioware honestly think they can get get the halo, gears, COD crowd when those games have far better multi player features than ME3. The co-op will be dead within a few months and the servers will be shout down.

That's bull.

There will be many people from BSN who will play it often.
And that's only a fraction.

they will be shout down when there is not enough traffic. Splinter cell CT had a good MP but the servers were shout down because it was basically dead.

[Hathur]

JeffZero wrote...

Wait, what color are the lights?

"There.... Are.... Four.... Lights!"

......... wait.. did I just mix my references up? 

I think I did... nevermind. 

Modifié par Hathur, 15 octobre 2011 - 07:23 .

[Prince Zeel]

Funkcase wrote...

Really? I didn't say it will be good regardless, I said I'm going to wait and see how the game is before I pass my judgement, and they've been working on ME3 since ME2, Bioware have had plenty of time. Besides it's better than constant pessimism, it's only a game, if it's not up to my expectations I will be very dissapointed, yes. But it wont be the end of the world, I will just go play something else, and would be more cautious with Bioware games.

No disagreements from me. You do what you feel comfortable with. I'll continue to complain until I'm comfortable.

[Blooddrunk1004]

Prince Zeel wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...


That's bull.

There will be many people from BSN who will play it often.
And that's only a fraction.

Who tells you this crap? A fortune cookie? this co-op will be sucky, mark my words. Bioware has no fcking idea how to develop a co op. And here they are trying in half the time. This should be a laugh.

FYI Baldur's Gate and NWN already had co-op and it was very well implented.
How about doing some research instead of talking out of your a"".

Modifié par Blooddrunk1004, 15 octobre 2011 - 07:26 .

[CAPSLOCK FURY]

Prince Zeel wrote...

Do you have dyslexia? or some crap? This chick just presented two paragraphs of SOLID arguments and that's a "NO U" ? You must be on some serious drugs man. I've also presented arguments as well. I know you pro MP fanboys don't want to admit it. but the MP idea is a stupid idea, and the game WILL suffer because of it . 

If you aren't going to read my arguments, I'm just going to stop giving them. How's that?


And wtf, fanboy? i'm a fanboy for protesting against a Bioware feature? What logic is this? this must be the same backwards logic that makes you believe MP is going to be SO AMAZING. OMG CO-OP, CAPTURE DA POINTS. YAY!!!!! You guys are easily impressed. i could release news about blinking lights and this forum would be talking about it for days.

Solid arguements about cheetos and degrading anyone that plays multiplayer games? Right...

When you make some arguements that include something that don't involve conjecture that has no basis outside of your own fantasy world, then I'll bother reading them. I might even respond with something nice. Also, I never stated that MP was going to me SO AMAZING. I said you're attacking people just because they don't agree with you. This crowd that has decided to bust into BSN and start demanding that everyone else has to bow down to their wishes is beyond arrogant. I have no idea how people like you can even function in society if you start raging anytime someone mentions something you don't like, yet can completely ignore if you wish to.

umadbro?

PS : You should look up what fanboy actually means before trying to argue against it.

[BatmanPWNS]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

MythicLegands wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...

Casual gamers see multiplayer and it equals sales. As Fiery said though after a couple of months they will lose interest. Mass Effect combat is hardly revolutionary and Casey was bigging up hand grenades in one of the demos. Sums it up really, a lot of other games can and will do it far better.

This is 100% correct, does Bioware honestly think they can get get the halo, gears, COD crowd when those games have far better multi player features than ME3. The co-op will be dead within a few months and the servers will be shout down.

That's bull.

There will be many people from BSN who will play it often.
And that's only a fraction.

You're delusuional. Mass Effect multiplayer will be forgotten in 2 months

You must be from the future!

Can you tell me how well did "The Dark Knight Rises" did in Box office?

[Lukertin]

They compete with every game developer out there, and then some. By then some, I mean, they compete with the TV, and the movie theater, and everything else people do for fun in their free time.

[spirosz]

They're competing with there own fan-base it seems, lol.

[shepskisaac]

Prince Zeel wrote...

OH RIGHT. Let me get this straight. "hiring" = INSTANT START ON MULTIPLAYER. let me clue you guys into how the development process works.

Hiring -> Brainstorming -> development. It's not instanteous. 

And still less than a year is not enough for any game.

And if you know so much about developement, you will also know it won't take 10 months to brainstorm. Not to mention, June 1st 2010 is when the press discovered the job ad, no one knows exactly how long it's been there. Or perhaps the ad was for a position that had to be replaced while the MP campaign was already under developement. A previous dev may have been fired or moved to another company. One thing is clear, MP in ME3 was on the table since a long time.

[Phaedon]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

The bottom line is:

Is the inclusion of Multiplayer a waste of resources?

Does it matter for you? The extra funds were given by EA when they accepted to include that feature.

Are you feeling bad because EA might be losing money? Or because that money weren't instead sent to the development team of FIFA '13?

[Someone With Mass]

So what if the co-op won't be played for long? Does that somehow degrade the rest of the game as well?

Oh, and you can play the co-op missions by yourself if you so choose.

[vader da slayer]

Prince Zeel wrote...

vader da slayer wrote...


how does adding in coop well after the SP was completed (love how people forget that the SP campaign was playable front to back in Dec of 2010) impact the quality of the SP? thats like saying that after you finished building an air plane for the "enthusiast" that adding an autopilot feature some how makes the plane less enjoyable to fly. the fact is neither do as both are options that you can choose to use or choose not to use. your irrationality is the only thing that is ruining anything and it (and others) is whats ruined this forum.

Who keeps telling you guys this nonsense? "Well after sp was completed" huh??! where??@? Where is this information?!? It's like you guys KNOW Multiplayer is sapping resources and instead of coming to the LOGICAL conclusion that the game will suffer, you guys want to spin webs of lies and BS "good reasons".

I'm sorry, I'm not that deluded. When I see the color red. It's red. Not "magneta"

"irrationality" LOL. I love this. I ****ING LOVE THIS. It's like you guys are on a different planet. I don't understand whats so irrational about putting two things together. Less game development time, more features = game suffers. Someone tell me where my math is off, please?

ummm lets see multiple Bioware employee's have stated (and tweeted) that the SP campaign was done and fully playable (maybe not voice acted and all the final textures but thats just the VA getting time to do it  and replacing file names in code) in Dec of 2010. infact I think it was either STan Woo or Brennen Holmes that said they were on their 6th playthrough of the campaign back around E3.

this is also not to mention that int he press release last wednesday or teh preview of the release done by Chris Priestly that it was said that Bioware Montreal did teh coop. guess what, Bioware Edmonton did ME1 and ME2 and all of the sp parts for ME3. so was it not only started either near teh completion of the campaigns dev cycle, it was started and done by an entirely different group of people.

so yes your math is off. you are effectively saying that a multi processor computer would take the same time to do 2 things as a single proccessor computer. maybe you should go do some research on the COOP feature before having dyrreah of the hands and claiming the world (in respect to ME) has come to an end.

Modifié par vader da slayer, 15 octobre 2011 - 07:33 .