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[shepskisaac]

Prince Zeel wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Prince Zeel wrote...

Me3 was designed to be a single player experience, then at the final quarter some moron decided it made sense to slap some co-op capture the points nonsense on it.

No matter how much I may like or dislike MP in ME3, I've just proved it to you MP was not a last-quarter idea, it was the at least a first-quarter one.

Does me1 and me2 not count as part of the series?

Ahh, thought you were talking ME3 solely

[Funkcase]

Prince Zeel wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Prince Zeel wrote...

Merci357 wrote...

And who told you this? Your fortune cookie?

Watch this sweetheart.

Reading
thinking
and concluding.


Do it sometime.

I can pull facts out of my ass too, but I simply choose not to, because I don't need to.

I am so tired of you Mass. You can't debate. take your little pro mp mob back to your little topics and leave us alone.

You can't tell someone they can't debate then tell them to all get out becuase they're debating, lol.

Modifié par Funkcase, 15 octobre 2011 - 08:00 .

[vader da slayer]

Prince Zeel wrote...

CAPSLOCK FURY wrote...

Prince Zeel wrote...

Do you have dyslexia? or some crap? This chick just presented two paragraphs of SOLID arguments and that's a "NO U" ? You must be on some serious drugs man. I've also presented arguments as well. I know you pro MP fanboys don't want to admit it. but the MP idea is a stupid idea, and the game WILL suffer because of it . 

If you aren't going to read my arguments, I'm just going to stop giving them. How's that?


And wtf, fanboy? i'm a fanboy for protesting against a Bioware feature? What logic is this? this must be the same backwards logic that makes you believe MP is going to be SO AMAZING. OMG CO-OP, CAPTURE DA POINTS. YAY!!!!! You guys are easily impressed. i could release news about blinking lights and this forum would be talking about it for days.

Solid arguements about cheetos and degrading anyone that plays multiplayer games? Right...

When you make some arguements that include something that don't involve conjecture that has no basis outside of your own fantasy world, then I'll bother reading them. I might even respond with something nice. Also, I never stated that MP was going to me SO AMAZING. I said you're attacking people just because they don't agree with you. This crowd that has decided to bust into BSN and start demanding that everyone else has to bow down to their wishes is beyond arrogant. I have no idea how people like you can even function in society if you start raging anytime someone mentions something you don't like, yet can completely ignore if you wish to.

umadbro?

PS : You should look up what fanboy actually means before trying to argue against it.

You must be a special ed student. must I condense the arguments for you?

Hmm, little boy.

me1 and me2. appeal 2 singleplayer player. m3 y jump ship?

multiplayer fans not interested in rpg game.
 
why waste time?

Who is attacking who? Again, you must have problems with comprehension. THis lovely lady presented her argument in a kind and gentle manner (Much kinder than I would have) and within MINUTES, this pro mp mob comes out with their pitch forks and knives going "ooga booga MP ooga booga"

You need to start re-attending English class,

actually the first person to start the whole "ooga boog" (like seriously wtf is that) was you calling people fools. everyone before that and several after that were perfectly cordial and giving legitimate responses. then you came in and started calling anyone who like the idea of a coop game in a game where the combat is squad based 3rd person tactical shooter a fool.

also Im a fan of multiplayer and very much like rpgs. infact multiplayer and RPG go so well together there's and entire genre of said game, you may not have heard of it since you are still stuck with those pencil and paper rpgs or yours (watch for splinters) known as MMORPG, ala WoW Eve AoC Ultima etc. your entire notion that someone who like one can't like the other further proves that you are very irrational in your rabid hatred from the coop in ME3 (dare I say rabidly fanboyistic hatred).

and the reason to jump ship is like I stated before. the vast majority of people only have enough money to buy a few (especially new) games a year. so they buy their 2 yearly games (madden, cod or other shooter or racing game) and then one other one. this "one other one" is the slot that they are competing for. adding coop further increases their chances of someone of above nature to buy said game because they will get more enjoyment out of it since they can play with thier family or friends when they are over.

[Prince Zeel]

Funkcase wrote...

You can't tell someone they can't debate then tell them to all get out becuase they're debating, lol.

If you call typing gibberish "debating". I've argued with this dude before, He can't throw out a cohesive point if his life depended on it.


Just wait, he's about to call me a Troll.

[Confused-Shepard]

vader da slayer wrote...

Prince Zeel wrote...

CAPSLOCK FURY wrote...

Prince Zeel wrote...

Do you have dyslexia? or some crap? This chick just presented two paragraphs of SOLID arguments and that's a "NO U" ? You must be on some serious drugs man. I've also presented arguments as well. I know you pro MP fanboys don't want to admit it. but the MP idea is a stupid idea, and the game WILL suffer because of it . 

If you aren't going to read my arguments, I'm just going to stop giving them. How's that?


And wtf, fanboy? i'm a fanboy for protesting against a Bioware feature? What logic is this? this must be the same backwards logic that makes you believe MP is going to be SO AMAZING. OMG CO-OP, CAPTURE DA POINTS. YAY!!!!! You guys are easily impressed. i could release news about blinking lights and this forum would be talking about it for days.

Solid arguements about cheetos and degrading anyone that plays multiplayer games? Right...

When you make some arguements that include something that don't involve conjecture that has no basis outside of your own fantasy world, then I'll bother reading them. I might even respond with something nice. Also, I never stated that MP was going to me SO AMAZING. I said you're attacking people just because they don't agree with you. This crowd that has decided to bust into BSN and start demanding that everyone else has to bow down to their wishes is beyond arrogant. I have no idea how people like you can even function in society if you start raging anytime someone mentions something you don't like, yet can completely ignore if you wish to.

umadbro?

PS : You should look up what fanboy actually means before trying to argue against it.

You must be a special ed student. must I condense the arguments for you?

Hmm, little boy.

me1 and me2. appeal 2 singleplayer player. m3 y jump ship?

multiplayer fans not interested in rpg game.
 
why waste time?

Who is attacking who? Again, you must have problems with comprehension. THis lovely lady presented her argument in a kind and gentle manner (Much kinder than I would have) and within MINUTES, this pro mp mob comes out with their pitch forks and knives going "ooga booga MP ooga booga"

You need to start re-attending English class,

actually the first person to start the whole "ooga boog" (like seriously wtf is that) was you calling people fools. everyone before that and several after that were perfectly cordial and giving legitimate responses. then you came in and started calling anyone who like the idea of a coop game in a game where the combat is squad based 3rd person tactical shooter a fool.

also Im a fan of multiplayer and very much like rpgs. infact multiplayer and RPG go so well together there's and entire genre of said game, you may not have heard of it since you are still stuck with those pencil and paper rpgs or yours (watch for splinters) known as MMORPG, ala WoW Eve AoC Ultima etc. your entire notion that someone who like one can't like the other further proves that you are very irrational in your rabid hatred from the coop in ME3 (dare I say rabidly fanboyistic hatred).

and the reason to jump ship is like I stated before. the vast majority of people only have enough money to buy a few (especially new) games a year. so they buy their 2 yearly games (madden, cod or other shooter or racing game) and then one other one. this "one other one" is the slot that they are competing for. adding coop further increases their chances of someone of above nature to buy said game because they will get more enjoyment out of it since they can play with thier family or friends when they are over.

But then I sincerely hope the Co-Op has some relevance, depth and meaning and is not comepletely isolated from the rest of the game. Let's have something meaty. Let the co-op characters be ACTUAL characters.

[Erszebeth]

Let's see. A MP co-op where you can choose class and race ? I think they're trying to see if there is a market for a Mass Effect MMO. It certainly explains the tacked on 'galactic readiness' thingy to try to give it depth. They only are competing with the expectations on the Mass Effect brand. There's nothing wrong about trying something new and I wouldn't mind MP if it wasn't undermining about everything about Shepard's story.

You know, things like being the hero and making important choices along three games. Now you can do whatever you want, and it will not have to matter if you don't want it to.

[SlurpinTaxt]

All I can say about multiplayer is CALLED IT

[Bluko]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Cool story bro. No really. Very Star Wars with just a hint of Harry Potter. Most likely true.

Well I just call it like I see it.

Personally the inclusion of MP doesn't bother me, so much as others things that have been done at this point to get there. In fact I quite clearly remember Christina Norman saying they were ready to strip all RPG elements out of ME2 and make it a straight up TPS in the whole "Where's my inventory" thingy. If that doesn't tell you what their intentions are... I dunno what to tell you. And now that we've got MP coming it's painfully obvious.

Really I think Bioware is shooting itself in the foot by trying to copycat Gears as much as they do. Sure Gears is pretty popular and most people enjoy it, thus why the shooting elements introduced in ME2 don't bother too many people. I still believe the Mass Effect series would have been more successful had it stuck more to it's original premise. Bioware just doesn't have the crew or experience to really get by on making a straight up TPS. I think they sort of know this as well, which is why it's all the more painful to see them attempt to do so. I don't understand what they think they're going to accomplish.

[essarr71]

Rezources wrote...

Oh man, please, everyone check out Zeel's blog. It is so worth it.

Car wrecks slow down to look at that.

[DaringMoosejaw]

Whoah! Zeel and Confused are certainly a formidable tag-team of trolls! But it's so blatantly obvious that they are that I have no idea why anyone's falling for it. Giving them attention is exactly what they want, you're better off skipping over them whenever you see their names pop up.

And Zeel, people call you a troll because you ARE one. It may be impressive of you to claim otherwise, but it is so blatantly obvious. Everything you say is carefully planned in order to ****** someone off, your arguments are absolutely nothing but ad hominem attacks on others and assertions you could never prove.

The only point you've ever made is a solid case for this forum to have an ignore feature so you can't derail every thread you pipe up in.

Modifié par DaringMoosejaw, 15 octobre 2011 - 08:14 .

[Computer_God91]

Zeel, you really need to calm the f*ck down. You come off as a raging brat that didn't get their way. Just because a feature in a game is included that you don't like doesn't excuse you acting like a baby. Here is your simple answer: You don't like the way they took ME3? Don't buy it, gtfo of the forums, and go play some other game.

I can't wait till you play ME3 and enjoy it and then make yourself look like a bigger moron.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

But seriously, why even bother? Is EA/Bioware missing a few brain cells? Who the heck are they competing with?

Its EA dude, they're like the tumor of the gaming world. Anyone/anything they get involved with something horribly bad happens, EVERY TIME. Just take a look at these links- 

  



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeGvZQdb4-I

Now some of that stuff would've been ok if they just kept it SEPERATE from the main game, but noooooo.

EDIT: Just thought I'd add this...

Modifié par NOD-INFORMER37, 15 octobre 2011 - 08:26 .

[Someone With Mass]

Prince Zeel wrote...

If you call typing gibberish "debating". I've argued with this dude before, He can't throw out a cohesive point if his life depended on it.


Just wait, he's about to call me a Troll.

When you give me something worth debating beyond "Whaaa, multiplayer is crap!", I'll be here.

Because I'm not going to waste that kind of time on you, if that's what you think.

[Prince Zeel]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

Whoah! Zeel and Confused are certainly a formidable tag-team of trolls! But it's so blatantly obvious that they are that I have no idea why anyone's falling for it. Giving them attention is exactly what they want, you're better off skipping over them whenever you see their names pop up.

And Zeel, people call you a troll because you ARE one. It may be impressive of you to claim otherwise, but it is so blatantly obvious. Everything you say is carefully planned in order to ****** someone off, your arguments are absolutely nothing but ad hominem attacks on others and assertions you could never prove.

The only point you've ever made is a solid case for this forum to have an ignore feature so you can't derail every thread you pipe up in.

here we go. Always, without fail. No matter how well I am arguing my position. How little insults are being used.

Troll.

This will probably be the only time, I will ever say this. 


You give me too much credit.

I'm not that well bred to be able to "plan" out troll arguments. I type out what I think and people react. There's really nothing trollish about it. You can argue that my agressive nature is what makes me a troll, but my arguments, (yet to be refuted btw) are not trollish. My attitude is a little dickish, but yes, that is just apart of who I am.

If you need more proof, dig up my Zemious' account. those were trolls, there is a great difference between Zemious and Zeel. I'm getting a little tired of these troll accusations every bloody topic I post in. Either put up or get out. 


and confused a troll? LOL. I love this. This is bloody brilliant. ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH MP IS A TROLL. THIS I DO DECLARE.

[Savber100]

Confused-Shepard wrote...
Now RPG forums are miostly the realm of whining, butt hurt fanboys and immature gamers b*tching on a forum over petty, optional features because they don't have a life while assuming THEY know everything about the current industry as they eat cheetos and pretend to be "experts" in what they talk about. These people are unforyunately more common than smart, mature people who play games.

Fix'd 

So how do you like MY generalization of RPG players? :happy:

Modifié par Savber100, 15 octobre 2011 - 08:22 .

[CptBomBom00]

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

But seriously, why even bother? Is EA/Bioware missing a few brain cells? Who the heck are they competing with?

Its EA dude, they're like the tumor of the gaming world. Anyone/anything they get involved with something horribly bad happens, EVERY TIME. Just take a look at these links- 

  



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeGvZQdb4-I

Now some of that stuff would've been ok if they just kept it SEPERATE from the main game, but noooooo.

EA loves to screwed things up don't they?

[Hathur]

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

But seriously, why even bother? Is EA/Bioware missing a few brain cells? Who the heck are they competing with?

Its EA dude, they're like the tumor of the gaming world. Anyone/anything they get involved with something horribly bad happens, EVERY TIME. Just take a look at these links- 

  



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeGvZQdb4-I

Now some of that stuff would've been ok if they just kept it SEPERATE from the main game, but noooooo.

Don't you DARE bring up that abortion of a game called C&C 4! I threw that thing where it belongs... the trash! I did not need you to remind me of the 50 dollars I wasted on that! 

<slams door>

/bitter

[Prince Zeel]

LISTING OUT ARGUMENTS FOR EVERYONE:

1. No appeal to core me series fan
 -Most fans here weren't asking for MP. That's because we played me1 and 2 single campaign and were more than satisified.

2. Slapped on. the past two games had no multiplayer.
 -if the past two games didn't include mp. there is no argument good enough to explain how "seemless" the new multiplayer feature will be.

3. Less resources on Single player
-If Bioware has to develop a co-op feature, the money has to split somewhere. I've yet to read 'good' evidence that suggests sp experience was finished, or any evidence that suggests that Bioware has infinite time and money.

4. Bioware isn't the best at Co-op
-Very little experience. BG1 and BG2 and NWN had different types of multiplayers. Not shooters. the multiplayers in these games just made you become apart of the party. Not very "inuitive" really. The new mp for me3 is a WHOLE new feature. with "galax readiness"

5. Shorter Development cycle
-game will suffer, less time, less experience.

6. Adds nothing to the series
-Literally nothing. this galaxy readiness is such a slap.

Modifié par Prince Zeel, 15 octobre 2011 - 08:25 .

[Confused-Shepard]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

Whoah! Zeel and Confused are certainly a formidable tag-team of trolls! But it's so blatantly obvious that they are that I have no idea why anyone's falling for it. Giving them attention is exactly what they want, you're better off skipping over them whenever you see their names pop up.

And Zeel, people call you a troll because you ARE one. It may be impressive of you to claim otherwise, but it is so blatantly obvious. Everything you say is carefully planned in order to ****** someone off, your arguments are absolutely nothing but ad hominem attacks on others and assertions you could never prove.

The only point you've ever made is a solid case for this forum to have an ignore feature so you can't derail every thread you pipe up in.

I have to agree. I was bitterly disappointed by the multiplayer announcement, and am still bitterly disappointed, but Zeel is NOT helping the anit-MP side at all.

Same here. But I am not a Troll. I may be being biased and slightly rude but I'm not trolling. 
I like the Co-Op but don't think it will go anywhere. 

Savber100 wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...
Now RPG forums are miostly the realm of whining, butt hurt fanboys and immature gamers b*tching on a forumover petty, optional features because they don't have a life while assuming THEY know everything about the current industry as they eat cheetos and pretend to be "experts" in what they talk about. These people are unforyunately more common than smart, mature people who play games.

Fix'd 

So how do you like MY generalization of RPG players? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/happy.png[/smilie]

Unfortuanely true as seen with certain people. Then again, most Battlefield gamers like CAPSLOCK FURY somewhat agree with my description. That's why they police the servers. 

[Prince Zeel]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Zeel, you really need to calm the f*ck down. You come off as a raging brat that didn't get their way. Just because a feature in a game is included that you don't like doesn't excuse you acting like a baby. Here is your simple answer: You don't like the way they took ME3? Don't buy it, gtfo of the forums, and go play some other game.

I can't wait till you play ME3 and enjoy it and then make yourself look like a bigger moron.

Bull.


I've been on this forum too long to think that being a "raging" brat is not allowed here. Go read 2 weeks prior, when people were STILL ****ing about s/s relationships.


I guess everyone is allowed to **** about everything except MP. Be lucky I'm not making a buttload of topics every minute DEMANDING they change it. (which is what they were doing)