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[snfonseka]

I have two words for OP......Samus Aran.

[TheJediSaint]

snfonseka wrote...

I have two words for OP......Samus Aran.

Well, before Team Ninja got their mitts on her.

[hurnt14]

I personally love games with a strong female lead and I mostly play female Hawke.

[Sylvanpyxie]

I'll play anything if it's good enough.

Graphics, male or female, customization, voice overs. Don't matter for turds. Give me a good game and i *will* play it.

[HK-90210]

If the game looked intriguing on its own merits, or was made by a company that I trusted and liked(i.e. Bioware), then yes, absolutely.

For instance, I would play Assassin's Creed III if it had a female portagonist. In fact, now I want that....

Point is, as long as the game is intriguing, or from an established source, gender of the portagonist is irrelevent.

[LittleDiegito]

The gender of the lead character or who ever is on the box isnt a big deal to me. Story, world setting, lore, those are the things I enjoy.

My canon Hawke and Shepard are both female

[uberdowzen]

krissyjf wrote...

If Hawke had been created/written and marketed as a female protagonist instead of a male one, would you still have bought and played Dragon Age2?

Would you buy any game of BioWare's (or any other developer) that featured a female protagonist? Or would you pass it by and simply mark the game as a "girl's game" and thus 'unworthy" of playing?

No, quite the opposite in fact, I want more game's with female protagonists who aren't sexualised. I'd happily play a Bioware game where you were forced to play as a female.

What I am put off by is games with a female protagonist (or just female characters) who are obviously put in their for guys to oggle. I honestly just find that kind of thing awkward (and I suspect I'm not alone).

[Hathur]

soccerchick wrote...

You mean, besides the back problems and one-week-a-month random bleeding? (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Yeah, I have no idea why guys would mind playing a female character in a game. You get your own boobs to stare at, can put them in lesbian situations, and, hopefully, make them smoking hot. What gives?

That wasn't creepy.... no sir ........ not at all. 

/backs away slowly

[MingWolf]

uberdowzen wrote...

No, quite the opposite in fact, I want more game's with female protagonists who aren't sexualised. I'd happily play a Bioware game where you were forced to play as a female.

What I am put off by is games with a female protagonist (or just female characters) who are obviously put in their for guys to oggle. I honestly just find that kind of thing awkward (and I suspect I'm not alone).

That. 

And so long as the female role as a protagonist fits and is sensible. 

[Foolsfolly]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

As long as the player has complete gender choice its a moot point as to who they show on the box. And for games without that choice, having a Female lead is almost never indicative of a more feminine viewpoint. Quite the opposite. Its about having a 'hot chick' on the box to help sell games. Sad but all too often true.

Regardless, packaging aside, Bioware's games are remarkably female friendly. And having female writers on the team helps quite a bit with that. So not seeing the issue really.

Cutlass Jack speaks the truth.

If there's a choice, like in BioWare games, the difference between Male and Female isn't much. In Origins and the first two Mass Effects the biggest difference is who you can romance.

If there's no choice then the playable character is nothing more than eye-candy. I saw trailers for Bayonetta and I didn't think, "Oh, that's a girly game." I looked at it and thought, "Oh, that's for adolescent boys."

[Sanguinerin]

If given the choice, I often choose a female protagonist. I also would love to see a game, or more games, with a female protagonist completely or predominately in the marketing area.

My reasons for playing the female, however, were usually because it was the only way to romance the male characters. In light of growing S/S romances, I've started making more male characters. (Unfortunately, I haven't been interested in DAII's version of Anders, Fenris, or Zevran... So I keep hoping DAIII has a male S/S romance that I like. Interestingly enough, my favorite romances seem to be a female Warden with Leliana and a female Hawke with Isabela. Anyway, that's all a bit tangential.)

Since BioWare games do offer the choice, it would be nice if both female and male characters had equal spotlight. I think Mass Effect has been pushing toward a more equal footing, with female Shepard gaining more ground. I always prefer the choice, but if given that choice, I don't see why male Hawke (or the male protagonist) deserves more advertising.

[Nauks]

If we're only talking about Bioware, I'd say it's basically a mute point.

They do both genders so well, and the generally broad scope of how they are
portrayed and interact, and I assume that most of their player base are
mature/tolerant/experimental/whatever enough not to give it too much
thought as long as the characters are solid.

Personally I'd love female protagonists on the covers of future Bioware games, both my canon Shepard and Hawke are female, having reverted from males during the first playthroughs.

Modifié par Nauks, 17 octobre 2011 - 05:33 .

[MozartsGhost]

krissyjf wrote...

Correct me if I am wrong, but don't most gamers- including male gamers- play a game for the storyline, the challenge of combat, and because the characters are rich and well-developed? So if the game is all of these things, and the protagonist just happens to be a female, why wouldn't you play it? Female gamers have had to do this for years. Most of the games I own have only male protagonists.

Gender matters very little to me when playing a game. I can understand, however, why a girl - or a guy - might get a little fed up of almost constantly being forced to play a male protagonist. I'm in the minority when it comes to rpg fans in that I think too much character customization can be a bad thing. There are far too many variables to feel like your character ever has a meaningful identity. For example, in DA:O an elven mage would get a few unique dialogue options during the game, but overall it's an almost identical experience to a human mage. If the game only had one origin story - an elven mage - there would be so much more backstory and unique feeling to your character than when there are six different origins. I get that customization and choice is one of the big draws to Bioware games - and rpg's in general - but I think that it leads to hollow characters with very little identity. They don't even have names, just the 'Hero of Ferelden'. it didn't matter so much in the days of <charname> but with full voice acting it gets annoying. The Witcher series of games shows that you don't have to be able to choose your character's race/name etc. to have an enjoyable rpg experience.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I agree with your assertion; I play games for an absorbing story and detailed, interesting characters. So if the protagonist were a female it would make no difference to me, it would even make for an interesting change of pace from the norm. I was actually extremely disappointed that Cassandra Pentaghast (the Chantry Seeker) was not a joinable NPC in DA2 as she seemed one of the most interesting characters in the game. If someone like her were to be the protagonist of DA3 I think i'd be a little more excited about purchasing it as, like I said, being a nameless hero gets a little old. What I'm less and less in favour of is the idea that we should be entitled to play exactly what we want rather than the character that the writers want to tell a story about. Of course the forums would explode in a shower of fury and hatred if Bioware were ever to release an rpg with a fixed character, but I'd be interested in seeing how that would work. Like i said it has been very successful with the Witcher.

[Asch Lavigne]

If only Mass Effect marketed FemShep instead.

[Zubie]

I don't care about gender. I just want quality.

[PsychoBlonde]

Hathur wrote...

I recall reading an article somewhere in the past year that one of the major publishers (EA or Activision, I forget) said that they found games with protagonists perform poorly / undersell. That would certainly explain why there's so incredibly few games at all featuring a female lead character.

Otherwise known as a self-fullfllling prophecy, because they don't put their A dev teams on these games, so games with female protagonists tend to be lower-budget games with fewer features, poorer writing, etc.  They could just as easily have said "games that aren't as good tend to perform poorly/undersell".

Dragon Age has a big female marketing presence: Captain Janew--I mean, Flemeth.

There's also a strong precedent for MMO's with some big jugs on the b--I mean, a female on the box, to do well.  And while I appreciate that the blood splot dragon is not everybody's idea of a sex icon, I actually really liked that box art.

I vote they put either  a football player or a racecar on the next game just to mess with everybody's heads.

[Yrkoon]

krissyjf wrote...

I have a question for all the male gamers out there:

If Hawke had been created/written and marketed as a female protagonist instead of a male one, would you still have bought and played Dragon Age2?

Yes.

Aside from romances, there's really nothing keeping me from  running through games with a female protagonist, except for maybe my  age-old-Habits (I typically play male protagonists by default) but again, that's nothing but a habit,  done only because the option is there.

And DA2 even takes care of the romance issues, allowing any gender to romance any LI.  That's a huge plus in my book, btw.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 17 octobre 2011 - 05:58 .

[Darkly Tranquil]

As long as the game has a good story and engaging characters I couldn't care less what gender the protagonist is. I am sufficiently comfortable with my own sexuality not to feel threatened or lessened in any way by playing as a female character.

[DrFumb1ezX]

Hathur wrote...

soccerchick wrote...

You mean, besides the back problems and one-week-a-month random bleeding? (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Yeah, I have no idea why guys would mind playing a female character in a game. You get your own boobs to stare at, can put them in lesbian situations, and, hopefully, make them smoking hot. What gives?

That wasn't creepy.... no sir ........ not at all. 

/backs away slowly

If it was creepy, then I've successfully stated the average male mind when it comes to sex. And women. I think.

But ok, the first part? Definitely creepy.

[Satyricon331]

I never played Lara Croft, but I bought Septerra Core recently from gog.

[Gemini1179]

I love strong women and strong female characters. Loved "Alien", "Terminator", etc. 80% of my ME and DA characters are female. I really would love to see a female take the lead in a marketing campaign. I have no issues with it.

Would be nice to have the female character not have the male animations though. Wonder what the reaction would be if the male characters had female animations?

[Rawgrim]

I usually play a male during my first playthrough. If I decide to replay a game, I go for female. Checking out if there is any difference. I don`t think there was any difference in DA2 though.

[igneous.sponge]

krissyjf wrote...

I have a question for all the male gamers out there:

If Hawke had been created/written and marketed as a female protagonist instead of a male one, would you still have bought and played Dragon Age2?

Definitely. We need more good female representation. Yay for female protagonists!

(Honestly, I'd be a lot happier getting a greater female presence—be it on the box, in-game, whatever—than male, given the gender imbalance we get most of the time. So, yes, I agree with you.)

[Firky]

April Ryan from The Longest Journey and Dreamfall.

I've never heard a male gamer say a bad word about her or those games.

[Dubya75]

If they had marketed DA2 with female Hawke but I knew I had the option of playing as Male Hawke, sure I would still have bought the game.
(I never play as female though, with the only exception being Tomb Raider)