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[Reznore57]

This looks interesting!

Isabella seems to be in a very bad position , I wonder how can Alistair and Varric do anything about it.
Isabella stole the tome etc , I'm not sure any kind of diplomacy could save her from the Qun.

And Sten , who's not Sten anymore!
Seems like qunari know about Aurelian , I always like to see them interacting with mages ...(well if it's more complicated that " it's a mage , he needs an axe in his face.")
I'm very curious about the qun and their history about magic .

[Ozzy]

Woah, my Hawke would be pissed to see the state of Isabela.

[Ilidan_DA]

Dragon Age: Those Who Speak #2 - teaser

And New Comic incoming: http://hardinartstud.../blog-post.html

[Reznore57]

I just read the new issue and ...
Some interesting stuff , like the tome of koslun mentionning old gods.
Most of this issue is about Isabella , we learn some new things , surprising things and not really good ...
It kind of give a darker side to Isabella , but every things get a bit darker , even the qunari are like a bunch of sadist full of empathy.

The only problem I have is well , the plot isn't moving forward .We still don't know what the hell is going on ...

Since the beginning of the adventure , we met another witch of the wilds , they rise dragons but it's still a big blur.
Now we're in Tevinter ,still no Marric in sign ( and i'm beginning to forget that the plan was just to find him now...) ,Aurelian made a "cameo" and vanish .
And finally The qunari are joining the party , with an obsession about Isabella that's bordeline wierd ,and Sten now Arishok who suffer also from duality "you're my friend so i'm going to be very clear and punch you in the face" kind of attitude...

And from what I understand "Those who speak" is not the end , another serie of comic should be released.

I liked the new issue , i really like qunari , but i'm beginning to fear things are getting all over the place .

[Ilidan_DA]

Dragon Age: Those Who Speak 2 now on sale!

https://digital.dark...se-who-speak-2/

[Sister Goldring]

Poor Isabella! I mean she's pretty contemptible really but what a mess.

Modifié par Sister Goldring, 26 septembre 2012 - 11:20 .

[whykikyouwhy]

Reznore57 wrote...
The only problem I have is well , the plot isn't moving forward .We still don't know what the hell is going on ...

I think the intent of the comics may have been two fold - to deliver some lore with Maric as the foremost plot point (and Alistair's search for answers), but also to tell a little bit of backstory for the main characters. The next series, "Until We Sleep," might provide some details about Varric, if the pattern holds.

As for the Qunari being obsessed with Isabela, Varric even mentions something along the lines of "The Qunari never forget" (paraphrasing). They seek to deliver justice in their own way.

I think the seemingly scattered threads of the overall story will all come together in the end. 

[Reznore57]

I guess ,Whykikyouwhy .

Thing is we just learn that Those who Speak isn't the end of the adventure .It's a 3 issue arc , (i think) and even if it delivers some interesting informations , I don't know ...

I feel a bit like Alistair "WTF is going on with crazy dragons , bloodlines and Marric!"
I mean the witch of the wilds is cryptic about all that , then Sten is cryptic about it too.
Both are saying it's important , but not important enough to talk about it.
/cry.

Maybe I'm too impatient .^^

[R2s Muse]

So can anyone confirm for me... it basically still told us nothing about the Old Gods, except that they were mentioned in the Tome of Koslun, and reiterated that they gave magic to the Tevinter magisters? I guess it also added that they did blood sacrifices for it, but we probably all figured it had something to do with blood.

Ah, indeed, dragon teasers are driving me crazy. Nice to hear Izzy's backstory... which was different than I expected, with all that mom stuff, but... I am also anxious about Maric et al.

[Reznore57]

Pretty much this ,R2sMuse.

There's a sentence I have trouble to understand "The old gods were like unto dragons as the first human kings were like unto ordinary man."
I'm not familiar with the expression "to be like unto." ...I look it up on the net but it's not really clear.

Does it mean the old gods were just dragons ?

From what i understand Aurelian titus wants to wake some dragon (like yavanah) or maybe wake an untainted old god (like Morrigan ).

It's surprising the Qunari are aware of this , few years ago it seems they knew little about Blights and now Sten/Arishok seems to know more than he's willing to tell.

[R2s Muse]

Reznore57, I think "like unto" is that they're making a comparison, old gods compared to dragons is like first human kings compared to ordinary man. I am not quite sure what the comparison is supposed to mean either, tho. The first human kings weren't superheroes or anything, right? Just regular guys with good leadership skills, maybe a little more ruthless?? So, it is suggesting that the old gods were just dragon kings, but still dragons nonetheless??

I guess I'm getting into spoiler territory again... probably need to start a thread on the spoiler forum.

[Blacklash93]

I'm glad the Qunari are being tied more into Thedas, by the sound of it.

In the face of Old Gods, mythical cities, hidden realms, an upcoming magical war that may relate to all of the former, the Qunari have just been kind of there. It's like "Why should I care about this when all the cool stuff is happening over here?". A big and interesting part of Dragon Age have been about wondering how all these seperate elements fit together in the mysterious past of Thedas.

"The old gods were like unto dragons as the first human kings were like unto ordinary man."

Well you have to consider what has been said about ancient Thedas in the previous comic and in the games. About everyone having magic and other things like that. The power Alistair apparently has locked within his blood just being a descendent of what is probably countless generations down from these first kings, they could have been very powerful with immense magic no one is capable in modern Thedas.

No matter what though they're probably dragons themselves, albeit very powerful ones. But as TSG told us dragons aren't ordinary creatures under their savage behavior. In fact I'd say there have been a few subtle hints in the games as to that.

[R2s Muse]

Indeed, I'd be very surprised if the Old Gods were "just" dragons. I guess I'm still just baffled at what/who the first human kings were supposed to be. Sten says that like we're supposed to know it already, so I guess it's safe to assume he's referring to the whole Calenhad is a special snowflake idea?

[KingRoxas]

Excellent second part of the comic, special thanks to David & Alexander.  (Continue like this!)
Oh, and does what  happens to Isabela still occur if Alistair is dead and/or Isabela is with Hawke(Rival)?  or maybe she gets rescued before the ritual is completed... 

Hope that Rasaan is going to make an appearance in Dragon Age 3. Would like to kill her myself  (And because she is an intriguing character ).

Modifié par Kingroxas, 26 septembre 2012 - 06:49 .

[Philosophaster]

Kingroxas wrote...

Excellent second part of the comic, special thanks to David & Alexander.  (Continue like this!)
Oh, and does what  happens to Isabela still occur if Alistair is dead or Isabela is with Hawke(Rival)?  or maybe she gets saved before the ritual is complete... 

From what I gather, the events of the comics are canon. That is to say that Alistair, Varric, and Isabela are involved in the story regardless of game decisions. Any world and character background revealed is also canon as it is free from game decision influence (Isabela's past with slaves and her relationship with her mother). In what state of mind these characters appear, however, is not canon. The comics can't be expected to reflect game decisions such as unhardened Alistair versus hardened Alistair, rivalry versus friendship influence, or LI status. That being said, the comics are very difficult to imagine working without a living Alistair or Isabela's new ship. Does Isabela eventually get a ship regardless of a Hawke rivalry? It wouls certainly make for a lot longer travel time between Antiva, Tevinter, and so on.

[KingRoxas]

inconsiderate rick wrote...
From what I gather, the events of the comics are canon. That is to say that Alistair, Varric, and Isabela are involved in the story regardless of game decisions. Any world and character background revealed is also canon as it is free from game decision influence (Isabela's past with slaves and her relationship with her mother). In what state of mind these characters appear, however, is not canon. The comics can't be expected to reflect game decisions such as unhardened Alistair versus hardened Alistair, rivalry versus friendship influence, or LI status. That being said, the comics are very difficult to imagine working without a living Alistair or Isabela's new ship. Does Isabela eventually get a ship regardless of a Hawke rivalry? It wouls certainly make for a lot longer travel time between Antiva, Tevinter, and so on.

I think that "None-game" Dragon Age products follow "bioware set canon", to learn more of the world and characters. Then the player have thier own "canon" that will modify these events. (Example like Alistair being dead, then maybe some else confronted Aurelian Titus or maybe he never got confronted by anyone.) 
The expanded media is just to learn more of the Dragon Age world and to set up future plots. (What i would think )

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That being said, yes Isabela can get a ship whether she is Friend or Rival. What she thinks about it is a another story, when my Hawke rejected Castillons Deal she told me that she would try to become a better person/ that Hawke made her want to change. (And this happened because my Hawke rival romanced here.) 

Modifié par Kingroxas, 26 septembre 2012 - 07:18 .

[R2s Muse]

They've said time and again that the comics aren't canon, they're a "what if."

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if things that are revealed about the world outside the games, such as Isabela's backstory are true no matter what.

[Philosophaster]

Kingroxas wrote...

I think that "None-game" Dragon Age products follow bioware set "canon", to learn more of the world and characters. Then the player have thier own "canon" that will modify these events. (Example like Alistair being dead, then maybe some else confronted Aurelian Titus or maybe he never got confronted by anyone.) 
The expanded media is just to learn more of the Dragon Age world and to set up future plots. (What i would think )
That being said, yes Isabela can get a ship whether she is Friend or Rival. What she thinks about it is a another story, when my Hawke rejected Castillons Deal she told me that she would try to become a better person. (And this happened because my Hawke rival romanced here.) 

I agree with you on this. In fact, you expressed my thoughts in a much more concise manner, so kudos for that.
As an aside: great avatar

Modifié par inconsiderate rick, 26 septembre 2012 - 07:19 .

[KingRoxas]

R2s Muse wrote...

They've said time and again that the comics aren't canon, they're a "what if."

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if things that are revealed about the world outside the games, such as Isabela's backstory are true no matter what.

I would not say that there is a "CANON!" but 1 "canon" that is only used in expanded Dragon Age Products to expand the DA universe and a 2nd that is every players own. Player canon override Biowares. Player > Bioware

Modifié par Kingroxas, 26 septembre 2012 - 07:24 .

[KingRoxas]

inconsiderate rick wrote...
I agree with you on this. In fact, you expressed my thoughts in a much more concise manner, so kudos for that.
As an aside: great avatar

Thank You. I often feel like i have strong problem trying to express myself in written form, so it meant a lot. 

Modifié par Kingroxas, 26 septembre 2012 - 07:34 .

[R2s Muse]

Kingroxas wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

They've said time and again that the comics aren't canon, they're a "what if."

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if things that are revealed about the world outside the games, such as Isabela's backstory are true no matter what.

I would not say that there is a "CANON!" but 1 "canon" that is only used in expanded Dragon Age Products to expand the DA universe and a 2nd that is every players own. Player canon override Biowares. Player > Bioware

Good point. "Canon" is such a loaded term anyway.

[Ilidan_DA]

Dragon Age: Those Who Speak #3 - Promotional Pages!

Modifié par Wiedzmin182009, 03 novembre 2012 - 08:55 .

[Reznore57]

Lol , Varric !
The basalit-an lie is quite funny .
Wonder how it will end with the qunari.
And I do hope Varric will get Bianca back .

[Ilidan_DA]

"The last episode of Dragon Age: Those Who Speak series was released  to the stores. Alistair with his friends is still on Seheron but he cannot  wait any longer, he must to know what happened to his father. Will he succeed?
What about Isabela and Raasan? If you are looking for answers to these questions, the third installment of the comic is for you. You can find the digital version here, and hard copy here".

From

Modifié par Wiedzmin182009, 14 novembre 2012 - 06:05 .

[thats1evildude]

Kick his ass, Alistair!

Kick her ass, Isabela!

Modifié par thats1evildude, 14 novembre 2012 - 07:04 .