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[aiDvEoN]

Saphra Deden wrote...
The best of intentions for her people, yes. It's admirable. She chides humanity for missing its opportunity to take part in the glory and share in the spoils. Pity Shepard wasn't smart enough to pick her side.

Yeah, because its got 'doomed to get her people killed' written all over it.  They failed to reprogram the geth before, and regarding them as nothing more than machines helped get them into this mess in the first place.  If she doesn't manage to grab hold of the collective first time, straight off, then the geth will finish the job.

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.  Except that the quarian people won't survive a repeat performance.

[aiDvEoN]

Saphra Deden wrote...
Oh I know, but there is no rational basis. This is just purely the writers wanting to send a certain message. After all, these are the same writers who continually insist on letting pro-geth characters get the last word and in never letting Shepard agree with the anti-geth characters. Shepard can only ever condemn the quarians' actions, never support them.

The writers have an agenda, but I don't care.

I disagree with the first comment, but I'm glad I'm not the only one frustrated by the fact that I can't agree with the quarians on attempting the shutdown.

[aiDvEoN]

Rewrote them. Legion favoured rewrite by a narrow majority, and it offered the prospect of a more complete solution to the Heretic issue. Also seemed to be more in line with the Geth's admittedly blue and orange morality.

[aiDvEoN]

Saphra Deden wrote...
Now why would you do just a thing? You just said that rewriting the geth was a death sentence for the quarians. You therefore imply it can't be done. However you know this isn't true because you saw that the Heretics were quite capable of doing the same to the Orthodox geth. In fact, you were so sure of their success you turned the weapon on them and used it to make the Orthodox geth stronger.

Therefore you know for a fact that it can be done and if the Heretics could do it then so could the quarians.

This isn't even bringing up Overlord and its successes.

The Heretic Virus was, to my mind, sui generis.  It was built around a piece of technology provided by the Reapers, beings technologically centuries, if not further, ahead of anything else in the galaxy.  I don't think Daro'Xen can succeed, is blinded by the same hubris that led to the constant upgrading and development of the geth, and the price of failure will be the death of her people.

And Overlord?  Success?  <stifles laughter> You mean the project that was built around a one in a million savant who proved to be incapable of handling the sensory input, went mad and killed the entire project team before nearly unleashing the  robot apocalypse on the galaxy?  Cerberus obviously has very different definitions of success and failure.

[aiDvEoN]

Saphra Deden wrote...
The virus was never said or implied to be Reaper related at all. The only piece of Reaper technology linked to it was basically a really secure strong-box to keep anyone else from tampering with it until it was ready. Legion went to the Derelict Reaper to learn how to open up the strong box, not to learn anything about the virus.

Who's making stuff up?  The virus and data core was provided by Nazara/Sovereign

[Dean_the_Young]

No, only the data core to store it.

Think about it. If Sovereign gave the Virus to the Heretics... why did they wait two years after its death to prepare to deploy it? Why not use it then?

[Iron Star]

Personally I am playing with the idea of wiping out the quarians. I'll probably unite both the geth and quarians, but I know I'll never sacrifice the geth.

[sorentoft]

If it came to a choice between Quarians and Geth I would probably pick the Quarians as Shepard. They have the lowest risk of becoming of a future threat to humanity. The Dyson Sphere of the Geth is a wildcard that could create an A.I. controlled galaxy.

[mauro2222]

sorentoft wrote...
The Dyson Sphere of the Geth is a wildcard that could create an A.I. controlled galaxy.

Helios speaks!

Modifié par mauro2222, 17 octobre 2011 - 07:32 .

[mauro2222]

Anyway, Daro'Xen is in love of power.

[HK01]

Well, if I have to pick, the Geth will be the ones to live on, not the Quarians. Ultimately, they're more useful to the war effort against the Reapers simply because they can potentially build up a huge war machine in a relatively short time since they don't need to "raise" an army, they just build it, and have more to offer the galaxy. The Quarians are also hell-bent on going to war with the Geth and don't see that the loss of their home-world was their own damn fault. The Geth, on the other hand, are peaceful.

Edit: And on the topic of the reprogramming: Reprogramming the Geth to be mindless slaves again would be wrong (not to mention prone to causing a disaster, surely the Geth would not just let the Quarians go so easily again when they have attempted to re-enslave them. Also, it took a hyper-advanced machine to reprogram them and even then only a part of the Geth were successfully rewritten). The difference with rewriting the Heretics is that their views are a result of Sovereign's meddling with them. It's just like curing a virus that causes them to malfunction. At least that was my reasoning.

Modifié par HK01, 17 octobre 2011 - 07:42 .

[Barquiel]

I'd like to be neutral, let them fight it out with the quarians...but I suppose we need their fleets to fight against the reapers (certainly the first fleets I'd sacrifice). I really have no sympathy with either side.

The Geth's fate in ME3? In order of preference...
- mediating peace between the geth and quarians
- Xen's plan
- let the geth wipe out the quarians

[mauro2222]

Saphra Deden wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Anyway, Daro'Xen is in love of power.

Mmm, yes, and I'm in love of her love of power.

And that is why she is crazy.

[nelly21]

aiDvEoN wrote...

nelly21 wrote...
The geth can be extremely dangerous given their ability to quickly replace their casualties and their advanced tech. Then there's the fact that they are machines and therefore highly susceptible to hacking by the Reapers.

If their creators, who have been trying for 300 years now, can't find a way to hack them, then I don't see how the Reapers are going to be able to do so without direct access to a Geth Hub.  Geth programs are self-correcting.

But the quarians, for all their acumen with electronics, are still organics. The Reapers have tech that is millions of years more advanced than anything the Quarians have.

[Robhuzz]

AquamanOS wrote...

That's assuming Daro'Xen can be trusted with them.

And that's assuming Daro'Xen can actually control the Geth. I'd say: Not likely. Rael'Zorah failed to develop a system to hack the Geth and I can't see Daro'Xen faring any better. Especially not in such a short time span.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 17 octobre 2011 - 08:51 .

[BatmanPWNS]

Don't know about others but I am going to kill as much Geths as possible.