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[DamnThoseDisplayNames]

Why most game developers, including BioWare, seem to develop games that are centered around male protagonists, or are written with the male version in mind.

Why do you care?
Most game developers are stupid mooks anyway, and games like that actually suck. Leave them with their overmusculated gorillas alone, and play good games. Games with cool female protagonists like Longest Journey, Syberia, Beyond Good and Evil, Zanzarah, Drakan, Portal, they're better games than CoD anyway.

the game box looks like yet another shooter aimred at hyperactive kids, so the lasses don't touch it

If a lass don't touch a box with "Fallout" logo on it, well, she sure not into RPG's anyway, eh?

It feels odd when I play a female protagonist in a WRPG. I'm used to playing them in JRPGs

Wait, what. I don't remember any JRPG with female protagonist. Maybe you can roll with one in one of Shin Megami Tensei series I was't able to play, but every game aside those?..

Modifié par DamnThoseDisplayNames, 18 octobre 2011 - 01:02 .

[Arken]

DamnThoseDisplayNames wrote...

It feels odd when I play a female protagonist in a WRPG. I'm used to playing them in JRPGs

Wait, what. I don't remember any JRPG with female protagonist. Maybe you can roll with one in one of Shin Megami Tensei series I was't able to play, but every game aside those?..

Final Fantasy X-2, Final Fantasy XIII, and Final Fantasy XIII-2. Those are just a few games from a single franchise.

[DamnThoseDisplayNames]

Final Fantasy X-2, Final Fantasy XIII, and Final Fantasy XIII-2.

Ah, those are a bit too "new" for me. Most I played (FFVI, VII, VIII, IX, Grandia, Breath of Fire, Chrono Trigger, Lunar, Suikoden, XenoGears) featured guy with a sword. There were female characters in party, but they were supporting cast. I think I rolled with female elf in Tales of Mana..

*chukle* But, uh, X-2? This game is like a big chunk of fanservice and I don't really see female gamers enjoying it..

[PrinceLionheart]

Depends, would there still be an option to play as a Male Character (like there is an option for females in reverse.)

[Amorl]

Ive been playing female lead games since I first busted up mother brain in 1986. I have no problem if they keep em comming.

[standardpack]

Out of the three Hawkes I have created I consider my female one my 'main', importing-wise. But admitingly that is because I don't feel as attached to hawke as I do to my warden, so I decided to have my main elven mage Warden male and import his story to my female warrior Hawke.

[dreadpiratesnugglecakes]

I would have no problems playing as a female protagonist, provided the writing was good. Most of my characters in the Bioware games are female. I'm not so much concerned with the plumbing as what is going on in the characters head or coming out of her mouth.
I didn't care for male or female Hawke in DA2 because I didn't care for the overall story. Hawke is an ineffective tool. Nothing he/she does matters that much. Otherwise, I have no problem with female protagonists. Just give me a good story to interact with and I'm happy.

[TEWR]

Arken wrote...

DamnThoseDisplayNames wrote...

It feels odd when I play a female protagonist in a WRPG. I'm used to playing them in JRPGs

Wait, what. I don't remember any JRPG with female protagonist. Maybe you can roll with one in one of Shin Megami Tensei series I was't able to play, but every game aside those?..

Final Fantasy X-2, Final Fantasy XIII, and Final Fantasy XIII-2. Those are just a few games from a single franchise.

I'd also add FFXII to that list sort of since Square Enix said that they didn't want any one character to be the main character and that they wanted them all to be the main characters.

[Mr.House]

I prefer female protagonists personally.

[TEWR]

Foolsfolly wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

As long as the player has complete gender choice its a moot point as to who they show on the box. And for games without that choice, having a Female lead is almost never indicative of a more feminine viewpoint. Quite the opposite. Its about having a 'hot chick' on the box to help sell games. Sad but all too often true.

Regardless, packaging aside, Bioware's games are remarkably female friendly. And having female writers on the team helps quite a bit with that. So not seeing the issue really.

Cutlass Jack speaks the truth.

If there's a choice, like in BioWare games, the difference between Male and Female isn't much. In Origins and the first two Mass Effects the biggest difference is who you can romance.

If there's no choice then the playable character is nothing more than eye-candy. I saw trailers for Bayonetta and I didn't think, "Oh, that's a girly game." I looked at it and thought, "Oh, that's for adolescent boys."

That's not always true. It's mostly true, but there are games that have had a female lead that weren't going for a "let's get some sexy chicks in here!" vibe.

American McGee's Alice and Alice: Madness Returns had Alice Liddel as the main protagonist and she wasn't eye-candy.


Phantom Brave  -- which is one of the best games I've ever played -- had a female protagonist that wasn't eye-candy thankfully, considering the protagonist was 10. Would've been way too creepy.... *shudders*

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 18 octobre 2011 - 04:22 .

[Eragondragonrider]

Beyond GOOD and EVIL great game Female is lead character.

[SoulRebel_1979]

Wait.....people can tell the difference between genders in JRPGs?

[tmp7704]

SoulRebel_1979 wrote...

Wait.....people can tell the difference between genders in JRPGs?

Just like they can tell the difference between Isabela and males, yes.

[TEWR]

SoulRebel_1979 wrote...

Wait.....people can tell the difference between genders in JRPGs?

Ha.











anyone who truly does think all characters in JRPGs look the same gender is deluding themselves.

Not saying you truly think that. I get the distinct impression you're doing tongue-in-cheek.

[DamnThoseDisplayNames]

SoulRebel_1979 wrote...

Wait.....people can tell the difference between genders in JRPGs?

Well bro, in before the 3D graphics hit the right level to actually be able to present characters who look like prostitutes from japanese mating-.. err meeting services, developers had to draw portraits and characters distinguishable from one another, and maybe even wearing clothes which made sense ( http://gamehall.uol....ssc/lunar42.jpg ). But then, something ( http://www.krassotka...-1209921625.jpg ) happened, and a new race of indeterminable creatures ( http://images.thekoa...asy-x-tidus.jpg ) was born to scare the **** out of us mortals.
That's the short story anyway..

Judging fromThe Ethereal Writer Redux info it got better it seems.
But I'm still freaked out.

Modifié par DamnThoseDisplayNames, 18 octobre 2011 - 04:51 .

[mesmerizedish]

tmp7704 wrote...

SoulRebel_1979 wrote...

Wait.....people can tell the difference between genders in JRPGs?

Just like they can tell the difference between Isabela and males, yes.

I giggled.

Also, what Filament said. However, when the default is as ridiculously gorgeous as Lady Hawke is, you need to milk that.

[TEWR]

ehhh that pic of Tidus is catching him at a derpy moment that would of course make someone wonder who he is.

There are other pics of him where he doesn't look like a female. Plus, you also have people like Auron the Supreme Badass of Badassery.

If anything, Tidus was made to look more Asian than female.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 18 octobre 2011 - 04:55 .

[Yuqi]

 I grew up with mostly every lead character being a male. However If Ihave the choice,I will pick female hands down. Nintendo realised there was a base of female fans in the pokemon series. Which is why, in the later series you have more 'cute' pokemon.

In regards to FFX-2  alot of girls liked it. Not me personally, but I know alot that did. Now on the flip-side you could argue some girls will play male protagonists and romance male protagonists for the 'yaoi factor'. 

In terms of  default design..Garret hawke was Fugly IMO. Marian is much better,and her voice is pleasent on the ears.

Consider Fable 3, that game makes alot more sense as a female. It's subtle but it's there.

Overall it's nice to have the option,  and sometimes the male protagonists are practicly female (Tidus comes to mind with his whinging)

[Zanallen]

DamnThoseDisplayNames wrote...

Well bro, in before the 3D graphics hit the right level to actually be able to present characters who look like prostitutes from japanese mating-.. err meeting services, developers had to draw portraits and characters distinguishable from one another, and maybe even wearing clothes which made sense ( http://gamehall.uol....ssc/lunar42.jpg ). But then, something ( http://www.krassotka...-1209921625.jpg ) happened, and a new race of indeterminable creatures ( http://images.thekoa...asy-x-tidus.jpg ) was born to scare the **** out of us mortals.
That's the short story anyway..

Judging fromThe Ethereal Writer Redux info it got better it seems.
But I'm still freaked out.

Should have used this picture:

Modifié par Zanallen, 18 octobre 2011 - 05:09 .

[TEWR]

I remember Resident Evil 4's Ada Wong. One of the best games I've played and one of the best female characters I've seen.

@Yuqi: Pokemon is one of the few games where I go out of my way to play a female character.

[DamnThoseDisplayNames]

Should have used this picture:

Ahahaha, I want to replay that stuff now. Just to see Jessica beatin crap out of that dude again.