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[ShepardOsiris]

  Alright, this requires a little explaining, so please bare with me.  Some of you may remember, that a few months back, and a couple weeks BEFORE the Dead Reaper and Proto SR-2 lithographs where announced or acknowledged to exist, I had damage to my Special Edition Team Lithograph and needed to open up a support case, in doing so, while using the search feature to find my problematic item, I stumbled upon them being listed in Treehouse's system.  I of course scooped this info and provided it to all you wonderful people. 

  Well, sadly, a recent order has provided me with yet another need to open a support case, and in searching this time, to my suprise, a listing exists in Treehouse's system for a "Mass Effect M-8 Avenger Replica".  

  To add further interesting fuel to the fire, last year, Harrison Krix or better known as Volpin Props did a beautiful full size replica of the M8 Avenger.  volpinprops.blogspot.com/2010/08/mass-effect-m8-avenger-assault-rifle.html
12-18 months is right in the ballpark for what it would take to take a prototype design through the necessary stages for a production run.  So I'm left wondering and hoping that potentially a similar quality replica has been produced in numbers for sale, but of course, this could just be a listing for a mini replica or something, so I don't want to get anyone's hopes up.  

  Krix also did the highly buzzed about, ME 3 CE N7 assault rifle replica for E3 this year.  Seen here volpinprops.blogspot.com/2011/07/n7-rifle-mass-effect-3.html   I would far prefer this model, but if an avenger is being made, this one could have a chance of production too. 

   Mostly just food for thought right now, but with a listing in the system, it would seem very likely something of some sort is in the works for a relatively soon announcement.  Please Ms Domino, give us some information on this as soon as possible. 

Modifié par ShepardOsiris, 18 octobre 2011 - 07:14 .

[Kyle]

I believe the replica is being made by a company called Project Triforce, they have a listing for the prop on there site, but no images yet. They also made the Lancer and Snub Pistol from Gears of War. I don't own them, but I hear that their quality is fantastic, and that explains the high asking price. It could be the one you linked to, but it would just seem weird that there would be two different companies selling there own replica of the same gun.

Now that I think of it, maybe it will be a cheaper (in price, and maybe materiel type) version, because NECA also made a replica Lancer from gears, and sold it for less, because it was plastic, not metal.

Okay, I don't know what to think anymore.

[ShepardOsiris]

You may very well be right, the Triforce replica just completely slipped my mind for some reason.  To further support that possibility, Triforce seems to do a Regular edition of almost all of thier projects, which usually consists of a production run of 500 pieces.  Then a special version of only 100 pieces.  Since they only have the regular Avenger up on thier site, perhaps that Special version is to be a Biowarestore exclusive.  Likely to be carrying a price tag of upwards of $800 though with shipping, so not for everyone.  All nothing more than wild guesses until something is confirmed, but still, the possibilities are interesting. 
   Some pictures of the Triforce prototype of the Avenger from Comic Con if anyone is interested. 

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  Also, the final production version will feature numerous LED lights and Triforce has said if they can figure out how to pull it off without compromising quality, the final version will feature a retractable stock.  

  Lots of possiblities, I hope some official clarifications and information about what they are going to be offering are coming from Treehouse sooner rather than later. 

[Kyle]

I am interested in seeing how it turns out, it looks like there work is of the highest quality. The prototype images look awesome.

[ShepardOsiris]

Forget  what was here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!          Do it!

Modifié par ShepardOsiris, 18 octobre 2011 - 07:15 .

[NamiraWilhelm]

holy crap on a ******!

Although, ouch, hope it comes out near pay day!

[CDRSkyShepard]

That's it, I'm getting a job.

[TheRageWithin]

I've been excited about the possibility of this ever since I saw the custom one the original fan created. I'd be a certain buyer should it ever surface, my only concern is what I may be asked to pay for international shipping.

[Trapper_920]

This sounds probable but I don't know of what sort of quality. I know @CaseyHudson tweeted something not to long ago about what we would want for a full sized replica.

Personally I'm not much for a rifle replica and would prefer a handgun replica. That does not mean I would not consider this...

[CDRSkyShepard]

The M-8 isn't a weapon I'd buy for that price, I just don't like its aesthetics that much. If one of the sniper rifles or pistols came out, I'd definitely go for those. Hopefully they make more models!

[Trapper_920]

Ah I did not see the $800 before. I defiantly will not buy a M-8 for that. I have mixed feeling about the sniper rifles but they do look good. I'd like to see the M-5 Phalanx though for sure. I'll start a funds pool in case they make that one. =D

Edit: I wouldn't mind the M-9 Tempest or M-12 Locust either.

Modifié par Trapper_920, 18 octobre 2011 - 11:09 .

[CDRSkyShepard]

I thought it was $650? But yeah, in any case. The Tempest or Locust would be fun, but I'd rather see the M-3/M-5 or M-97 first. Lol. It looks awesome, though.

[ShepardOsiris]

  The $800 number I threw out there, was an estimate for what a 100 piece edition might cost with s+h included.  Triforce only has a standard edition (500 pieces made) M-8 listed, and priced at $650, however keep in mind, that shipping will be high on an item like this, it's odd sized, it's heavy at around 20lbs, and it requires special care because it is a mostly resin compound replica after all. Domestic shipping will be likely 35-50 bucks or more depending on speed, and I would not be suprised to see a triple digit number for international rates.

  It's not my first choice for weapons to produce either, I for instance never play a soldier, and rarely play a class that uses Assault Rifles as a weapon skill, and on the rare occasion that I do, I far and away prefer the Mattock in ME 2 and obviously the Spectre VII and X weaponry in ME 1. So to me, in my Mass Effect, the Avenger barely even exists. It's tough in a series that has so much weapon variety to pick something representative, and with visible weapon mods coming to ME 3, that only makes it worse.

  That said, the M-8 Avenger really is the only choice if you are going to do a replica, it's the only single weapon in ME that has a level of familiarity to it for the bulk of people. In the ME 1 store display Shepard carried the M8's predecessor, the M7 across his hands, same for the Hyperchild Statue, the Shepard Action figure from DC direct is equipped with an M-8 Avenger, and in the few cutscenes in ME 2 that show Shepard with a default weapon instead of whatever weapon you are actually using in-game, it's you guessed it, an M8 Avenger.

It's clear this is the one weapon that Bioware is trying to ram down our throats as the iconic model. It's just too bad it's not that great of a weapon, like the Lancer is for Gears of War, where it's imagery is iconic, and frankly it's throughout the trilogy always one of the best all around weapons to use in the games. I kind of doubt we will see any more replica's of this quality for ME because of that lack of universal popularity but one can hope.

Modifié par ShepardOsiris, 19 octobre 2011 - 11:53 .

[Trapper_920]

I don't entirely agree with your shipping assessment. I do agree it will be more but less than 40, more likely 10-35 unless shipped international. You can order heavy hazardous materials that ship for 15-20 USD, (a.k.a. ammunition). I've also had boxes ship that could have fit a Berret 50 cal rifle that ship for less than 15.

So if it ships for 35-50 it better have some special shipping material and great shipping insurance.

[CDRSkyShepard]

The site said that weight won't be a factor in the shipping assessment. (But a 20 pound gun? GEEZ. My IRL M-16 doesn't weigh half that when loaded with 50 rounds!) It's just a big, awkward package, so you might see a crazy shipping price for that. Ammo at least ships in a fairly easy-to-handle box.

I definitely wouldn't mind tacking on some shipping insurance for that bad boy if I got it.

You're right, Osiris, it is the most commonly-recognized gun from the game by far. The M-3 and Shuriken are also quite well-known, since Thane is holding the Shuriken in the poster art for ME2. I play as an Infiltrator most often, and I always train with the AR on the Collector Ship mission...but, by the time I get the ability to use it, I've already received several upgrades of that weapon. Depending on my purpose, I usually use the Mattock or the Vindicator (since I have barely any biotic-barrier stripping ability, that's all I use the Vindicator for when I carry it). Between the M-5 and the M-97, I don't really need the stopping power of the Mattock, but it's great even though it's ugly as sin. It would be nice to see them expand the ME line, especially if ME3 becomes a big seller...heck, the franchise is just as well recognized to most people I talk to just as much as Gears or even Halo.

Do we know what the difference is going to be on the 100 run vs. the 500 run?

[Trapper_920]

My AR-15 (looks like a M-16 for those that need to know) is about 12 pounds no ammo. Is that thing solid pewter or something?

[CDRSkyShepard]

Mine is an AR-15 as well, just an M-16 type not an M-4 type. She weighs about 8 pounds unloaded, because she has a fluted bore. I can't say for certain if she's forged from a lighter alloy, but it's probably one of the most solid guns I've ever held. I was afraid this one would be like 15 pounds empty when I ordered it and was pleasantly surprised. It will probably weigh more like yours when I put all the junk on it like scope, laser sight, and stuff that I want to put on it. Bushmaster FTW.

[ShepardOsiris]

Trapper, I'm simply trying to let people who may not normally buy things like this know, that this is going to be expensive to have shipped, so they are not shocked to find out it's a sizable addition to cost. Anyone that buys this kind of stuff often, knows shipping for these kinds of items can get out of control in a hurry, so I'm guessing you don't buy items like this often. I do, I also own and operate a shop that buys and sells items like this as part of it's business, I am very confident in my shipping estimates. If anything, I'm on the low end. 

I used the Triforce lancer as my basis for the estimate, which is very similar in size and weight to the Avenger. Keep in mind, the Avenger is listed by Triforce right on the product page, as an oversized item, and that it will ship by dimensional weight calculations, not by actual product weight. If you do not know what that is, I won't bore you with the equations, but it takes box dimensions into account and uses a density formula to calculate the weight the carrier will consider shipping weight. 

  This is essentially a system that UPS etc came up with to get more postage revenue out of odd shaped and large packages, and It ends up meaning the charged shipping weight by UPS, FedEx, etc is much higher than actual weight, making it more expensive to ship. Take a quick peak at UPS or eqivalent and see what a 35 pound (the lancer's dimensional shipping weight) package costs to ship via just standard ground. It's a lot.

Sure businesses have better rates, but packaging costs have to be factored in, and premium packaging materials are a must for an item like this. Standard shipping rates usually only cover items of $100 or less of value as well. So considering the value of this, Triforce or whoever is shipping it out may take out an extra insurance policy on it and of course that get's relayed to the customer. Believe me, you will be extremely lucky if standard shipping is 30 dollars or less on this, expedited of any kind and it's over $50 and up with ease 2-day may push past $75. International, you may not want to know.

I'm sorry, but your crazy, and in for a heck of a shock if you think the shipping cost range will start anywhere near $10 on this. If Treehouse does carry the Avenger, just for a hint, I just recently bought the CIC messenger bag, that was all I bought in that order, and I just chose standard domestic shipping. That bag is packaged flat and weighs nothing and they charged me $11 for standard shipping. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Modifié par ShepardOsiris, 19 octobre 2011 - 08:28 .

[vometia]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

The site said that weight won't be a factor in the shipping assessment. (But a 20 pound gun? GEEZ. My IRL M-16 doesn't weigh half that when loaded with 50 rounds!)

I once got lumbered with lugging someone's Bren around which weighs a bit more than that.  I think my arm had stretched by a couple of inches by the time I had a chance to put it down.

[Trapper_920]

vometia wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

The site said that weight won't be a factor in the shipping assessment. (But a 20 pound gun? GEEZ. My IRL M-16 doesn't weigh half that when loaded with 50 rounds!)

I once got lumbered with lugging someone's Bren around which weighs a bit more than that.  I think my arm had stretched by a couple of inches by the time I had a chance to put it down.

Add about 10 pounds to that and you have what I think used to be considered an Anti-Tank rifle. LOL Now its really just an extream long range sniper rifle.

[Bitharion]

The M-8 is up for pre-sale at the BioWare store now biowarestore.com/accessories/m8-avenger-assault-rifle-replica
Looks like the international (at least to Sweden) shipping will be 150$ and domestic (US) shipping 60$.

Modifié par Bitharion, 20 octobre 2011 - 01:31 .

[Nameless one7]

Are lithographs coming out this month? I can't afford the M-8 and the lithographs.

[ShepardOsiris]

Ah, finally they come clean about it. I told you the shipping would be high, believe me now? I'm actually pleasantly surpised that it's only $60 for two day. Now it's time to settle in for the long wait for it to arrive. Triforce is also often very tardy with the estimates they give for release, so if this doesn't come out until April, May, or even later, don't be too surprised.

[Nameless one7]

With tax and shipping this thing is monstrously expensive.

[munnz]

Is absoultley guttered.
Rang Customs and after a long conversation. They say I cannot import the M-8 Avenger..

Bummer .. Have to look forward to other ME release's instead.